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Kerrville’s Founder’s Tree cut down. It was too damn big.


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First, I thought that was illegal. Second, they made the property less valuable… Unless the hotel sale was conditioned on first removing the tree (which would make sense, because any new business wouldn’t want the negative backlash it would get by cutting it down themselves. But most importantly, aren’t there ways to move trees like that? With how much it’s worth, I woulda thought somebody would be happy to do it for free, or at least relatively cheaply. Those people suck.

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Don't y'all know tree ordinances are an assault on our freedoms?!

But HB 7, unlike SB 744, says municipalities can't charge homeowners fees for removing trees that are under 10 inches in diameter. It also more specifically stipulates who can offset fees, and by how much: homeowners can entirely eliminate fees by planting new trees, while residential developers can offset 50 percent of fees and owners of commercial properties can offset them by at least 40 percent.

Abbott — who himself ran into tree trouble several years ago when the city of Austin asked him to replant trees on his property — has railed against city tree ordinances as a "socialistic" evidence of local government overreach. Regulation of tree removal was one on a slate of local control issues Abbott put on the agenda for the special session that ended on Tuesday.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/16/abbott-signs-bill-regulating-tree-removal/

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That is a beautiful oak tree. Any developer worth a shit would feature that oak tree in it's landscaping and building design. What a fucking waste.

3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Don't y'all know tree ordinances are an assault on our freedoms?!

But HB 7, unlike SB 744, says municipalities can't charge homeowners fees for removing trees that are under 10 inches in diameter. It also more specifically stipulates who can offset fees, and by how much: homeowners can entirely eliminate fees by planting new trees, while residential developers can offset 50 percent of fees and owners of commercial properties can offset them by at least 40 percent.

Abbott — who himself ran into tree trouble several years ago when the city of Austin asked him to replant trees on his property — has railed against city tree ordinances as a "socialistic" evidence of local government overreach. Regulation of tree removal was one on a slate of local control issues Abbott put on the agenda for the special session that ended on Tuesday.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/16/abbott-signs-bill-regulating-tree-removal/

fuck hotwheels. 

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Just now, hayden_horn said:

ok, jokes aside, this is fucking tragic. how on earth could this have happened? the fucking founder's tree in kerrville? how is that not somehow a protected tree?

Probably cause everyone thought only a fucking idiot would cut down that tree. And yet here we are. 

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23 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Don't y'all know tree ordinances are an assault on our freedoms?!

But HB 7, unlike SB 744, says municipalities can't charge homeowners fees for removing trees that are under 10 inches in diameter. It also more specifically stipulates who can offset fees, and by how much: homeowners can entirely eliminate fees by planting new trees, while residential developers can offset 50 percent of fees and owners of commercial properties can offset them by at least 40 percent.

Abbott — who himself ran into tree trouble several years ago when the city of Austin asked him to replant trees on his property — has railed against city tree ordinances as a "socialistic" evidence of local government overreach. Regulation of tree removal was one on a slate of local control issues Abbott put on the agenda for the special session that ended on Tuesday.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08/16/abbott-signs-bill-regulating-tree-removal/

Of course Greg is anti tree

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2 minutes ago, Deej said:

If they had renamed it the "Johnny Manziel Tree", the people of Kerrville would have rallied to protect it. 

https://kerrcountylead.com/editorial-a-vile-smear-on-kerrvilles-history-beauty-in-destruction-of-founders-tree/

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When the KISD Board of Trustees rejected an idea to place a statue of Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Johnny Manziel, who prepped at Tivy High School, the Cailloux Foundation agreed to put the statue at Peterson Plaza, which it owns. Certainly, private property rights are important, but how about trying to be good stewards?

 

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1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Growing up, my dad's land had a giant live oak near a spring-fed creek that an arborist estimated was pre-Columbian. Three people could hug it without overlapping, and our cattle would rest under it for shade. I imagine that Kerrville oak was even older.

During junior high, Pop gave permission to build a treehouse in its boughs, so long as I didn't drive any nails into the tree or otherwise harm it. He once wished to be buried underneath it.

SH 130 and eminent domain forced my dad to sell the property in 2008, and though the structures have been demolished and the 52 acres on which they sat have been bisected by a toll road and its frontages, the highway department at least had the good sense to leave the tree be.

Here are some pics of me visiting it one last time, in January 2008, before my parents sold and moved to Johnson City.

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The three main boughs would make large trees.

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I guess this outs me as a treehugger.

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The lone board was all that remained of the treehouse.

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I'm up there. Can you find me?

Isnt he just precious...

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1 hour ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Of course Greg is anti tree

"Abbott — who himself ran into tree trouble several years ago . . ."

 

Yeah, I thought that was gonna go a different direction, lol.

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8 hours ago, crash_davis said:

That is a beautiful oak tree. Any developer worth a shit would feature that oak tree in it's landscaping and building design. What a fucking waste.

fuck hotwheels. 

I have dealt with the worst developers and even they would covet that tree. I don't get it. Is this some sort of own the libs deal? 

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9 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Probably cause everyone thought only a fucking idiot would cut down that tree. And yet here we are. 

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And no one thought a president would commit treason. No one thought a president and his party would attempt to overthrow democracy in America. 

Time to make very explicit laws and punishments clear against everything no one thinks anyone would actually do. 

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1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

And no one thought a president would commit treason. No one thought a president and his political party would attempt to overthrow democracy in America. 

Time to make very explicit laws and punishments clear against everything no one things anyone would actually do. 

There’s a place for these hot takes.  Tree thread doesn’t have a fucking thing to do with that, though. 

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

It sure does you traitor cunt

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Expectations of civility in American society can no longer be taken for granted and must be expressly demanded. This tree situation is a perfect example of this. 

No, just don’t need your whiny pussy shit all over a decent board. Go fuck yourself back to yours and cry with your peeps.  Maybe tie some more completely nonpolitical topics to your bruised wittle heart.  

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12 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

No, just don’t need your whiny pussy shit all over a decent board. Go fuck yourself back to yours and cry with your peeps.  Maybe tie some more completely nonpolitical topics to your bruised wittle heart.  

LOL. No safe space for your little fascist ass anymore.  Go burn some books.  Kill some immigrants.  Rewrite history books.  Make it a crime to be something other than a white Protestant heterosexual male.  Be anti-science.  Make women second class citizens.  Try to turn the US into a theocracy.    Have you tried to overthrow the government lately?  No, well you are not doing your part to MAGA.  The world would be a better place if you took <redacted>

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Honestly 3 years in prison for cutting that down seems appropriate. What in the actual fuck? We don’t get to consume the Earth without the Earth saying FAFO to us. Same goes for clear cutting land. I’m so fucking tired of our callousness. We are not above nature, we are a part of it. Time we started fucking acting like it again. 

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2 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

LOL. No safe space for your little fascist ass anymore.  Go burn some books.  Kill some immigrants.  Rewrite history books.  Make it a crime to be something other than a white Protestant heterosexual male.  Be anti-science.  Make women second class citizens.  Try to turn the US into a theocracy.    Have you tried to overthrow the government lately?  No, well you are not doing your part to MAGA.  The world would be a better place if you took one of your precious guns, stuck it in your mouth and pulled the trigger.

Fuck off.
 - A tree got cut down in Central Tx  

- But my pussy still hurts because Orange man bad.  I want to cry. Can I cry here about the tree in Kerville? 
 

You wish I’d kill myself?  Maybe you should touch some grass.  Have some perspective. Bleeding cunt you are. 

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9 hours ago, Hermanator said:

It sure does you traitor cunt

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Expectations of civility in American society can no longer be taken for granted and must be expressly demanded. This tree situation is a perfect example of this. 

Some of us don't want to talk about Trump on every thread on the website. Especially a thread that isn't even tangentially related. How long before y'all start bringing it up on the football board and calling people snowflakes there because they don't want to discuss politics in the middle of an LSU game? 

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I love big old trees, especially old live oaks.  Shame it was cut down.  That said, apparently no laws were broken.  If they had been broken, it's a completely different situation.  This isn't the Treaty Oak or the Auburn tree case.  Those bastards got what they deserved.  This tree was on private property and the owner was within his/its rights to cut it down--even if it may have been a stupid thing to do financially.  And as others have said, let's not make everything about politics.  Please take it to CR. 

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