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All Quiet on the Western Front (Daniel Brühl, German-language, Oct 28 in Theaters and on Netflix)


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The John Boy/Borgnine version is pretty good.  But I suppose that this is going to be more gore porny, which is probably a good thing.

Funny that two moley-faces will play Gefreiter Baumer (assuming Bruhl plays him, was hard to tell in the preview).

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12 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Really good, but unfortunately gets compared to the 30s version which is an all time great.

This is the correct answer. The original was lightning in a bottle. Hard to recapture that magic. CGI might help.

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18 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

My username for all video games and other type things is Tjaden. Always loved that name since reading the book in high school.

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I haven't seen the movie from the 70s, only recently (finally)watched the one from the 30s around when the Peter Jackson WWI restoration movie became available to buy. It was great as I expected.

That book in the bronze cover is one that I picked out at a Barnes and Noble in... well fuck, it was 1998 because we stopped at the book store on the way home from seeing City of Angels (sucked). That would have made me 13. And I think I read up until Kropp and Tjaden are thrown in the chicken wire brigg in my first sitting. An all time favorite book, I have the copy I bought from the coop for Professor Villalon's WWI course sitting on my shelf behind me next to Goodbye to All That and the Guns of August. If they're going to make a book into a movie three times this one is a good one for it, can't wait.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Kudos to Netflix, I want to see this in the theaters,

Having a hell of a time finding it in theaters. Only one in DFW had advanced screenings this wk but can’t find it anywhere else. 

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I’ll watch this. Tremendous book. As an aside, I think a great reading path for WW1 is The War That Ended Peace (followed by The Dreadnought if you can stomach the overlap) > Guns of August > All Quiet On The Western Front (the flavor of trench warfare without the tedious monotony of the non-fiction tellings) > Paris 1919

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I never read the book or watched any of the other movies, but I'm having a hard time paying attention to the story because I'm so entranced by the attention to detail. Little things that most people wouldn't notice like the farmer shooting a black powder gun (because it is 1918 and there were still a lot of black powder guns in use back then) at them when they steal the goose. Somebody deserves an Oscar for all of these little things alone.

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I’ll watch this. Tremendous book. As an aside, I think a great reading path for WW1 is The War That Ended Peace (followed by The Dreadnought if you can stomach the overlap) > Guns of August > All Quiet On The Western Front (the flavor of trench warfare without the tedious monotony of the non-fiction tellings) > Paris 1919

To add to this: The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman. Basically a collection of her studies of the impact of individual and collective stupidity on different events in history. Her chapter on the beginning of WWI is devastating.

Also: Alfred Thayer Mahan . The Influence of Sea Power upon History 1660-1783. This book had tremendous influence on nations with far flung empires and the construction of large modern navies to protect them.
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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Speaking of, that documentary is up on HBO Max.

That film and footage is absolutely incredible. Over a hundred years old, and crystal clear and colorized by historians and archivists and using state of the art tech. It's fucking eerie and otherworldly seeing shells land in the midst of men marching. War is hell

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Loved it. Gorgeous and horrifying. Many deviations from the book, but I think it gave a fresh adaptive take (in lieu of a scene for scene remake of the prior films). My only minor complaint would be the removal of his visit back to town/school, but the director definitely had a particular vision which I think he achieved well.

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It should absolutely win the foreign Oscar, and the regular Best Picture Oscar as well.   I don’t know if I’ll watch it again, but there’s a few history nerds who will do breakdowns of the movie on YouTube, and I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out for them.

My great-grandfather had some somewhat serious PTSD after WWI, and I heard the few stories he told family members (but only family members who went off to WWII, Korea, or Vietnam, he wouldn’t talk to any other family members about it).  

Not to derail, but I really wish that Korea had gotten the kind of treatment WWII did 20 years ago, and that WWI has been getting the past 5 years.

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Some of the baseball dads were talking about this at our tournament today. Sounds grim. There are scenes in Saving Private Ryan that I can’t watch: I’m guessing I might want to skip this? I have seen the original film but never read the book.

Man that looks incredible. Such a waste and they decided to do it again 20 years later. 

Hopefully history isn’t anxious to repeat itself again.
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44 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Some of the baseball dads were talking about this at our tournament today. Sounds grim. There are scenes in Saving Private Ryan that I can’t watch: I’m guessing I might want to skip this? I have seen the original film but never read the book.


Hopefully history isn’t anxious to repeat itself again.

The battle scenes are right up there with SPR, if not even more graphic and somber. Definitely not for young ones.

Great movie though. Sucks that Adolph made it through this carnage.

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53 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Some of the baseball dads were talking about this at our tournament today. Sounds grim. There are scenes in Saving Private Ryan that I can’t watch: I’m guessing I might want to skip this? I have seen the original film but never read the book.


Hopefully history isn’t anxious to repeat itself again.

Yeah there’s some pretty graphic scenes. But as a movie I actually like it more than SPR. I’d recommend watching it

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

It should absolutely win the foreign Oscar, and the regular Best Picture Oscar as well.   I don’t know if I’ll watch it again, but there’s a few history nerds who will do breakdowns of the movie on YouTube, and I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out for them.

My great-grandfather had some somewhat serious PTSD after WWI, and I heard the few stories he told family members (but only family members who went off to WWII, Korea, or Vietnam, he wouldn’t talk to any other family members about it).  

Not to derail, but I really wish that Korea had gotten the kind of treatment WWII did 20 years ago, and that WWI has been getting the past 5 years.

I just saw the preview for a new movie about Corsair pilots in Korea tonight.

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Loved the film.

criticism: I think it requires the viewer to bring knowledge about WWI and/or read the book to really comprehend what is going on. And I understand that movies from books can be a challenge for directors as most hate voiceovers connecting the dots. 

Perhap the expectation is that most Europeans or Americans read the book in school. my high school didn’t teach the book (too anti war?), so my only understanding of the book is the ‘79 TV movie. However I’ve read more than a bit about WWI.

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Did the book have the charge/battle at 10:45?

 

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