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5 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

the most concerning number there is the 74.2 million. the fuck are 11.2 million MORE people voting for trump after his disaster of a term? i get a ferw more here and there and covid was a major complicating factor that made people a little bit woowoo about shit, but that rings alarm bells for me. maybe they are the ones doing the voter fraud.

Look at everybody that you know that voted for Trump in 2020, and look at data online to see if they were voting in 2016 (it may not tell you exactly what party they voted for, but in some cases you can see what primaries they voted in, etc.). I know quite a few people that didn't vote in 2016 for various reasons, who got out and voted in 2020. Trump tapped into plenty of apathetic incel types, and had plenty of votes from people in states who didn't vote in 2016 because they thought the (R) candidate would be safe, and they got a little spooked in 2020. 

4 hours ago, linux said:

That was the rubicon, when his first indictment came and everybody stayed at home it gave the other DAs courage to go all the way.

I think that will be reflected in 2024 (assuming he is the nominee) - we've had four indictments (or indications) and no mass protests.  If they won't get off their asses over the indictments, I wonder if they will bother showing up to vote (especially if they think their state is safe or if they think Biden has it won no matter what).

And therein lies some of the irony - with these indictments (indications), Trump and his supporters have spent so much time on the airwaves and social media claiming that the election was stolen and that the Deep State, etc. controls who wins, that not only has hurt Trump in these indictments (indications), but a shitload of his followers believe that their votes won't matter if it's rigged by riggers. They won't even bother showing up.

Although it would be beautiful if Trump ended up in court and somehow admitted under oath that the elections weren't stolen but that his First Amendment rights meant he was allowed to say they were.

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Look at everybody that you know that voted for Trump in 2020, and look at data online to see if they were voting in 2016 (it may not tell you exactly what party they voted for, but in some cases you can see what primaries they voted in, etc.). I know quite a few people that didn't vote in 2016 for various reasons, who got out and voted in 2020. Trump tapped into plenty of apathetic incel types, and had plenty of votes from people in states who didn't vote in 2016 because they thought the (R) candidate would be safe, and they got a little spooked in 2020. 

I think that will be reflected in 2024 (assuming he is the nominee) - we've had four indictments (or indications) and no mass protests.  If they won't get off their asses over the indictments, I wonder if they will bother showing up to vote (especially if they think their state is safe or if they think Biden has it won no matter what).

And therein lies some of the irony - with these indictments (indications), Trump and his supporters have spent so much time on the airwaves and social media claiming that the election was stolen and that the Deep State, etc. controls who wins, that not only has hurt Trump in these indictments (indications), but a shitload of his followers believe that their votes won't matter if it's rigged by riggers. They won't even bother showing up.

Although it would be beautiful if Trump ended up in court and somehow admitted under oath that the elections weren't stolen but that his First Amendment rights meant he was allowed to say they were.

It has been my experience that they do not, they are already planning to vote by mail after swearing it off in 2022. It is not facts that drive's them it is negative emotions that do.

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fuck I'm an architect and I have never heard of those. come to think of it I don't know anyone morbidly obese. that does answer some questions, though
I'm not sure I've ever installed anything other than elongated bowl. Super common. Old school round bowls are tiny. Commercial project are all elongated and typically ADA hieght (called comfort hieght in Residential)

To bring toilet talk full circle, if a toilet drain hits a floor truss, you have to get an engineer to sign of on modifying the truss, and that's sucks more than round toilets. Or have the toilet absurdly far from the wall. Engineers man.
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9 minutes ago, linux said:

It has been my experience that they do not, they are already planning to vote by mail after swearing it off in 2022. It is not facts that drive's them it is negative emotions that do.

They aren't bothering to show up at any of his indictments, so yeah, they may literally mail it in, but it won't matter in the states that flipped from (R) to (D) in 2020 - those states aren't coming back for Trump, and these indictments/indications aren't helping him at all amongst the moderate/independents that went to Biden. In fact, all of these indictments are reinforcing the decisions made by the people who voted against Trump in 2020 (who didn't vote in 2016 or were luke warm about Hillary) as well as the people who switched to Biden.

It'll be more for the debate gameday thread next week, but if the indictments come up in a big way during the debate (as in questions from the moderator(s)), that will be very telling.

I kind of wonder if the Georgia indications/indictments this week will make Trump show up at the debates next week in order to push his bullshit on a bigger stage than his 4 million bots and 1 million human followers on truth.social.

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2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

How exactly does someone like Roger Stone pay his bills?   Does he earn an income from Trump's PAC?   Did Nixon leave him some coin?   How?

He gets a royalty check every time anyone in the world says “lock her up” and “benghazi”

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58 minutes ago, tx ind said:

what's with the shaking hands?  

that is an absolute, definite tell-tale sign of alcohol/drug withdrawal.  He told himself to dry out 72 hours before  deposition and did so, but that's what the last 18 hours of a 3-day cleanse look like.  

That are we are now talking toilets and liters per flush means we're the best country on earth.  Your next shit is real.  Your next thought is a result of the simulation.  This is absolutely fucking amazing.  

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indict him 4 times or 10 or 45 times, he ALWAYS wiggles out of it.  Can't find 12-0 anywhere, sympathizer will exist anywhere.  Let's face reality -- Covid KO'd Trump in 2020 and the Inflation monster will KO Biden , not to mention the absolute idiocy of liberals to rarely defend him - in the manner they always defended Obama.  America survived 2017-20 and will survive 2025-2028. 

I think the jury's still out on how well we survived 2017-2020
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6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

They aren't bothering to show up at any of his indictments, so yeah, they may literally mail it in, but it won't matter in the states that flipped from (R) to (D) in 2020 - those states aren't coming back for Trump, and these indictments/indications aren't helping him at all amongst the moderate/independents that went to Biden. In fact, all of these indictments are reinforcing the decisions made by the people who voted against Trump in 2020 (who didn't vote in 2016 or were luke warm about Hillary) as well as the people who switched to Biden.

It'll be more for the debate gameday thread next week, but if the indictments come up in a big way during the debate (as in questions from the moderator(s)), that will be very telling.

I kind of wonder if the Georgia indications/indictments this week will make Trump show up at the debates next week in order to push his bullshit on a bigger stage than his 4 million bots and 1 million human followers on truth.social.

I am definitely bullish on 2024 for the Democratic nominee. Trump has a ceiling, around 46%, all that matters is democratic turnout, which is why we have to act and persuade people as if it were 50/50 and the most important election on earth, 2020 part 2.

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11 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I'm not sure I've ever installed anything other than elongated bowl. Super common. Old school round bowls are tiny. Commercial project are all elongated and typically ADA hieght (called comfort hieght in Residential)

To bring toilet talk full circle, if a toilet drain hits a floor truss, you have to get an engineer to sign of on modifying the truss, and that's sucks more than round toilets. Or have the toilet absurdly far from the wall. Engineers man.

What's the problem?

 

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29 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

I'm not sure I've ever installed anything other than elongated bowl. Super common. Old school round bowls are tiny. Commercial project are all elongated and typically ADA hieght (called comfort hieght in Residential)

I had a fart toilet installed in my house:

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The first guy at the debate  (probably Christie since Hurd and Hutchison probably don’t make it) that does the “Yeah, Trump deserves to die, and I hope he burns in hell!” take at the debate will get a 5-10 point bump.  That person still won’t come with 20 points of Trump.  But I think someone that comes out aggressive and shames the others tip toeing around the indictments consolidates some of the polling.  
 

I just hope it happens for the entertainment value. 

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For reference - W’s groundbreaking was 2010, Obama’s was 2021 (thanks COVID), Clinton 2001, HW Bush 1994
Guessing he’s still extorting potential locations for how much of a cut he will get from the library 

The library is still way far out on the product roadmap. I’m thinking MAGA Inc. has that pencilled in as a posthumous grift.
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First off, can you take the plumbing talk to the toilet thread?

Second, let's go back to the discussion of his presidential library.  Let's be real.. how big would it really have to be anyway? There's only so many Highlights magazines and.dot-to-dot books out there.

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I imagine they already have some sort crowdsourcing grift cooked up.

"For a one-time* Donation of $3000, you'll receive an Official, Individually Numbered, Donald Trump Presidential Library Collector's Plate and Certificate proudly Recognizing your Home as an Official Wing of the Donald Trump Presidential Library."

* - one time, two times, whatever

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7 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

the most concerning number there is the 74.2 million. the fuck are 11.2 million MORE people voting for trump after his disaster of a term? i get a ferw more here and there and covid was a major complicating factor that made people a little bit woowoo about shit, but that rings alarm bells for me. maybe they are the ones doing the voter fraud.

Because Joe Biden is an extremist socialist who will nationalize your business, take away our guns and make everyone get abortions! Except for all the illegals he lets across the border! 

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2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

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And they’ve put in very strong penalties, and their penalties are really strong. You want to talk about penalties? Those are strict. (Laughter.) And their court cases go slightly quicker than ours. (Laughter.) Like — like one day. One day. They call them “quick trials.” They go quick. (Laughter.) They go so quick, you don’t know what happened. (Laughter.) Ours take 15 years; theirs takes one day. But he was — he’s been terrific on that. And we’re seeing a tremendous — a tremendous difference in the fentanyl.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/2/10/21131863/trump-china-executions-drug-dealers

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21 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

He sounded the exact same he's sounded for the last several years.

Agreed. This is why I never understand the "Oh, he's scared" or "He's lost it" after he posts a deranged tweet/x/truth/whatever. It's the exact same shit he's been posting for seven years now.

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1 hour ago, texasdago said:

First off, can you take the plumbing talk to the toilet thread?

Second, let's go back to the discussion of his presidential library.  Let's be real.. how big would it really have to be anyway? There's only so many Highlights magazines and.dot-to-dot books out there.

What kind of toilets do you think they will install in his presidential library?

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1 hour ago, texasdago said:

First off, can you take the plumbing talk to the toilet thread?

Unless I missed the joke, that's more of a structural support issue than a plumbing issue.  Toilets are heavy, water is heavy, people are heavy, and what little remains of that joist will break pretty quick.

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

i hope overwhelming evidence comes out that the election actually was rigged and stolen from him and he dies like 45 minutes later.

We know it didn't, but if it did, I'd fucking laugh and tell all the MAGA types I know "yeah, it was Deep State motherfuckers, all that George Soros money, but no, you didn't get actually believe Trump because you wouldn't get off your ass and out in the street and defend Trump when he kept asking you to, when he kept saying that if he was indicated, people would stage the largest protests in the largest streets to defend him.  No, you sat at home and whined on Free Republic or TexAgs or Facebook. Trump told you that the riggers were going to steal the election, and you just sat on your fat asses and whined through your keyboard instead of standing up for Trump. You failed him, you should be ashamed, here, let me pull up all of the Facebook posts where you talked about standing with Trump, but in the end, you didn't and you and all of the other MAGAs let the riggers steal the election from Trump. Pathetic."

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Unless I missed the joke, that's more of a structural support issue than a plumbing issue.  Toilets are heavy, water is heavy, people are heavy, and what little remains of that joist will break pretty quick.

We know it didn't, but if it did, I'd fucking laugh and tell all the MAGA types I know "yeah, it was Deep State motherfuckers, all that George Soros money, but no, you didn't get actually believe Trump because you wouldn't get off your ass and out in the street and defend Trump when he kept asking you to, when he kept saying that if he was indicated, people would stage the largest protests in the largest streets to defend him.  No, you sat at home and whined on Free Republic or TexAgs or Facebook. Trump told you that the riggers were going to steal the election, and you just sat on your fat asses and whined through your keyboard instead of standing up for Trump. You failed him, you should be ashamed, here, let me pull up all of the Facebook posts where you talked about standing with Trump, but in the end, you didn't and you and all of the other MAGAs let the riggers steal the election from Trump. Pathetic."

“You should probably commit seppuku in his honor”

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33 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I should go on a bank robbery spree and if / when I get caught declare my candidacy for President... in the 2060 election.  Sorry fuckers, I can't go to trial until 2062 at the earliest.

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18 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

  One man cannot stop the train. 

Baller Wow GIF by Back to the Future Trilogy

 

Train has been off the rails for sometime now.   We're witnessing the decline of the empire, and he and his ilk are rather significant symptoms.  Getting some gallow's humor out of him getting some comeuppance can be a joy.

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