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19 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mrs @Brisketexan is a Presbyterian Minister, and I’ve met her. It would take a lot more than one pepper ball to slow her down.

 

Well, he can’t bitch about it because it was obviously Predestined….

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22 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mrs @Brisketexan is a Presbyterian Minister, and I’ve met her. It would take a lot more than one pepper ball to slow her down.

 

Yet this will get little to no airplay or indignation from any significant media outlet.

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29 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mrs @Brisketexan is a Presbyterian Minister, and I’ve met her. It would take a lot more than one pepper ball to slow her down.

 

A pepper ball would only piss her off.  Trust me.

And she has participated in several exercises like this.  And (1) you're damned right she wears her collar, because she is called to bear public witness, (2) they have extensive planning and training on how to deal with just this sort of thing.  In fact, at some events, they wear color-coded armbands to indicate where they should be in position in the protest, and who is willing to be arrested if necessary.

Honestly, the book on non-violent resistance is one of the only hopes we have.  Make MAGA shoot and beat members of the clergy, publicly.  AND, have a plan to make those images go worldwide and be amplified instantly (this is where "the resistance" is failing).

And ultimately -- and this is important, and hard to stomach, but true -- it's going to take US troops, or paramilitary forces (and that's exactly what ICE is) opening fire en masse against members of the public.  When there are images of a dozen dead Americans in the street, including a grandmother, a pastor, etc.....then you have a CHANCE to break through and break the nerve of the fascist-adjacent and apathetic people.

Of course, there's also a tipping point that we're going to face as well: when the US military is ordered to slaughter Americans in America....what do they do?  I am not optimistic about that.  I do not trust them to honor their oath, or I at least fear that those who would do so will have been removed from the equation, and craven bloodthirsty fascist-sympathizers will have taken their place.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

A pepper ball would only piss her off.  Trust me.

So tell us more about the times you've shot your wife with a pepper ball gun.  And if you have video, please share.

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Just now, South Austin said:

So tell us more about the times you've shot your wife with a pepper ball gun.  And if you have video, please share.

I still possess my testicles, so we know that has never happened.

However, she has slept in the same bed with me after I spent all day tailgating eating BBQ, tacos, chicken wings, and drinking gallons of cheap beer.  So I assume her tolerance of chemical attacks is off-the-charts.

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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A pepper ball would only piss her off.  Trust me.

And she has participated in several exercises like this.  And (1) you're damned right she wears her collar, because she is called to bear public witness, (2) they have extensive planning and training on how to deal with just this sort of thing.  In fact, at some events, they wear color-coded armbands to indicate where they should be in position in the protest, and who is willing to be arrested if necessary.

Honestly, the book on non-violent resistance is one of the only hopes we have.  Make MAGA shoot and beat members of the clergy, publicly.  AND, have a plan to make those images go worldwide and be amplified instantly (this is where "the resistance" is failing).

And ultimately -- and this is important, and hard to stomach, but true -- it's going to take US troops, or paramilitary forces (and that's exactly what ICE is) opening fire en masse against members of the public.  When there are images of a dozen dead Americans in the street, including a grandmother, a pastor, etc.....then you have a CHANCE to break through and break the nerve of the fascist-adjacent and apathetic people.

Of course, there's also a tipping point that we're going to face as well: when the US military is ordered to slaughter Americans in America....what do they do?  I am not optimistic about that.  I do not trust them to honor their oath, or I at least fear that those who would do so will have been removed from the equation, and craven bloodthirsty fascist-sympathizers will have taken their place.

Our best realistic way out of this long term looks something like ICE/cops firing on peaceful protestors, leading to a huge public backlash, leading to an overwhelming defeat of the GOP in 2028. Chances are, they'll refuse to concede and claim it was rigged, but in that case the military likely refuses to go along with it (same as they refused in early 2021). Then we'd need a unified Democratic government committed to punishing the GOP and its enablers outside of government to wield the full force of the state against them as well as to seriously reforming SCOTUS. 

If Trump can get the military to shoot protestors, that's when shit gets real dark. If the military itself becomes embroiled directly in violence against civilians and generals start worrying about being held accountable if Democrats retake power, that's where things will get real ugly. 

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I still possess my testicles, so we know that has never happened.

However, she has slept in the same bed with me after I spent all day tailgating eating BBQ, tacos, chicken wings, and drinking gallons of cheap beer.  So I assume her tolerance of chemical attacks is off-the-charts.

White girl removes gas mask in the sun ...

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Radical right conservatives are still obsessed with Obama for some dumbass reason

 

"Obama being black" isn't a dumbass reason.

I mean, it's a shitty, evil, racist reason.  But....it's a reason.  

Wait...it's also a dumbass reason.  My bad.

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30 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Honestly, the book on non-violent resistance is one of the only hopes we have.  Make MAGA shoot and beat members of the clergy, publicly.  AND, have a plan to make those images go worldwide and be amplified instantly (this is where "the resistance" is failing).

I think this is true.  I would say "hope" it's true, but don't mean to imply that I hope that ICE and federalized national guard start will employ greater violence against nonviolent protestors.

I'm reminded of a book I just read, King: A Life, a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography on MLK.  It's fascinating in so many ways, even after I've watched numerous documentaries about King and the Civil Rights movement over my life.  You talk about a guy with an unwavering commitment to nonviolence, even when violence against the Black community had escalated, and when others in the movement had pleaded for King to start physically fighting back.  

But one thing Brisket's comment reminded me of was how the growing video footage of Southern law enforcement, unprovoked and without mercy, physically beating protestors -- men and women, and eventually children when they started joining the protests -- that started changing the attitudes of those viewing audiences outside of the South, including JFK himself and his administration.  It was the proliferation of TV sets in most American households by the 1960s, which showed more and more of the senseless beatings, fire hosings, and dog attacks against peaceful protestors, that really gave the Civil Rights movement significant momentum.

Maybe Trump's invasion of the blue cities will lead to something similar.  Though I'm sure plenty on the right won't see a comparison, and will chalk it up to a bunch of loser instigators in Chicago and Portland with nothing better to do, as opposed to Black's pushing for an end to segregation and the right to vote.  Those folks will cheer on the pepper balls, or worse.

But maybe it will start to change the minds of some folks.  Not entirely on Trump, because that toothpaste has left the station.  But maybe some of the more "reasonable" Republicans and right-leaning voters will push back on his overreach of executive force and power that they have let go unchecked so far.  Maybe.

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7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Radical right conservatives are still obsessed with Obama for some dumbass reason

 

Bruce Pearl is not the only one exercising his first amendment rights. His ass is being roasted on black social media. He has made his son’s job much more challenging.

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16 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I think this is true.  I would say "hope" it's true, but don't mean to imply that I hope that ICE and federalized national guard start will employ greater violence against nonviolent protestors.

I'm reminded of a book I just read, King: A Life, a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography on MLK.  It's fascinating in so many ways, even after I've watched numerous documentaries about King and the Civil Rights movement over my life.  You talk about a guy with an unwavering commitment to nonviolence, even when violence against the Black community had escalated, and when others in the movement had pleaded for King to start physically fighting back.  

But one thing Brisket's comment reminded me of was how the growing video footage of Southern law enforcement, unprovoked and without mercy, physically beating protestors -- men and women, and eventually children when they started joining the protests -- that started changing the attitudes of those viewing audiences outside of the South, including JFK himself and his administration.  It was the proliferation of TV sets in most American households by the 1960s, which showed more and more of the senseless beatings, fire hosings, and dog attacks against peaceful protestors, that really gave the Civil Rights movement significant momentum.

Maybe Trump's invasion of the blue cities will lead to something similar.  Though I'm sure plenty on the right won't see a comparison, and will chalk it up to a bunch of loser instigators in Chicago and Portland with nothing better to do, as opposed to Black's pushing for an end to segregation and the right to vote.  Those folks will cheer on the pepper balls, or worse.

But maybe it will start to change the minds of some folks.  Not entirely on Trump, because that toothpaste has left the station.  But maybe some of the more "reasonable" Republicans and right-leaning voters will push back on his overreach of executive force and power that they have let go unchecked so far.  Maybe.

the difference is that in King's day, newspapers and TV stations nationwide covered the events and showed the cruelty.  Today 75% of the media would either outright ignore the event or blame the victims.  

Something similar to Selma could happen today and most would shrug and go about their day.

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We took the freedom of speech away because that's been through the courts and the courts said you have freedom of speech

The fuck does that even mean?  We took it away but the courts said no?  And the flag burning crap is just his usual  drivel.

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57 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

No, no, it's because he wasn't "grateful" enough! To the country that so generously allowed him to be in that position! Not racist at all.....

“Trump’s ICE would have deported him back to Kenya because of that false birth certificate…..” Probably.

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What are the odds even this SCOTUS rules against him on this? They clearly don't care how bad they look right now trying to provoke a civil war and I'd hope that makes such a play a lot weaker, but fuck am I getting a nauseous feeling over marines being deployed across all major cities.

 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Radical right conservatives are still obsessed with Obama for some dumbass reason

 

Yep, I'm done giving these idiots the benefit of the doubt that ignorance provides. There's just no way he doesn't understand the racial undertones of calling out one of this country's most accomplished black men for not being more grateful to the nation that kind enough to allow his rise to happen. He knows. He doesn't care.

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Radical right conservatives are still obsessed with Obama for some dumbass reason

 

Did he also mention how articulate he is? From one Jew to another--fuck off!

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city of Austin gets brought up in one of the dumbest possible ways. Trump doesn't disappoint, sputters like Miss S Carolina.

 

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Just saying and doing things daily that would have ended any other presidency. Just today we get trying to stop peaceful protests and saying “we took away free speech”.

And it’s not like he ran on “restoring free speech” or anything. This would be like a democrat president doing everything possible to take away everyone’s healthcare. And saying out loud “I’m trying to take away healthcare from as many people as possible”.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mrs @Brisketexan is a Presbyterian Minister, and I’ve met her. It would take a lot more than one pepper ball to slow her down.

 

Looks like it might be the same guy photographed earlier in another act of heresy.  IIRC he was a Presby minister also.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

"Obama being black" isn't a dumbass reason.

I mean, it's a shitty, evil, racist reason.  But....it's a reason.  

Wait...it's also a dumbass reason.  My bad.

I resisted the urge for many, many months to respond to a friend of my former in-laws who is constantly spouting MAGA/Conservative bullshit on Facebook. He gives out "Biden Awards" and shit for things he thinks are dumb -- as if Biden is even fucking relevant today.

Anyway, I finally laid into him pretty good when he called Obama a "DEI" hire. Will probably finally put him on Snooze after this.

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Gov. JB Pritzker says President Trump deploying troops to Chicago due to ‘dementia’ and obsessive fixations

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gov-jb-pritzker-says-president-233400557.html

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In a scathing critique of President Donald Trump, Gov. JB Pritzker on Tuesday accused the Republican president of deploying National Guard troops to the Democratic cities of Chicago and Portland based on fixations that stem in part from his being mentally impaired.

“This is a man who’s suffering dementia,” Pritzker said in a telephone interview with the Tribune. “This is a man who has something stuck in his head. He can’t get it out of his head. He doesn’t read. He doesn’t know anything that’s up to date. It’s just something in the recesses of his brain that is effectuating to have him call out these cities.

“And then, unfortunately, he has the power of the military, the power of the federal government to do his bidding, and that’s what he’s doing.”

The governor’s comments came as National Guard troops from Texas were assembling at a U.S. Army Reserve training center in far southwest suburban Elwood and Trump’s administration was moving forward with deploying 300 members of the Illinois National Guard for at least 60 days over the vocal and legal objections of Pritzker and other local elected leaders.

The Trump administration has said the troops are needed to protect federal agents and facilities involved in its ongoing deportation surge and has sought to do much the same in Portland, Oregon, though those efforts have been stymied so far by temporary court rulings. A federal judge in Chicago is expected to hold a hearing this week over the legal effort by Illinois and Chicago to block the deployments, which Pritzker and other local officials say is not only unnecessary but a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act that prohibits the use of U.S. military assets from taking part in law enforcement actions on domestic soil.

During the interview, Pritzker — who has been one of Trump’s harshest critics and is a potential 2028 presidential Democratic candidate — said the courts will play an integral role in challenging Trump’s efforts in Illinois and across the nation.

“We’re not going to go to war between the state of Illinois and the federal government, not taking up arms against the federal government,” Pritzker said. “But we are monitoring everything they’re doing, and using that monitoring to win in court.”

Pritzker also said he has not had any conversations with his staff or other Democratic governors regarding a so-called soft secession, a political and legal theory that has grown during Trump’s second term in which Democratic states would gradually withdraw their cooperation with the federal government, including withholding financial support, without formally leaving the Union.

“Preparing for and going to court with the law on our side and winning in court is important,” he continued. “It is the most important thing that we can do legally. If there are people who are suggesting there are things that we should do that are illegal. I would suggest to you, we’re not going to do those things.”

But even as the governor said he was counting on winning in the courts, Trump was openly exploring options to circumvent them.

Speaking in the Oval Office on Tuesday, the president reiterated that he was considering employing the two-century-old Insurrection Act to get around legal court orders that would deny him the ability to deploy National Guard troops to cities such as Chicago and Portland over governors’ objections.

“It’s been invoked before,” Trump said of the law, which the Brennan Center for Justice said has been used 30 times, starting with President George Washington, to quell the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794.

The Insurrection Act is an exception to Posse Comitatus and allows a president to deploy the military to “suppress rebellion” or “insurrection” when enforcing federal law becomes “impracticable.”

Past Supreme Court rulings have given the president broad discretionary powers to decide if conditions have been met to invoke the Insurrection Act, but it has left the door open for judicial review to determine if a president invoked the law “in bad faith” or in going beyond “a permitted range of honest judgment.” And the actions of the military, once invoked, are also subject to judicial review.

The last time the Insurrection Act was invoked was by President George H.W. Bush during the Los Angeles riots of 1992, with the support of California Gov. Pete Wilson. It also was used in Chicago in 1968 by President Lyndon Johnson to curb rioting over the assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. with the backing of Mayor Richard J. Daley and acting Gov. Samuel Shapiro.

But the last time it was invoked over the opposition of a sitting governor was in 1965 when Johnson used it to federalize troops to protect civil rights marchers in Montgomery, Alabama, over the objections of segregationist Gov. George Wallace.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower famously invoked the act in 1957 to order the Arkansas National Guard to stand down from its orders from Gov. Orval Faubus to prevent the segregation of Little Rock’s public schools following the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education ruling. Eisenhower also deployed the Army’s 101st Airborne Division to protect Black students attending classes.

As Pritzker has sought to counter Trump on nearly every front, he has joined California Gov. Gavin Newsom in threatening to leave the bipartisan National Governors Association because the organization hasn’t spoken out against Trump’s National Guard mobilizations.

In the Tribune interview, Pritzker noted how nearly all 50 state governors at the time signed on to an April 29, 2024, letter to then-President Joe Biden’s administration opposing the military’s push in Congress to forcibly transfer Air National Guard units performing space missions into the U.S. Space Force without the governors’ consent.

Among those who signed were then-GOP South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, who now heads the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, overseeing the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency and Border Patrol.

“Well, I’m somebody who likes to reach out and do things in a bipartisan fashion, and I’ve attended NGA events and had friendly relationships with some Republican governors in the past, and the NGA has an important role. But not if it’s unwilling to stand up in this moment and speak on behalf of states’ rights the way that it always has,” Pritzker said. “So I don’t know how I can trust that the NGA actually does stand up for the states with Republicans in charge, apparently they’re just going to do Donald Trump’s bidding.”

Pritzker also continued to defend the process and timing of the Illinois attorney general’s office in filing a lawsuit to halt the National Guard activations, which wasn’t filed until Monday, two days after U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a memo about the Illinois National Guard deployments. This is despite Pritzker and Attorney General Kwame Raoul knowing for weeks that Trump had threatened to send the military to the streets of the Chicago area.

“You have to understand legal proceedings. In order for you to bring a lawsuit of any sort, you have to have what’s called ripeness. It has to be ripe. That means there has to be some action that’s taken to demonstrate that the wrong is being effectuated,” said Pritzker, calling any questions about the timing of the suit “a false avenue to follow.” “Just because someone says they’re going to call out the National Guard to do this in Illinois, until they do, you can’t file suit.”

More of this please. Much more of this.

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Really like Tom Nichols and he is accurate about the arrival of a civil-military crisis (new to America) and why the admin is stoking it. The military remains the sole power source outside of personal political control. 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Really like Tom Nichols and he is accurate about the arrival of a civil-military crisis (new to America) and why the admin is stoking it. The military remains the sole power source outside of personal political control. 

 

 

 

Just dusted this off for a quick read. 

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Can't find it now, but lawfare or justsecurity had an article about how the presidential immunity decision really fucks up the chain of command.

Because every presidential decision pursuant to commander-in-chief powers is presumptively if not conclusively immune from prosecution, an unlawful order from POTUS will never be adjudicated as such.

Therefore, officers confronted with an unlawful order from POTUS are unlikely to be vindicated, at least in the form of POTUS being adjudged guilty of issuing an unlawful order.  Particularly at the highest levels of the armed forces.  Junior officers can still be vindicated from unlawful orders of superiors under POTUS.

Quite problematic and frightening.

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35 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Really like Tom Nichols and he is accurate about the arrival of a civil-military crisis (new to America) and why the admin is stoking it. The military remains the sole power source outside of personal political control. 

 

 

 

They sure are ok with murdering people accused of “carrying drugs” despite being able to stop and search the boats without blowing them up, but sure. They’re really loyal to the constitution 



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