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15 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Trump getting ahead of an expected Republican majority vote by claiming he was for releasing stuff all along.

Never mind just last week he was badgering Mace and Boebert into not signing the thing that triggered the vote.

 

 

just like he endorses whomever is up in the polls. 

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48 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

So what's the new play? Get the Senate to take the hit, who he owns even more completely? Or just buying time to figure out how to bury anything else with his name on it?

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So what's the new play? Get the Senate to take the hit, who he owns even more completely? Or just buying time to figure out how to bury anything else with his name on it?

I wonder if his crack legal team is telling him that the bad shit won’t come out because of some legal prohibition. There was some disclaimer/equivocation in his post…”can have whatever they are legally entitled to.”
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8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So what's the new play? Get the Senate to take the hit, who he owns even more completely? Or just buying time to figure out how to bury anything else with his name on it?

He got the all car from Kash Money that their work scrubbing his name from everything is done.  Of course Kash Money is dumbass so they probably aren’t done. 

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10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So what's the new play? Get the Senate to take the hit, who he owns even more completely? Or just buying time to figure out how to bury anything else with his name on it?

 

After the House and Senate vote to send this to him for his signature:

 

"I'd sign this right now, except for the investigation that Pam is running on this evidence; I can't do it legally, but I'd love to"

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Gotta love the daily reminder that we are winning bigly on affordability and stopping men in women’s sports and transgender for everyone.

I was starting to worry that grocery prices were going up and I might get my dick chopped off at my next primary care visit. Looks like everything will be okay after all.

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

The Epstein files have been scrubbed more than Brisketexan's Thanksgiving day plate.  

35 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

So what's the new play? Get the Senate to take the hit, who he owns even more completely? Or just buying time to figure out how to bury anything else with his name on it?

30 minutes ago, scottsins said:

I wonder if his crack legal team is telling him that the bad shit won’t come out because of some legal prohibition. There was some disclaimer/equivocation in his post…”can have whatever they are legally entitled to.”

23 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

After the House and Senate vote to send this to him for his signature:

"I'd sign this right now, except for the investigation that Pam is running on this evidence; I can't do it legally, but I'd love to"

 

1234 - Francisco and scottsins nailed it - there's now an active investigation that is going to take years, so gotta keep the evidence sealed.

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Even without the open investigation excuse, Patel is just going to simply say no when they ask for the files. They will bitch and moan about it for a few weeks and ultimately do nothing about it. Even if they did charge him with contempt of Congress or whatever, he’d get a short stay in a cushy prison with a puppy and an immediate pardon.  
 

I’m surprised the files still exist in the first place.  Whatever crime it would be for Patel to just completely destroy them all would be met with a pardon.

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Even without the open investigation, excuse, Patel is just going to simply say no when they ask for the files. They will bitch and moan about it for a few weeks and ultimately do nothing about it. Even if they did charge him with contempt of Congress or whatever, he’d get a short stay in a cushy prison with a puppy and an immediate pardon.  
 
I’m surprised the files still exist in the first place.  Whatever crime it would be for Patel to just completely destroy them all would be met with a pardon.

Because this is where we are now.
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53 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Blondi is going to make Merrick Garland look like he was working at warp speed.

 

Plus, if things get worse, Trump will fire Pam and appoint someone who "needs time" to get "up to speed" on what can be released.

 

 

 

 

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Trump and his Administration do whatever they want, whenever they want. Someone should ask Trump why Congress has to vote to release the Epstein files at all instead of him just ordering them to be released. 

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11 minutes ago, C-Man said:

It’s been talked about on here but this is the play:
 

It's as simple as recognizing it will pass and saying "I was supportive of it all along! Fake news said otherwise!"

The Senate will be under enormous pressure to pass it, then it will hit his desk and he has to veto it. 

The idiots will try to stall and it will stay in the news as more information continues to leak out.

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It's as simple as recognizing it will pass and saying "I was supportive of it all along! Fake news said otherwise!"
The Senate will be under enormous pressure to pass it, then it will hit his desk and he has to veto it. 
The idiots will try to stall and it will stay in the news as more information continues to leak out.

Or Pam and Kash and crew have successfully scrubbed them of Trump’s name
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12 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

You’re not seeing the game

Trump is now pressing the senate not to take up the vote after it passes the House. Meanwhile he’s “got nothing to hide”

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2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Trump Strategy

"We need to open investigations on the Epstein Files!"
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"I can't comment on open investigations!"

And this is after stating they weren't releasing the files because they had already concluded that Epstein was only sex trafficking minors to himself. 

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Seriously, I love this.  "There was no predatory intent."

I was just...and adult male.  She was....a juvenile.  And...I occupied a position of trust and power in relation to said minor.  So, I had no predatory intent, I just totally lucked into the "predator-victim" dynamic, why are y'all hating on me for having such good luck?

And big-picture, the right has revealed that being sexually predatory and degrading to women is ingrained in their DNA in recent years.  The Baylor rape scandals prompted some of this discussion -- how Baylor's first conservative baptist inclination was to blame the victims (what does she expect, hanging around....those types, and, ummm, let's not make any good Christian men lose their jobs because women are sluts, okay?), etc.  Women are subservient to men, exist for men to do with as they please, and there's no age limit on that.  If a powerful man wants any woman to do anything, the important thing is that we acknowledge that the man's status of power is a blessing from God, and is as God intended, and who are we to argue with God's intent?  And it goes on, and on, and on.  Conservative pastors, MAGA land, etc.

No, it's not UNIQUE to conservatives (as many have noted above, there are 100% guaranteed many more liberal/Dem types in the Epstein files doing similar predatory evil shit).  But the common thread is "men of power can do what they want," and that ethos isn't just allowed in the conservative movement, it is foundational, lionized, and preached as a social good.

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And this is after stating they weren't releasing the files because they had already concluded that Epstein was only sex trafficking minors to himself. 

I had forgotten about that. Was that Patel’s testimony? Something like “There is no Epstein list because he had no clients.”

It would be nice if we had a press corps who didn’t act like a dog being fooled by pump fakes with a tennis ball.
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3 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

He knows the bill will never see a vote in the Senate.

Or even if the Senate does vote, Bondi has assured him that she can bury the request since there's an "active" investigation.

I can only imagine the security around these Epstein files and info within the DOJ. They know that all it takes is one person to hand the information to a reporter, and the genie is out of the bottle.

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The Epstein Emails Show That Conspiracy Theorists Are Right: ‘Eyes Wide Shut’ Is Real

It seems there is a code among people with power and money who are pals no matter what side of the aisle, no matter the sins

https://www.thewrap.com/epstein-emails-conspiracy/

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The shocking revelation in the trove of 20,000 emails from the sordid world of Jeffrey Epstein is not that crimes were being committed.

It’s more sinister. The emails are disturbing because what they reveal, validate — and in fact prove — is that conspiracy theorists are right. That their theories of full-on corruption in the upper spheres where power lives are valid. That the “Eyes Wide Shut“ cabal of political and financial interests married to sinister sexual deviance depicted in Stanley Kubrick’s 1999 film is not, in fact, fiction. It is reality. 

So often journalists like myself attempt to demonstrate to family members and voters in the far reaches of the country, away from centers of power and money, that their conspiracies are false. That politicians are flawed, but that corruption is not the norm. It isn’t how we all operate. 

But the Epstein emails suggest otherwise. They suggest that in fact there is a widespread code among people with power and money who support one another. They are pals no matter what side of the aisle. They are in the club no matter the sins of their members — transgressions that get contextualized, explained away, “understood.”

Leave aside, for a moment, Donald Trump’s involvement in any of this. His name appears more than 1,600 times in the email release, according to a Wall Street Journal review, and we all know how hard he’s fighting to keep the files from the Department of Justice investigation from being released.

But the web extends beyond the President of the United States. Epstein’s email pals range across the landscape of the politics and trip across business, media, tech, academia and society, from former Harvard president and U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers to former White House Democratic counsel Kathy Ruemmler. From MAGA dark knight Steve Bannon to prime ministers across northern Europe and Gulf oil dignitaries. 

They include chummy conversations with a New Age health guru Deepak Chopra and a New York PR fixer Peggy Siegel, with a New York Times journalist Landon Thomas Jr, a Bonfire of the Vanities simulacrum Michael Wolff – and Harvard literature professor and poet Elisa Lew, whom Epstein gave a $500,000 donation for her TV project, “Poetry in America.”

In an email, she recommended he read “Lolita” by Nabokov, “a man whose whole life is stamped forever by his impression of a young girl.” (No, I am not making this up. And — just a guess — Epstein was probably already familiar with the novel.) 

The emails include real-time texting with US Virgin Islands Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett while she was soliciting public testimony from former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, live on C-SPAN.

“Great outfit,” he texted her during the 2019 hearing, later advising: “Cohen brought up RONA — keeper of the secrets,” referring to Rhona Graff, Trump’s longtime executive assistant, before pushing her to ask about other “henchmen” in the Trump organization. 

At the time these emails were being exchanged, Epstein had already pleaded guilty to procuring a girl younger than 18 for prostitution and sentenced to 18 months in prison (serving only partially). That was in 2008. By the 2010s he was back in the saddle, with dinner invitations accepted, his private jet sought after — and apparently his friendship and advice. 

In March 2019, Summers whined to Epstein that a woman had “blown off” a weekend plan and complained about “being the friend without benefits.” 

Epstein replied with his best dating advice:  “She’s smart … making you pay for past errors … you reacted well.. annoyed shows caring … no whining showed strength.” 

Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend de Grisogono Sponsors The 2005 Wall Street Concert Series (Photo by Joe Schildhorn/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images)

Just a few months after this exchange, Epstein was arrested again, this time by the feds, on charges of sex trafficking. As a reminder, the search of his Manhattan townhouse at the time turned up evidence of sex trafficking and “hundreds—and perhaps thousands — of sexually suggestive photographs of fully — or partially —nude females,” according to the indictment. In a locked safe, there were CDs with handwritten labels: “Young [Name] + [Name],” “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude.”

“So many people tried to ingratiate themselves with him,” observed Julie K. Brown, the intrepid journalist from The Miami Herald who first exposed Epstein’s crimes and has doggedly pursued the story long after. She hopped on the phone with me on Sunday.

I asked Brown if she thought the emails validated those who believed in wacky Pizzagate-style theories (where Hillary Clinton was bizarrely accused of participating in a pedophile ring). 

“It’s complicated. What do you mean by conspiracy? (Ghislaine) Maxwell and Epstein — that was a conspiracy,” she said. “And that’s exactly the way they should be looked at. He got away with this. And our criminal justice system is broken. People who have money and power get away with crimes. That’s just a fact. [The email trove] shows that people are willing to overlook even the worst crime if they think that somehow they’re going to benefit.”

She added: “It’s what they call the swamp.” 

The swamp is specifically what Donald Trump promised to clean up. But he and Epstein are the swamp. We already knew about the likes of Bill Gates, Bill Clinton and ex-Prince Andrew. But these emails suggest a much wider group of elites who accepted Epstein as fine company.  

You remember the scene in “Eyes Wide Shut” when Tom Cruise finds that weird orgy mansion with masks and creepy rituals? I always found that scene eye-rolling. But can we honestly argue that Epstein’s Pedophile Island isn’t just like that? It’s the deep state network depicted in “One Battle After Another” with sex instead of racism as the social glue. And it validates what has animated so much of the MAGA movement and the populist anger among progressives: the belief that the system is rigged. That regular people cannot get access to the byways of power or, eventually, money. 

This is the antithesis of democracy.

I used to scoff at the notion that there was a vast conspiracy of men — from public figures to shadowy spooks — who trafficked in women across the world. I don’t any more. 

The question is: What are we going to do about it?

 

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21 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I’ve updated my odds for if the Epstein files will result in Trumps demise to 0%.

I'm still optimistically thinking that the odds are greater than 0% because those currently charged with the security of the Epstein files also have an interest in self-preservation.

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11 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I'm still optimistically thinking that the odds are greater than 0% because those currently charged with the security of the Epstein files also have an interest in self-preservation.

And they are incompetent morons.

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12 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I'm still optimistically thinking that the odds are greater than 0% because those currently charged with the security of the Epstein files also have an interest in self-preservation.

Their ubiquitous incompetence has to raise the level to at least one percent

Fudge for the nanosecond win!

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:


Or Pam and Kash and crew have successfully scrubbed them of Trump’s name

There is always a copy...always.  That's their problem, I imagine.  They know that they are not the sole possessors of this information.

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50 minutes ago, C-Man said:

The Epstein Emails Show That Conspiracy Theorists Are Right: ‘Eyes Wide Shut’ Is Real

It seems there is a code among people with power and money who are pals no matter what side of the aisle, no matter the sins

https://www.thewrap.com/epstein-emails-conspiracy/

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The question is: What are we going to do about it?

 

Um...put them all in prison? Remove them from their positions of power in disgrace?

Not to be a radical leftwing communist here or anything.

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Same as it ever was....

I always like to point out the date of that tweet. Not only was it before he was elected the first time, it was before the grab em by the pussy tape was released.
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1 minute ago, Red Five said:


I always like to point out the date of that tweet. Not only was it before he was elected the first time, it was before the grab em by the pussy tape was released.

His bulletproof/teflon nature is perhaps the greatest indicator that all legacy media has utterly and completely failed.  Not "mostly failed" -- completely failed.

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Or Pam and Kash and crew have successfully scrubbed them of Trump’s name

For whatever reason, they do not seem to have the ability to do this or else it would’ve been their first move months ago and we would’ve already been fed the falsified version. It’s the easy out that they haven’t taken, which could only be because it’s not actually a viable option.
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I am guessing there are multiple copies and they don't have control over all of them.  It's the only thing that would prevent them from being edited or destroyed.

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2 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:


For whatever reason, they do not seem to have the ability to do this or else it would’ve been their first move months ago and we would’ve already been fed the falsified version. It’s the easy out that they haven’t taken, which could only be because it’s not actually a viable option.

Counterpoint -- he's in them ALOT.

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Yup so republicans will vote yes now but bondi will say they’re sealed again while they process charges on all the libruls in there. Charges coming in 2 weeks. I’m still not convinced this matters at all with the electorate. Im just enjoying the memes and knowing that he’s seen at least a few and is probably stewing in the hate.

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