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17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm reserving judgment until I know more about caliber, magazine capacity and ballistics.  It could have just been a misunderstanding.

Could have been a lot of feral hogs running around the area.

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5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm reserving judgment until I know more about caliber, magazine capacity and ballistics.  It could have just been a misunderstanding.

Lucky for you, Alex Jones is asking questions about it.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Putin is blaming it on Ukraine.  Oh, who could have predicted that? 

Let me go out on a limb and suggest that Putin funded the assassins.

If he did, the security forces would have their shit together from the start. The way everything was handled from the hour and 20 minute delay in assault to the release of information about the “arrests” was amateur hour,

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Texas’ gun laws make the state an attractive destination for arms traffickers, gun control advocates say. Powerful, military-style assault rifles are legal and plentiful in Texas but banned in California.

“These are weapons of war that are used on the battlefield,” said David Pucino, legal director and deputy chief counsel at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2024/03/19/texas-gun-laws-and-firearms-trafficking-explained/#:~:text=Texas' gun laws make the,Texas but banned in California.

 

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15 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

I'm getting citizen app notifications of multiple people shot in Southpark meadows 

there as a shooting, but it was just your run of the mill shooting with two injured persons. not even elevated to death, much less mass shooting. guns are still safe! still not infringed!
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/shooting-southpark-meadows-two-people-austin-easter-sunday-night-apd-center/269-3c6f81fe-8e9c-4389-a0f6-c89b4bfb2588

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If there was ever any doubt that Americans value guns more than people, consider what would provoke the greater outrage - wholesale restrictions on your gun rights or your healthcare?

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15 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Multiple law enforcement officers shot in Charlotte, situation is apparently still active.  Doesn't sound good.  

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/29/us/officers-shot-charlotte-north-carolina/index.html

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CNN — “Numerous law enforcement officers” have been shot in an “active situation” in Charlotte, North Carolina, police say.

“The scene is still active. Avoid the area. Many roads are closed for faster ambulance transport. Please cooperate with authorities,” the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department said on X.

The incident is at the 5000 block of Galway Drive, police said, and a SWAT team is on scene.

“The US Marshals Task Force, which is comprised of officers from multiple agencies, was conducting an investigation in the area of the 5000 block of Galway Dr when they were engaged by active gunfire from a subject,” police said. “Multiple law enforcement officers have been struck by the gunfire and are being transported to the hospital.”

Police say an "active investigation" is underway

“Mayor Vi Lyles is monitoring the situation,” City of Charlotte spokesperson Lawrence Corley told CNN.

Police said “gunfire continues on the scene” in an earlier post on X.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

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That sucks. April is a very violent month, historically. That said, knock on wood, it feels like it’s been a long while (relatively speaking) since we’ve had a really bad school shooting or something.  Has anything changed?

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1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Three LEO reported dead (one deputy US Marshall and two local task force officers). One suspect dead inside house. Two others in held for questioning.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/29/us/officers-shot-charlotte-north-carolina/index.html

3 dead LEOs, and 5 wounded LEOs.  Just a fucking waste.  We are so desensitized to this sort of thing it's not even really a big story.  3 people dead, who knows how many family members directly impacted on a permanent basis due to loss, and who knows how critical the 5 wounded are?

Just makes me sad and angry.  

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Fuck.  My first cousin's husband is a Charlotte cop.  I was going to post about him in the Simms/Esiason thread on Football, but I figured it didn't matter that much.  He played with Bill Cowher at NC State, and they remain close.

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27 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

3 dead LEOs, and 5 wounded LEOs.  Just a fucking waste.  We are so desensitized to this sort of thing it's not even really a big story.  3 people dead, who knows how many family members directly impacted on a permanent basis due to loss, and who knows how critical the 5 wounded are?

Just makes me sad and angry.  

This didn’t even make my news feed today.

there’s no mentioning of it at all.

Donald Glover GIF by Childish Gambino

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5 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Multiple law enforcement officers shot in Charlotte, situation is apparently still active.  Doesn't sound good.  

Pro tip: Shooting several people serving a warrant != mass shooting

If you can hit hard targets armed to kill you then more power to you.  Mass shootings = cowards hitting soft targets because they are the dregs of society.

I hope this helps....

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41 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Thank Lucifer Surly has experts in death, mayhem, and caliber.

Don't sell them short dude, they're also experts in thoughts and prayers, mental health, and declaring when is a good time and not the time! 

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10 hours ago, Pimphand said:

If you can hit hard targets armed to kill you then more power to you.

That’s a fucked up take. I agree that there’s a difference but if you’re going to fire on the authorities serving a warrant then you deserve to get destroyed. Not “more power to you.” That makes you sound like a psychopath.

Are you a Branch Davidian or something?

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On 3/7/2024 at 6:22 PM, BevoAbyss said:

According to CNN: Uvalde's officers -- who stood around for 77 minutes during in a mass school shooting -- were cleared of blame by Investigators even though there were "failures."  

Doublethink in action. Mind-blowing. 

I've said here before, and I say it again. There is a massive intellectual and moral collapse happening in 40-60% of this country. 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/us/uvalde-school-massacre-report/index.html

 

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I have heard this one cited a few times.  2% have no ethical limiters at all.  26% can and will persuade themselves of whatever.   So in good times we have nearly 30% with a total moral failing.   I bet those 370 pussies breaks down about the same.  2% were OK with the children dying.  26% went along with the 2%.  And the rest didn't buck the chain of command.  

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

Pie-chart-of-ethical-compliance-of-the-3

I have heard this one cited a few times.  2% have no ethical limiters at all.  26% can and will persuade themselves of whatever.   So in good times we have nearly 30% with a total moral failing.   I bet those 370 pussies breaks down about the same.  2% were OK with the children dying.  26% went along with the 2%.  And the rest didn't buck the chain of command.  

Explains the floor for both Trump and Nixon's approval ratings. Nixon still had 25% support at the end. Trump's lowest was 34%.

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1 hour ago, Nivek said:

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I was going to make a reference to this looking/sounding like a Phil Collins boxed set.  But then i remembered all the dead children.  

I wonder how a "leader" can look at photographs of blood so deep that multiple mops couldn't get it all out after several hours and think, "Meh, could be worse."  

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I was going to make a reference to this looking/sounding like a Phil Collins boxed set.  But then i remembered all the dead children.  
I wonder how a "leader" can look at photographs of blood so deep that multiple mops couldn't get it all out after several hours and think, "Meh, could be worse."  

All you have to do is be an evil sociopath who only cares about himself. From the looks of our stateside leadership, that’s pretty easy. In fact, it must be damned near impossible NOT to be that kind of person, based on the data I’ve seen.
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1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

I wonder how a "leader" can look at photographs of blood so deep that multiple mops couldn't get it all out after several hours and think, "Meh, could be worse."  

Said "leader" when hearing multiple mops couldn't clean all the blood.

"So what? Get a fucking pressure washer."

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4 hours ago, Nivek said:

I have heard this one cited a few times.  2% have no ethical limiters at all.  26% can and will persuade themselves of whatever.   So in good times we have nearly 30% with a total moral failing.   I bet those 370 pussies breaks down about the same.  2% were OK with the children dying.  26% went along with the 2%.  And the rest didn't buck the chain of command.  

You are dealing with GED equivalent morons. You would think that some basic humanity would find a way to push through, but you are overestimating their abilities. 

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You have struck me as a man of science and reason. You must realize what an incredible statistical outlier this group of law-enforcement officials are.  That many hundreds in and around that community living with that kind of failure for the last two years and not one is gone. 
 

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On 5/23/2024 at 12:04 AM, Anastasis said:

You are dealing with GED equivalent morons. You would think that some basic humanity would find a way to push through, but you are overestimating their abilities. 

From what I was told those ratios were similar regardless of demographics/vocation and more about humanity.  

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it was interesting, spending almost four weeks in various European countries (we just got back a few days ago)...after about ten days, even though we had to keep an eye out for pickpockets and scammers in various locations, i slowly realized that i was in general feeling a much more relaxed state of mind wandering around unknown areas of these cities, both crowded and deserted (evenings), specifically bc in the back of my mind i was literally thinking 'none of these people have guns'. it was such a weird feeling...i mentioned it several times in different places once i realized i was feeling it.

i don't think we consciously realize how much of that is ingrained in our psyche - finding nearest exits every time you enter a public space, staying alert for any commotion in crowded settings, hell i frequently play the 'where will i run in this restaurant if someone comes in that door blasting? what about that door?' i mean it's not even disruptive or particularly disturbing anymore, it's just part of living in America. 

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43 minutes ago, mchookem said:

it was interesting, spending almost four weeks in various European countries (we just got back a few days ago)...after about ten days, even though we had to keep an eye out for pickpockets and scammers in various locations, i slowly realized that i was in general feeling a much more relaxed state of mind wandering around unknown areas of these cities, both crowded and deserted (evenings), specifically bc in the back of my mind i was literally thinking 'none of these people have guns'. it was such a weird feeling...i mentioned it several times in different places once i realized i was feeling it.

i don't think we consciously realize how much of that is ingrained in our psyche - finding nearest exits every time you enter a public space, staying alert for any commotion in crowded settings, hell i frequently play the 'where will i run in this restaurant if someone comes in that door blasting? what about that door?' i mean it's not even disruptive or particularly disturbing anymore, it's just part of living in America. 

Spot-on.  My kids have lived and gone to school in non-US countries for the past several years (Germany, Sweden, Canada, the UK).  They each have talked about how there is a huge gap between them and their non-American peers, along just the lines you mentioned.  Like, they'll have conversations and their friends ask "wait...when you go into a classroom the first time, you actually evaluate it for places that provide cover and how quickly you can get to the exits?"  Both kids answer yes (for classrooms and pretty much any public space), as do pretty much all of their American peers, and the non-Americans are legitimately gobsmacked by that.  

Sure, they have to keep their eyes out for other things, pickpockets, angry drunks, all the usual stuff.  But just knowing that there is a much much lower chance of someone showing up with a gun with a high-cap magazine to slaughter as many people as he can lets them breathe just a little bit easier.  And they each are pissed off that they can notice the difference.

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3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

When to we get the tedious debate about whether to do take purely symbolic action about guns or to do nothing at all about mental illness? I’m worried if it doesn’t start soon we’ll start talking about the intersection of isolation, despair, inequality and violence, which we must never do because #thisisamerica.

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Hi! I come from the insulting world of Boilerplate.

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What a load of corporate PR sounding bullshit. You can't muster up the gumption to write a truly personal note? I'm guessing the writer is a grad student which is a class of people destroying American writing and language.

Two years have passed, but the indescribable horror of what happened in those two classrooms remains vivid to Uvaldeans. To me, as well.... [right off the top of my head]

Fuck what you think positive change is and your commitment to it.

17 hours ago, mchookem said:

it was interesting, spending almost four weeks in various European countries (we just got back a few days ago)...

i don't think we consciously realize how much of that is ingrained in our psyche - finding nearest exits every time you enter a public space, staying alert for any commotion in crowded settings, hell i frequently play the 'where will i run in this restaurant if someone comes in that door blasting? what about that door?' i mean it's not even disruptive or particularly disturbing anymore, it's just part of living in America. 

I count on the good guy with a gun to save the day. 

 

15 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

When to we get the tedious debate about whether to do take purely symbolic action about guns or to do nothing at all about mental illness? I’m worried if it doesn’t start soon we’ll start talking about the intersection of isolation, despair, inequality and violence, which we must never do because #thisisamerica.

The template is always on standby. 

  1. What type of gun? 
  2. Where was it purchased?
  3. Roll call of the dead with family pix.
  4. Discussion about gun control.
  5. Impact on political races.
  6. Same images of weepers hugging in the foreground of the murder scene.

Never:

  • What is going on with our culture?
  • Does this fit our mythology of just about every conflict being solved by killing somebody?
  • What has led to the frequency increasing?
  • Actual mental health policy rather than merely a casual reference.

Panels, panels, panels...

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3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

What a load of corporate PR sounding bullshit. You can't muster up the gumption to write a truly personal note? I'm guessing the writer is a grad student which is a class of people destroying American writing and language.

I’ll have you know they wrote it with refrigerator magnets

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17 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Spot-on.  My kids have lived and gone to school in non-US countries for the past several years (Germany, Sweden, Canada, the UK).  They each have talked about how there is a huge gap between them and their non-American peers, along just the lines you mentioned.  Like, they'll have conversations and their friends ask "wait...when you go into a classroom the first time, you actually evaluate it for places that provide cover and how quickly you can get to the exits?"  Both kids answer yes (for classrooms and pretty much any public space), as do pretty much all of their American peers, and the non-Americans are legitimately gobsmacked by that.  

Sure, they have to keep their eyes out for other things, pickpockets, angry drunks, all the usual stuff.  But just knowing that there is a much much lower chance of someone showing up with a gun with a high-cap magazine to slaughter as many people as he can lets them breathe just a little bit easier.  And they each are pissed off that they can notice the difference.

The main danger in EU = soccer hooligans. 

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Today is the day that the 20 children massacred at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012 would have graduated, perhaps cheered on by the six teachers and administrators also killed in the deadliest K-12 shooting in US history.

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“A guy – armed – came into my classroom and started shooting all of my friends and my teachers and my classmates,” she [Emma] said. “His gun jammed and a friend of mine, Jesse Lewis, yelled at us to run and that’s what we did.”

Jesse Lewis, just six years old, shown in family photos with rosy cheeks and a smile full of baby teeth, was killed. But his quick thinking and desire to help his friends propelled Emma and a few other children to bump past the gunman and get out.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/sandy-hook-survivors-graduate-high-school/index.html

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3 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Hi! I come from the insulting world of Boilerplate.

image.png.5d7b1c98a9998887c7e43907f45550e8.png

What a load of corporate PR sounding bullshit. You can't muster up the gumption to write a truly personal note? I'm guessing the writer is a grad student which is a class of people destroying American writing and language.

Two years have passed, but the indescribable horror of what happened in those two classrooms remains vivid to Uvaldeans. To me, as well.... [right off the top of my head]

Fuck what you think positive change is and your commitment to it.

I count on the good guy with a gun to save the day. 

 

The template is always on standby. 

  1. What type of gun? 
  2. Where was it purchased?
  3. Roll call of the dead with family pix.
  4. Discussion about gun control.
  5. Impact on political races.
  6. Same images of weepers hugging in the foreground of the murder scene.

Never:

  • What is going on with our culture?
  • Does this fit our mythology of just about every conflict being solved by killing somebody?
  • What has led to the frequency increasing?
  • Actual mental health policy rather than merely a casual reference.

Panels, panels, panels...

Probably done with chat gpt.

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