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Tourist Trip to Titanic Terribly Turns Tragic


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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

 

Sidenote, this has gotta be a point for the "we're in a simulation" crowd right? The fucking company is named "OceanGate" like some goddamn easy bake news headline

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Pretty solid overview video from a 20yr USN nuclear sub sonar operator

Not many lulz, but super informative for the ins and outs and whathaveyous for design, construction, and safety of this boondoggle. 

Sidenote, this has gotta be a point for the "we're in a simulation" crowd right? The fucking company is named "OceanGate" like some goddamn easy bake news headline

Damn good video put together by the SME "white dude" .....😝 (and yes, the perfect example of a 20 yr sonar operator)

Sounds like a Comedy of errors by the arrogant rich dude. Carbon fiber hull? No thread jack but back when I was bike racing, you couldn't pay me to ride a carbon frame due to the possibility of them exploding.....Fast forward, Let's build a carbon fiber sub.  Get in! And let's take it down to 4000 meters!!! What could go wrong?

3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

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3 hours ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Relax, Jonesy, you sold me. 

Well done 👆

 

Just started following the thread last night and wasn't about to read all, so NSIAP, but this is the perfect thread for THFRO pics and gifs....

Just a theory but, they haven't been found due the banging. Now if you watched and studied the movie....

 

 

 

Said to the CEO b4 they imploded during the descent or catching fire due to O2 buildup.....

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Oh I get it.  People are way more interested in the hubris of some billionaires who FAFO'd than the desperate struggle of the downtrodden.  WAY more world resources looking for those dudes.

Also, Titanic. Anything associated with it gets eyeballs. Thank Leonardo and Kate. 

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17 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

I don't think there are any funny  memes to be posted about the truly tragic shit that goes on - there is a multi-page thread buried somewhere about MH-370 if you are lookin for something. I haven't looked, but did you start a thread about the migrants boat disaster?

Lighten up Francis 
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Yeah, sorry for not….making fun of desperately poor people who died trying to improve their family’s future? 
 

 

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52 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Oh I get it.  People are way more interested in the hubris of some billionaires who FAFO'd than the desperate struggle of the downtrodden.  WAY more world resources looking for those dudes.

Everyone knows exactly what happened and the Greeks launched an S&R mission, rescuing hundreds. The boar sank on June 13. One week later, there’s no one left alive who went in the water. What resources should be put into it? 

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24 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am kind of obsessed with this story, and I also like to curate shitty takes. Is this this the shittiest? I think it is:

I thought about why this is a shitty take. Cause if this had been just some guy who had single-mindedly pursed a voyage to the Titanic before anyone else and spent his life-savings and he’d died in his sub jalopy, I’d praise him for having balls. Maybe dumb, but ballsy and very much in the “because it’s there” spirit. 

But to boldly go where others have gone, and charge people for the privilege while cutting corners with safety ain’t ballsy, it’s grifting. And you can’t buy balls for $250k. So just like Lance Bass was never going to be an astronaut, he was just going to be a boy band singer who paid a crumbling Russia so he could pretend— paying for your seat on this thing doesn’t make you an underwater explorer. 

This doesn't even make the Top 1,000 of Matt Walsh's bad takes.    He's a real ass.

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Yeah, sorry for not….making fun of desperately poor people who died trying to improve their family’s future? 
 

 

No women or children survived that accident. Only men survived. Not sure they gave that much of a shit about their families. 

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30 minutes ago, Tylerocks said:

I mean, what the fuck are they going to do even if they find it?

How would you recover something from that depth?

I saw a spokesperson from the search effort say they would address that problem after they locate the sub. I have to assume there are people giving some thought to the possible solutions already. It seems like waiting until you locate them might be too late to start planning the rescue. But I don’t know what technology we have to rescue them from the bottom of the ocean 2.5 miles deep even if we located them right now at this very moment. 

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12 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

This doesn't even make the Top 1,000 of Matt Walsh's bad takes.    He's a real ass.

Absolutely and it’s no surprise that he came up with it. I can live with “even rich people who make terrible decisions deserve empathy.” 
 

But it takes Matt Walsh to come up with “these rich people making bad decisions are braver and better than you.” 

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Sure it’s been posted already, but I read this morning that even if they’re somehow on the surface they’ll still run out of oxygen because the sub can only be opened from the outside. Seems like a design flaw that there isn’t some sort of explosive vent hatch

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1 minute ago, GoPokes83 said:

Sure it’s been posted already, but I read this morning that even if they’re somehow on the surface they’ll still run out of oxygen because the sun can only be opened from the outside. Seems like a design flaw that there isn’t some sort of exploring vent hatch

Design flaw #3,682.  

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8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I saw a spokesperson from the search effort say they would address that problem after they locate the sub. I have to assume there are people giving some thought to the possible solutions already. It seems like waiting until you locate them might be too late to start planning the rescue. But I don’t know what technology we have to rescue them from the bottom of the ocean 2.5 miles deep even if we located them right now at this very moment. 

There are a few submersibles that have made the trip to the bottom of the Mariana Trench that also have manipulator arms. It might be possible to mount some sort of spool on one and run a tether up to the surface. They'd be dead by then for sure, but it would be a cool project to see if it is possible.

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44 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am kind of obsessed with this story, and I also like to curate shitty takes. Is this this the shittiest? I think it is:

I thought about why this is a shitty take. Cause if this had been just some guy who had single-mindedly pursed a voyage to the Titanic before anyone else and spent his life-savings and he’d died in his sub jalopy, I’d praise him for having balls. Maybe dumb, but ballsy and very much in the “because it’s there” spirit. 

But to boldly go where others have gone, and charge people for the privilege while cutting corners with safety ain’t ballsy, it’s grifting. And you can’t buy balls for $250k. So just like Lance Bass was never going to be an astronaut, he was just going to be a boy band singer who paid a crumbling Russia so he could pretend— paying for your seat on this thing doesn’t make you an underwater explorer. 

 

19 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

This doesn't even make the Top 1,000 of Matt Walsh's bad takes.    He's a real ass.

Was just gonna say this. He's the worst.

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6 minutes ago, GoPokes83 said:

Sure it’s been posted already, but I read this morning that even if they’re somehow on the surface they’ll still run out of oxygen because the sub can only be opened from the outside. Seems like a design flaw that there isn’t some sort of explosive vent hatch

That’s a myth

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7 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

There are a few submersibles that have made the trip to the bottom of the Mariana Trench that also have manipulator arms. It might be possible to mount some sort of spool on one and run a tether up to the surface. They'd be dead by then for sure, but it would be a cool project to see if it is possible.

One of the guys on the sub actually went to the Mariana Trench in a different sub. I can’t believe he saw the Titanic one after that and said sign me up.

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47 minutes ago, Tylerocks said:

I mean, what the fuck are they going to do even if they find it?

How would you recover something from that depth?

The only way anyone would ever find it is if it went fairly straight down from where they lost contact. If it drifted even a little then there's probably no way anyone discovers it.

But, there are people discovering shipwrecks at even greater depths. The thing is, those navy ships are huge and we also know exactly where they sank. 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/worlds-deepest-shipwreck-discovered-four-miles-underwater-in-the-philippines-180980322/#:~:text=The U.S.S.,found%2C per the Associated Press.

 

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25 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

IF you got to choose, how high would your chances of rescue need to be to risk otherwise dying in a vessel gradually filling with piss, shit and panic VS instantaneous death from hull failure or whatever?

It would have to be pretty high chance of rescue for me, that sweet release of getting instantly turned into pink mist sounds like a much better way to go than agonizing for days as you slowly suffocate/shit/piss in a tiny tube.

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12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

The only way anyone would ever find it is if it went fairly straight down from where they lost contact. If it drifted even a little then there's probably no way anyone discovers it.

But, there are people discovering shipwrecks at even greater depths. The thing is, those navy ships are huge and we also know exactly where they sank. 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/worlds-deepest-shipwreck-discovered-four-miles-underwater-in-the-philippines-180980322/#:~:text=The U.S.S.,found%2C per the Associated Press.

 

Finding a shipwreck is far different than this.  We've just recently been finding WWII carriers and battleships.    This tin can was 22x9x8.   

For reference:

The deepest wreck ever found was the U.S.S. Samuel B. Roberts.  She was a Destroyer Escort and one of those tasked with protecting Taffy 3's escort carriers when Halsey went off  on his wild goose chase.  She sank in 22,000 feet of water.   It was pretty well known where she was by position reports and it still took 77 years to find her.   

She was 306 feet in length (a football field) and assuming some of her bridge still remained after the battle and is sitting upright, she'd be between 40-50 feet in height.   

They aren't going to find the Oceangate for a while.  

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So the supposed 30 minute interval sounds.. taps on the hull or whatever...  Surely they would know whether they are coming from a surface vessel or one stuck 2 miles underwater even if they couldn't triangulate the actual position??  The titan had multiple ways to rise to the surface given a power failure.  Are they truly stuck inside the actual ship without the ability to rise?  or are rescue crews thinking theyre bobbing like a damn cork on the surface?  I'll hang up and listen....

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3 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

I'll just leave this here, and no CR, but a whole boatload of folks went down in the Mediterranean, and I didn't notice a 10-page thread on that incident.  Just a comment on what we as a people want to focus on.

Yeah, because these shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Those shenanigans are cruel and tragic.

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IF you got to choose, how high would your chances of rescue need to be to risk otherwise dying in a vessel gradually filling with piss, shit and panic VS instantaneous death from hull failure or whatever?

1) instantaneous death

2) rot on bottom of Atlantic

3) float to top but perish from CO2 poisoning and unable to get out because you have to be unlocked from the outside and your white vessel blends in with the White waves of the sea while you hear aircraft overhead flying over you
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