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9 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I’m concerned about an acquittal.  He’ll get huge “I just win baby” momentum out of it.  The base will be fired up. 

lol I don’t think that’s in the cards. 

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18 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I’m concerned about an acquittal.  He’ll get huge “I just win baby” momentum out of it.  The base will be fired up. 

Yeah thankfully the criminal trial is going pretty poorly for trumpco. The judge sustained multiple objections against the defense during their opening arguments, and just yesterday were spanked by the judge for being intentionally misleading to the jury. 

That doesn't do great things in a jury trial

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18 hours ago, C-Man said:

So tell me why Rhona Graff was called by the prosecution for a brief time on the stand and is now speaking glowingly of her former boss?

Maybe because they knew the defense would call her and they wanted to control the narrative as best as possible? That’s the only thing I can think of. Steal their thunder maybe 

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I love the drive-by “but I could never vote for Biden.” Why exactly? You disagree with his economic policies? That he kills babies in the 4th trimester? His age? It’s okay to disagree with him but considering the opposition, and the fact that the matchup is already set, and that we’re guaranteed an octogenarian either way, what on earth could possibly justify “both are bad so it doesn’t matter.” The other guy is flat out telling you he’s going to scrap all constitutional norms, and oh by the way is a rapist and criminal. I just don’t get it, at all, the assumption has to be a closet trumpkin.

Duh. SorossocialistcommunistsleepyjoetransbathroomCRT!
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3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I love the drive-by “but I could never vote for Biden.” Why exactly? You disagree with his economic policies? That he kills babies in the 4th trimester? His age? It’s okay to disagree with him but considering the opposition, and the fact that the matchup is already set, and that we’re guaranteed an octogenarian either way, what on earth could possibly justify “both are bad so it doesn’t matter.” The other guy is flat out telling you he’s going to scrap all constitutional norms, and oh by the way is a rapist and criminal. I just don’t get it, at all, the assumption has to be a closet trumpkin.

They are brainwashed. They don’t know any specific policies. They’re lost forever 

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30 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Maybe because they knew the defense would call her and they wanted to control the narrative as best as possible? That’s the only thing I can think of. Steal their thunder maybe 

She was used to establish foundation for later evidence. 

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Yeah thankfully the criminal trial is going pretty poorly for trumpco. The judge sustained multiple objections against the defense during their opening arguments, and just yesterday were spanked by the judge for being intentionally misleading to the jury. 

That doesn't do great things in a jury trial

 

These fucksticks are ready to make sure trumpco comes out fine in the end.

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Maybe because they knew the defense would call her and they wanted to control the narrative as best as possible? That’s the only thing I can think of. Steal their thunder maybe 

Maybe to prove up some documents as business records.

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Seriously, have people really thought about what a cabinet under Trump would look like in a second term? It’s absolutely horrifying. 

Stephen Miller
Dinesh D’Souza
Kash Patel
Junior
Eric
Tim Ballard

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

They will be picked on 2 criteria:

people who will never tell him no

people who can suggest fucked up policies he hasn’t thought of himself 

If the trump wins, the only people who can work for the federal govt are people who pledge their loyalty towards Trump. This will go beyond the cabinet. I seriously believe that it will be anyone who has decision power in the federal govt.  sure, a mail carrier won’t have to make a pledge but any mgmt level will.

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4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

You either support democracy or you do not. If you don’t vote for, you’re against. There’s no both sides bullshit on this one. 

We ArEn't a DEMocracY LibTAARD!!11  IT's A coNStiTuTionAL RePUbLIC  huurrrr durrr

 

 

I see this stupid talking point almost every fucking day. No, they don't support democracy.

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Yeah thankfully the criminal trial is going pretty poorly for trumpco. The judge sustained multiple objections against the defense during their opening arguments, and just yesterday were spanked by the judge for being intentionally misleading to the jury. 

That doesn't do great things in a jury trial

Really too early to say.  

Remember, this is the prosecution's case-in-chief.  This is the good guys' story.  And it doesn't really sound like Trumpco is making a lot of dents in it on cross.  But we haven't got to Cohen, yet.  Sounds like Bove, at least, is a pretty skilled examiner.  They may really butcher Cohen.

In a normal trial, at least, things don't look so rosy during the defense's case-in-chief.  However, Trump world people are just full of shit and don't seem to make a good case, so maybe not.

We'll see.

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I really don’t see how they impeach Cohen’s testimony. He basically went to jail for the things his is testifying about. Is anyone really going to believe he didn’t do all of that at Trump’s behest? 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Really too early to say.  

Remember, this is the prosecution's case-in-chief.  This is the good guys' story.  And it doesn't really sound like Trumpco is making a lot of dents in it on cross.  But we haven't got to Cohen, yet.  Sounds like Bove, at least, is a pretty skilled examiner.  They may really butcher Cohen.

In a normal trial, at least, things don't look so rosy during the defense's case-in-chief.  However, Trump world people are just full of shit and don't seem to make a good case, so maybe not.

We'll see.

All very true.  But I have to think the cross examinations where they misled the jury about some of the documents is going to leave a mark.   When the jury figures out you are flat trying to mislead them on easily disapproval lies, they tend to remember that.   

The biggest problem they have is that Cohen is really a moron, and his anger at Trump will likely lead him to exaggerate and deny things that he shouldn’t.    If I did his direct, I would simply have him identify the documents and corroborate exactly the testimony of pecker.    

Every time they cross him on false statements he previously made he needs to reply with two canned statements after agreeing: 1) “Don’t believe me now? Then look at the documents and see the fact that once Trump got elected nobody cared anymore”, and 2) “ lying at Trump’s direction made me a convicted felon - so I can’t say I did not lie…. But do you really think a lawyer taking out a HELOC loan for his client to pay a porn star is a normal business transaction not related to his election chances?”

But I doubt he will be able to do that. 

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2 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

We ArEn't a DEMocracY LibTAARD!!11  IT's A coNStiTuTionAL RePUbLIC  huurrrr durrr

 

 

I see this stupid talking point almost every fucking day. No, they don't support democracy.

I thought we were an autonomous collective.

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

I love the drive-by “but I could never vote for Biden.” Why exactly? You disagree with his economic policies? That he kills babies in the 4th trimester? His age? It’s okay to disagree with him but considering the opposition, and the fact that the matchup is already set, and that we’re guaranteed an octogenarian either way, what on earth could possibly justify “both are bad so it doesn’t matter.” The other guy is flat out telling you he’s going to scrap all constitutional norms, and oh by the way is a rapist and criminal. I just don’t get it, at all, the assumption has to be a closet trumpkin.

He supports Trump. He’s just afraid to admit it because Trump is a piece of shit whom no decent person supports. 

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Good opinion piece: https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-supreme-court-just-showed-184314188.html. Excerpts below: 

I have badly underestimated Donald Trump. Thursday was the day that his justices — it turns out that they are indeed his justices on the Supreme Court, just as he claimed — got it through my thick head: Trump is not just competent but masterful. He is not just capable, he is supreme.

Crime is a largely private endeavor. Corruption is public. It seeps into the muscle and sinew of democratic society and institutions; it devours from within. The Supreme Court, drunk on arrogated power, cut loose from rudimentary ethics, has been eaten alive by it. But the court is just one plot of a vast terrain that Trump has conquered — not with crime, but corruption.

Crime is when you launch a violent attempt to overthrow the republic. Corruption is when you convince an entire political party to pretend they didn’t watch it live on television, or cower from it inside the Capitol while dozens of police officers were being bludgeoned by the mob.

Crime is when you make off with top-secret documents. Corruption is when a MAGA judge can’t find time to schedule your trial, or process the mountainous evidence of your guilt.

Crime is when your lawyers tell the Senate not to convict you in an impeachment trial because you can be charged in court. Corruption is when your lawyers inform the Supreme Court that you are immune from criminal courts and only the Senate can judge you — but, alas, the senators have missed their window.

But it was the Republican Supreme Court — mostly men again — that put the shiv a little deeper in democracy’s back this week. Originalists or textualists, all sounded more or less Trumpist as they seriously entertained Trump’s argument that his assaults on the constitutional order are protected by the Constitution itself. There is no way to make honest sense of such a liar’s mash. But Larry, Moe and Curly aren’t just chairing committees in Congress. They wear robes and furrowed brows now, too. And they seem eager to pretend that crimes are just constitutional exercises of power, and that one ex-president is a king.

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I have badly underestimated Donald Trump. Thursday was the day that his justices — it turns out that they are indeed his justices on the Supreme Court, just as he claimed — got it through my thick head: Trump is not just competent but masterful. He is not just capable, he is supreme.

Because Trump is clumsy at his alleged crimes, surrounding himself with flagrant thugs, telling obvious lies, leaving prolific trails of damning evidence, offering ridiculous defenses for indefensible conduct, I had long concluded that he is incompetent at crookery along with his other manifest failings. That’s true as far as it goes. But for all his mad greed and compulsive lawlessness, for all his sleaze and stupidity, crime is ultimately not Trump’s game. Trump is nothing like a master criminal. But he is a master of something far more sinister and complex: corruption.

Crime is a largely private endeavor. Corruption is public. It seeps into the muscle and sinew of democratic society and institutions; it devours from within. The Supreme Court, drunk on arrogated power, cut loose from rudimentary ethics, has been eaten alive by it. But the court is just one plot of a vast terrain that Trump has conquered — not with crime, but corruption.

Crime is when you launch a violent attempt to overthrow the republic. Corruption is when you convince an entire political party to pretend they didn’t watch it live on television, or cower from it inside the Capitol while dozens of police officers were being bludgeoned by the mob.

Crime is when you make off with top-secret documents. Corruption is when a MAGA judge can’t find time to schedule your trial, or process the mountainous evidence of your guilt.

Crime is when a U.S. resident is murdered and dismembered by Saudi hit men. Corruption is when the all but acknowledged killer invests $2 billion in your talentless son-in-law’s fund, which other investors shun.

Crime is when you fake business expenses to cover up a payoff to an adult film actress who wants to cash in on your campaign for president. Corruption is when the head of the nation’s greasiest tabloid, a perpetual fount of lies and nonsense, expresses concern that your deeds are too sleazy for him.

Crime is when your lawyers tell the Senate not to convict you in an impeachment trial because you can be charged in court. Corruption is when your lawyers inform the Supreme Court that you are immune from criminal courts and only the Senate can judge you — but, alas, the senators have missed their window.

Trump has already succeeded at corrupting much of what’s corruptible. Government. Elections. Foreign policy. Democracy. Religion. Above all, people, and mostly men. Truckloads, boatloads, tiki-torch-parade-loads, courtloads of weak men all standing in the shadow that Trump casts.

The Republican Party has been corrupted absolutely. House Republicans have combined McCarthyism with Larry, Moe and Curlyism to twist Congress to comically corrupt ends — all to serve the greater degeneracy of Trump. In the Senate, the young hyenas, Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), study Trump’s demagogy and lick their chops, hoping for a turn at democracy’s carcass.

The establishment has utterly caved. Former Atty. Gen. William Barr’s endorsement of Trump this week, after having called Trump unfit, a psychologically damaged incompetent who cares only about himself, was barely newsworthy. What is Barr but another in the long line of weak men, one more debased Republican offering fealty to the grease king? Trump thanked Barr by humiliating him again.

But it was the Republican Supreme Court — mostly men again — that put the shiv a little deeper in democracy’s back this week. Originalists or textualists, all sounded more or less Trumpist as they seriously entertained Trump’s argument that his assaults on the constitutional order are protected by the Constitution itself. There is no way to make honest sense of such a liar’s mash. But Larry, Moe and Curly aren’t just chairing committees in Congress. They wear robes and furrowed brows now, too. And they seem eager to pretend that crimes are just constitutional exercises of power, and that one ex-president is a king.

Richard Nixon, a self-made, and self-corrupted, man who studied geopolitics and government assiduously, never achieved such a broad subjugation of American values and institutions. Trump, the ignorant, n’er-do-well heir to his father’s crooked fortune, has achieved so much more. Trump hasn’t just captured the trenches of conservative America, he has taken the commanding heights. He owns all of it, from the most racist backwater saloon to the Federalist Society clubhouse. They are his corrupted subjects. He is their corrupt and demented king. If he can somehow get through the next few perilous months, he may yet render corruption sacred, and the republic irredeemable.

Francis Wilkinson is a columnist for Bloomberg Opinion. @fdwilkinson

 

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4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If the trump wins, the only people who can work for the federal govt are people who pledge their loyalty towards Trump. This will go beyond the cabinet. I seriously believe that it will be anyone who has decision power in the federal govt.  sure, a mail carrier won’t have to make a pledge but any mgmt level will.

If they're pressing teachers, and pressed mgmt to ferret out insubordinate government employees previously under Trump, they def will demand from the mail carrier that he swear fealty.  It was the regular employees that helped uncover DeJoy dismantling postal machines during the last election.  And why is he still Postmaster General?  

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4 hours ago, C-Man said:


Stephen Miller
Dinesh D’Souza
Kash Patel
Junior
Eric
Tim Ballard

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 Shitheals that all need serious foot dentistry.  Miller's weak neck would make a nice tetherball rope for his head.  

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6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If the trump wins, the only people who can work for the federal govt are people who pledge their loyalty towards Trump. This will go beyond the cabinet. I seriously believe that it will be anyone who has decision power in the federal govt.  sure, a mail carrier won’t have to make a pledge but any mgmt level will.

They've already said that's what they are going to do.  Trump wants to gut the civil service jobs and require fealty from all sorts of jobs.  

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10 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I’m concerned about an acquittal.  He’ll get huge “I just win baby” momentum out of it.  The base will be fired up. 

The problem with an acquittal is that he then goes to the next court case.

He fucked around an awful lot, and still has a lot of finding out left to do.

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7 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

There is no world in which Biden is more addlepated than Trump.  I don't understand how this isn't blindingly obvious to everyone.

i had to look up what "addlepated" meant before I liked this post

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4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I thought we were an autonomous collective.

You’re fooling yourself. We’re living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes–

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13 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

i had to look up what "addlepated" meant before I liked this post

I figured the term was used to be describe how Trump walks down ramps.  Or something regarding pudding.  

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13 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

We ArEn't a DEMocracY LibTAARD!!11  IT's A coNStiTuTionAL RePUbLIC  huurrrr durrr

I see this stupid talking point almost every fucking day. No, they don't support democracy.

"BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that we... oppose legislation which makes our nation more "democratic" in nature, and that, while we favor and encourage liberty in all 30 nations, we oppose all efforts to use American military might to spread "democracy" around the world."

Your Washington State Republican party, folks...
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/the-wa-gop-put-it-in-writing-that-theyre-not-into-democracy/

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Take the amount of coke Ellis had in his beard/nostrils in "Die Hard" and add another gram-and-a-half and that's about how much I saw in Don, Jr.'s beard the time i met him in Austin. 

What were we talking about?  Oh yeah..........."As a student of the Constitution", let me learn you something.  The next MAGA worshipper that can tell me why Article I & II are about what they're about and why they're numbered that way, will be the first.  It's all there, the lead branch of Government in a Democracy is the duly-elected Legislature.  Not a Dictator, not even a President.  But then, that would presume these  people can even count to 2.  And that's not a given these days.     

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On 4/27/2024 at 10:12 AM, Sawbonz said:

Maybe because they knew the defense would call her and they wanted to control the narrative as best as possible? That’s the only thing I can think of. Steal their thunder maybe 

He doesn't use email so her computer is his link to Stormy and Karen.  They printed their Outlook contact cards and entered them as evidence.  

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Take the amount of coke Ellis had in his beard/nostrils in "Die Hard" and add another gram-and-a-half and that's about how much I saw in Don, Jr.'s beard the time i met him in Austin. 
What were we talking about?  Oh yeah..........."As a student of the Constitution", let me learn you something.  The next MAGA worshipper that can tell me why Article I & II are about what they're about and why they're numbered that way, will be the first.  It's all there, the lead branch of Government in a Democracy is the duly-elected Legislature.  Not a Dictator, not even a President.  But then, that would presume these  people can even count to 2.  And that's not a given these days.     

Just remember that the more stridently someone says they’re a “CONSTITUTIONALIST _______,” the more they actually oppose the core requirements and terms of the actual Constitution. It’s fucking comical, and like clockwork.
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He could drop dead in the middle of 5th avenue this summer and not lose any votes.  Some will vote for him in tribute, others because they won’t believe his death.  Ratio?  Who knows. 
And some just can't vote for the Dem... they just can't!
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22 minutes ago, tchookem said:

And some just can't vote for the Dem... they just can't!

And not just any Dem, the most boring, milquetoast, pretty mainstream Dem that basically exists.

It’s not Bernie/Warren/AOC 

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Made this for my daughter's roommate who, (as some of you know) works at the law firm who prosecuted the case for E. Jean Carroll ad contributed on both cases. 

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On 4/27/2024 at 7:32 AM, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

I’m concerned about an acquittal.  He’ll get huge “I just win baby” momentum out of it.  The base will be fired up. 

Trump voters are locked in already. This election will be about how the normals turn out. 

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