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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Oh they have a platform, it's the platform of airing white grievances over a changing world. 

I mean.....that's really all it is, isn't it.  Every.  Single.  Fucking.  Thing.  Look at the "position," and ask "can I put this in the 'white grievances over a changing world' box over there?"  The answer is yes.  100% of the time, the answer is yes.

These fucking people.

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The big thing about this:

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BREAKING A CNN flash poll of those who watched tonight's State of the Union shows that: * 64% had a positive reaction to President Biden's speech. * 62% say Biden's policies will move us in the right direction vs. 42% before the speech.

is that they usually poll a bigger respondent of the President's party.  And that is really big news that Dems who are lukewarm on Biden jumped up that much on the views of his policies

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2 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I would love to see a similar chart of the subjects Dotard talks about in his next speech.  There will be big circles for "makes random noises," "talks about the bad job that president Obama is doing," and "misidentifying the person who introduces him, one or more of his children, and at least one foreign leader."

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I would love to see a similar chart of the subjects Dotard talks about in his next speech.  There will be big circles for "makes random noises," "talks about the bad job that president Obama is doing," and "misidentifying the person who introduces him, one or more of his children, and at least one foreign leader."

Himself and how great he is ...

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43 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

This asshole in particular raises my blood pressure.  His district SHOULD be competitive enough it at least sends someone somewhat moderate. 

You didn't look at the map, obviously. 

17 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Wait, didn't Anastasis say he barely talked about Israel/Hamas at all? Weird, by this metric it was his second largest point of focus.

13 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

split by race / wealth right?

We'll call it "race" and "rural."

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I would love to see a similar chart of the subjects Dotard talks about in his next speech.  There will be big circles for "makes random noises," "talks about the bad job that president Obama is doing," and "misidentifying the person who introduces him, one or more of his children, and at least one foreign leader."

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Does nobody do political porn parodies?  Because someone should do political porn parodies.  Because....I'm interested....

I mean, except the ones of Lauren Boebert.  Those wouldn't need to be parodies, they could just be documentaries.  Starring Boebert.  As herself.

Don't tell me you missed this masterpiece.

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21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I would love to see a similar chart of the subjects Dotard talks about in his next speech.  There will be big circles for "makes random noises," "talks about the bad job that president Obama is doing," and "misidentifying the person who introduces him, one or more of his children, and at least one foreign leader."

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

Finished the whole Katie Britt thing.  My reaction:

 

I'm watching this show now, it's already getting old in season two but the first few episodes were money.

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44 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

They named the girl Bennett? 

Bro they are suburban white people from Alabama. We should just be thankful it's not Bynnyttleigh.

38 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

split by race / wealth right?

Sometimes they pack a few sympatico demographics together. Looking at this map, 18 is pretty much Blacks and 29 is Latinos. But 38 is a mix of super rich old money whites and exurban aggy whites. 9 is mostly Black but with a sprinkling of both well off and working class whites. 7 is actually quite a mashup of rich whites, yuppie whites, Blacks, and (South) Asians.

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1 hour ago, Eastwood said:

Don’t forget Wharton. And Boling. And East Bernard. And (rural area filled with olds). 

Yep… but they do have pretty decent meat markets.

 

Pro tip, if you ever are headed to SW Houston from San Antonio, instead of taking I10 all the way in, head south on 71 in Columbus to 90 and then take that all the way to the spur (I forget which but google maps will tell you) to 59 b/f you hit Richmond / Rosenberg. 
I stop in East Bernard for summer sausage and avoid the traffic in Katy.

Win-win.

But politically I bet they suck.

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Honest question and wondering if this should be its own thread but when the cunt from Alabama was asking if you are better off now or 4 years ago what is your answer?  For me I am better off now and I feel the country is also.  I am curious who on Surly was doing great 4 years ago and now Biden has ruined their life or maybe vice versa.  Or maybe you are better off or worse and it has nothing to do with who is president.  

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4 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Yep… but they do have pretty decent meat markets.

 

Pro tip, if you ever are headed to SW Houston from San Antonio, instead of taking I10 all the way in, head south on 71 in Columbus to 90 and then take that all the way to the spur (I forget which but google maps will tell you) to 59 b/f you hit Richmond / Rosenberg. 
I stop in East Bernard for summer sausage and avoid the traffic in Katy.

Win-win.

But politically I bet they suck.

That's 100% my route from Austin when going to SW Houston.  It's better time-wise, and you get a stop for smoked meat products.  Perfect.

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11 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Honest question and wondering if this should be its own thread but when the cunt from Alabama was asking if you are better off now or 4 years ago what is your answer?  For me I am better off now and I feel the country is also.  I am curious who on Surly was doing great 4 years ago and now Biden has ruined their life or maybe vice versa.  Or maybe you are better off or worse and it has nothing to do with who is president.  

I've never been better than today. 

I recognize that there are many who are not doing well. These range from the people in their 20s (who truthfully never do well as a group) and those who have limited financial options, who also always struggle as a group.

Finally there are those who intentionally sabotage their own finances due to political beliefs. I guarantee that are a few in DT and the football forum who moved all of their retirement money to cash on Jan 21 2021.  And then subsequently missed out on major gains.

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16 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Or maybe you are better off or worse and it has nothing to do with who is president.  

I feel like I'm better off than I was four years ago for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with Joe Biden, and if I narrow in on just my financial situation, I'm not so sure he has much to do with that either.  By no means do I consider myself wealthy, but on the broader national scale, I'm in the top financial tier of Americans -- like many others on this message board -- and I don't think our situations are drastically impacted by one president or another.

I do believe we are better off as a country in terms of pure presidential leadership, and that has a lot of positive effects on a national and global scale.  But even then, Biden is still driving a train of crazy, and in the foreseeable future we (/he if he gets another four years) will still be saddled with the MAGA movement and its stronghold on American politics and discourse, so I'd say we're collectively only marginally better off than we were four years ago.  

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20 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Bro they are suburban white people from Alabama. We should just be thankful it's not Bynnyttleigh.

Sometimes they pack a few sympatico demographics together. Looking at this map, 18 is pretty much Blacks and 29 is Latinos. But 38 is a mix of super rich old money whites and exurban aggy whites. 9 is mostly Black but with a sprinkling of both well off and working class whites. 7 is actually quite a mashup of rich whites, yuppie whites, Blacks, and (South) Asians.

They re-drew 7 this cycle to make it more blue and to make Crawford’s district more red. Living in Montrose, my rep was previously Crawford and now it’s Fletcher.

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8 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I feel like I'm better off than I was four years ago for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with Joe Biden, and if I narrow in on just my financial situation, I'm not so sure he has much to do with that either.  By no means do I consider myself wealthy, but on the broader national scale, I'm in the top financial tier of Americans -- like many others on this message board -- and I don't think our situations are drastically impacted by one president or another.

I do believe we are better off as a country in terms of pure presidential leadership, and that has a lot of positive effects on a national and global scale.  But even then, Biden is still driving a train of crazy, and in the foreseeable future we (/he if he gets another four years) will still be saddled with the MAGA movement and its stronghold on American politics and discourse, so I'd say we're collectively only marginally better off than we were four years ago.  

You stole my post. 

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Better off yes and no. But the no reasons all relate to the Texas legislature and governor. Covid was a train wreck. Inflation was a bitch, but we are doing better. Everything else is better.

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18 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I feel like I'm better off than I was four years ago for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with Joe Biden, and if I narrow in on just my financial situation, I'm not so sure he has much to do with that either.  By no means do I consider myself wealthy, but on the broader national scale, I'm in the top financial tier of Americans -- like many others on this message board -- and I don't think our situations are drastically impacted by one president or another.

I do believe we are better off as a country in terms of pure presidential leadership, and that has a lot of positive effects on a national and global scale.  But even then, Biden is still driving a train of crazy, and in the foreseeable future we (/he if he gets another four years) will still be saddled with the MAGA movement and its stronghold on American politics and discourse, so I'd say we're collectively only marginally better off than we were four years ago.  

As a top lawyer with a focus in classified file and election fraud cases against former presidents, my business is booming under Joe Biden.

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When Trump loses a second time, the MAGA movement, just like their memories of high school, will be over and their success exaggerated. 

Also, I'd call point of order on the smoked meats since Prasek's is in Hillje before El Campo.

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I think typically a president doesn’t have much to do with our situations, but there’s no doubt in this situation Trump would have wreaked chaos in his second term.  The government functioning largely as intended, the climate and infrastructure bill, and general executive leadership I think this time around has made a difference. I think the Ukraine war and NATO expansion are fundamentally critical to our long term success. So this time around I see it a bit different. 

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7 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I feel the real contrast is in what we reasonably could have expected if Trump was president the last 3 years.  

  • He would have appointed another USSC Justice
  • We would have left NATO instead of building it even stronger
  • Putin would be done with Ukraine by now and probably starting in on the Baltic states
  • We would be closer to WWIII than we are now
  • We would still be 2 weeks away from an infrastructure bill and the effect would be that our landing would probably not be as gentle or we would be in recession

I think the last one is most important.  I have no faith in the economy recovery under Trump

Yeah but Oct 7 wouldn’t have happened bc Bibi would have asked if he could raze Gaza to the ground with US support and Trump would have given it to him

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8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I feel the real contrast is in what we reasonably could have expected if Trump was president the last 3 years.  

  • He would have appointed another USSC Justice
  • We would have left NATO instead of building it even stronger
  • Putin would be done with Ukraine by now and probably starting in on the Baltic states
  • We would be closer to WWIII than we are now
  • We would still be 2 weeks away from an infrastructure bill and the effect would be that our landing would probably not be as gentle or we would be in recession

I think the last one is most important.  I have no faith in the economy recovery under Trump

Very good points.

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

I'm better off than I was 4 years ago and while I could say it has nothing to do with Biden I can't honestly say it has nothing to do with Trump not being POTUS because who knows where we'd be with COVID or a million other things he would have continued to bungle.

But there are few scenarios where I wouldn't be fine aside from those where almost nobody is fine. I don't vote purely my self-interest which yes I recognize makes me an abnormal American voter. 

I’m just fine from a fucking mental health standpoint bc I can stop following American politics for days or weeks at a time and I won’t miss much 

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I guess I should have clarified that I'm abnormal in that I realize I'm not voting in my own interest. Plenty of nimrods vote against their best interests when they think they aren't (cough rural white poors cough).

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9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’m just fine from a fucking mental health standpoint bc I can stop following American politics for days or weeks at a time and I won’t miss much 

I spent the first two years of Biden detoxing from the doom scroll existential threat he presented. I ignored politics for that whole time.

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Question about the rebuttal. I assume this thing done live?

If so, why one earth do they not film it before to make sure it comes out properly? 

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