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EU President giving a press conference now:

All air space will be shut down in EU airspace, for any and all Russian civilian and military planes

All Russian tv channels are banned in the EU

EU is now also sanctioning Belarus to prevent Russia from using them as a workaround, and also to punish Lukashenko for helping Putin.

All Russian banks are excluded from SWIFT, and will freeze all accounts of their Central Bank and all oligarch's accounts

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:



Yeah…..there will be an assault with weapons from a distance, but there won’t be a “siege.” They don’t have the numbers to completely surround it. And….even if they did….who’s gonna cover their back? Think there aren’t some pissed off Ukes with javelins BEHIND them? Sleep well, Rooskies.

Break them. Bleed them. Burn them. With everything you can. Whenever they are. Everywhere they are. That is how you fight, that is how you win.

The whole world is against you, Russia. The world will inspire that the suffering you have brought to Ukraine returns to you, in the shattered bodies of your sons, in a thousand cuts to every one of you at home. You have one path to peace: kill Putin. That’s it. It’s your only choice. This only gets worse for you.

 

 

bomb them all you want, shoot all your missiles. when it's over, they'll crawl back out, grab a rifle and start fighting again

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27 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

what's with the sandboxing, territorial nonsense?  the guy's jacket starts with "ПO...", which is cyrilic  for "PO..." and Ukrainian for "Police".

it's a positive TX-related gesture.  why do you feel it needs to be political or CR? 

Ask in CR or quit safespacing.

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7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

This is the out if both sides agreed.  You dont think that if Putin said "I'll withdrawal all troops immediately if these sanctions are removed" the UN wouldn't do it? Make the concession that they're lifted after the last soldier crosses back into Russia and the UN will do it I think?

No.  Those sanctions were put in place until there is a regime change.  He fucked around and found out.   Now he has and opportunity to resign and keep what he stole, but he has no opportunity to return to the situation that existed 1 week ago.   

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Gotta hand it to the Ukranians, they're not making it easy on Russia despite being out numbered and largely fighting with Soviet era equipment save for some anti-tank munitions like Javelin missiles. The cowardly Iraqis and Afghans were armed to the teeth with US equipment and laid down like cheap whores when ISIS and the Taliban collided with them.

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Just now, 52-80 said:

"I'll only answer you in a different place". 

You started the complaint here.  Finish your sentence or STFU.

OK, FUCK YOU for hiding behind a wall asking a political question in DT when the answer will get me banned unless you show some balls and ask me in Cloak Room. Got it?

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3 hours ago, Bevo said:

If the Ukraine can get a cease fire, Russia is in for a world of hurt. I assume there are an incredible amount of weapons sitting at the border in Slovakia and Poland. That pause will allow those weapons to flow quickly into the Ukraine so it can refortify.

“The” Ukraine is how Russia refers to the sovereign nation of “Ukraine” because it sees it as a region under its control. 
 

Please avoid referencing it as such going forward. Kthanksbye 

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1 hour ago, 52-80 said:

Fortified veteran phalanx units at the front.  Trebuchets at the back.  And keep building granaries to keep those troops fed.

you know, ive had this thought from the start - no way in hell Russian supply lines can keep all those troops fed and loaded up with ammo. the breaking point is near imo. we are already seeing fuel shortages 

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2 minutes ago, Chad said:

Gotta hand it to the Ukranians, they're not making it easy on Russia despite being out numbered and largely fighting with Soviet era equipment save for some anti-tank munitions like Javelin missiles. The cowardly Iraqis and Afghans were armed to the teeth with US equipment and laid down like cheap whores when ISIS and the Taliban collided with them.

Don't fear the weapon, fear the man.  

-Rapid Fire 

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2 minutes ago, Chad said:

Gotta hand it to the Ukranians, they're not making it easy on Russia despite being out numbered and largely fighting with Soviet era equipment save for some anti-tank munitions like Javelin missiles. The cowardly Iraqis and Afghans were armed to the teeth with US equipment and laid down like cheap whores when ISIS and the Taliban collided with them.

That’s not fair to the Afghans and Iraqis, we thought filling them up for decades with Sour Green Apple Jolly Ranchers would make them want to fight 

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4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

No.  Those sanctions were put in place until there is a regime change.  He fucked around and found out.   Now he has and opportunity to resign and keep what he stole, but he has no opportunity to return to the situation that existed 1 week ago.   

That’s fine.  We all have our opinions.   What I’m saying is we’re this to be on the table, my guess is the feckless UN would capitulate 

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3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

“The” Ukraine is how Russia refers to the sovereign nation of “Ukraine” because it sees it as a region under its control. 
 

Please avoid referencing it as such going forward. Kthanksbye 

Can we refer to the US as the US?

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What should the U.S. do?

For now, the sensible, and confident, American answer should be to do nothing. This might seem counter-intuitive: The Russians have gone to an alert, and it would seem only prudent to answer this with a reciprocal raising of U.S. alert status. But this Cold War reaction is, I suspect, exactly what Putin wants. He’s in a jam and he’s trying to look strong, and part of the way he can do that is to turn his hare-brained scheme in Ukraine into a gigantic Russian-American confrontation. Putin would like nothing better than to take everyone’s mind off Ukraine and focus us all on a game of nuclear chicken.

 

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6 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

A counter offensive to retake crimea would be the chefs kiss.

Interesting thought if they would even insist on this?  They already have entire world favoring them... and Crimea is ethnic Russian-majority.  Maybe its final end-state is as some HK-like entity

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25 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

You can’t conduct a successful siege campaign if you don’t have control of airspace. Russia doesn’t and seemingly isn’t close to having this.  

 

drones from 'third world' countries need to be flooding into the country. heavily armed of course. im sure they can be operated safely from poland, with US forces technical advisors close by. in case anyone has a question 

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Annalena's base already starting to revolt. Every party has a young voter group, but the Greens' are particularly numerous and influential, as the Greens have a huuuuuge amount of Greta Thunberg-driven supporters. 

 

The Young Greens are angered by the federal government's armaments plans. Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) had announced a one-off "special fund" of 100 billion euros for the Bundeswehr in response to the Russian Ukraine campaign and the Kremlin's threats.
 

This was done "without any political or social debate," complained Timon Dzienus, co-head of the Young Greens. "The supposed need for investment in the Bundeswehr results in particular from mismanagement and misplanning, not from a lack of budget," he told the German Press Agency on Sunday. "Now is not the time for long-term disarmament and armament policy debates, but for concrete support for the people of Ukraine."
 

It is a central security issue to become independent through renewable energies, emphasized Dzienus. Instead of investing in further armament, the expansion of renewable energies, the heat transition and the complete balance of the social impact, such as rising energy prices, must be the top priority. The debt brake (Shady Note: "Debt Brake" is German law requiring balanced budget) must no longer stand in the way of this."

 

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article237187613/Ukraine-Krieg-Gruene-Jugend-irritiert-ueber-ploetzliche-Aufstockung-bei-Ruestung.html

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2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

What should the U.S. do?

For now, the sensible, and confident, American answer should be to do nothing. This might seem counter-intuitive: The Russians have gone to an alert, and it would seem only prudent to answer this with a reciprocal raising of U.S. alert status. But this Cold War reaction is, I suspect, exactly what Putin wants. He’s in a jam and he’s trying to look strong, and part of the way he can do that is to turn his hare-brained scheme in Ukraine into a gigantic Russian-American confrontation. Putin would like nothing better than to take everyone’s mind off Ukraine and focus us all on a game of nuclear chicken.

 

We’ve seen how well they’ve maintained the rest of their military gear. Do the Russian nukes even work?

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Just now, tx 3 putt said:

 

drones from 'third world' countries need to be flooding into the country. heavily armed of course. im sure they can be operated safely from poland, with US forces technical advisors close by. in case anyone has a question 

“Air space” involves various levels.   Low level helicopter and attack plane space they do not have.   High level strategic bombing, were they to go this route.   They’d have

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What should the U.S. do?
For now, the sensible, and confident, American answer should be to do nothing. This might seem counter-intuitive: The Russians have gone to an alert, and it would seem only prudent to answer this with a reciprocal raising of U.S. alert status. But this Cold War reaction is, I suspect, exactly what Putin wants. He’s in a jam and he’s trying to look strong, and part of the way he can do that is to turn his hare-brained scheme in Ukraine into a gigantic Russian-American confrontation. Putin would like nothing better than to take everyone’s mind off Ukraine and focus us all on a game of nuclear chicken.
 

Agree. The answer should be “why would we change the alert status of our nuclear forces? We aren’t at war with Russia, and we aren’t busy attacking a sovereign country. I guess we can understand why Russia is - when a coward starts losing a war, he gets scared. And Putin is doing what a scared coward would do. But he doesn’t have anything to fear from us. He should probably worry about when his own army turns on him.” And then drop the mic. Let Putin start purging his leaders. Let them strike preemptively and purge him.
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