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44 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I learned tonight from my FIL that Vance used to not like Trump because he bought into all of the "bullshit", but then he saw the great job Trump did and realized how great he is.  He doesn't even consider that there may be a different explanation.

And people wonder why my stance is to never speak to MAGA, there is not mental contortion they will refuse to do.

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11 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

No, man.  Why would their viewership respect him for telling them what they don't want to hear? They just forget what he said and remember that they hate the gay guy.

Pete appeals to literally two types of people: (1) grandmas who love what a nice respectful and high achiever boy he is and who want to pinch his cheeks, and (2) liberal political perverts who love to watch him dunk on bad Republican arguments.  The second happens to be most of the posters on this board, but we're very fucking far from the average undecided American voter.   

I love the term "political pervert."  Hat tip.  Bravo.

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1 hour ago, Chult86 said:

I don't post all that often, though don't mistake that for not enjoying this board's discourse, OUsucks/Texags point and laughs, and quality original content on a frequent basis.

I haven't felt this sort of enthusiasm about the future of the country in over eight years. Same for my wife. We've been on a road trip the last two days and as such have gotten to digest this with each other seeing the news, subsequent endorsements, and then today's speech.

Let me backtrack a few weeks... The despair really came to fruition the night of the debate. It wasn't THAT bad, it was the worst possible performance other than pissing yourself on stage. Watching it that night, my wife and I first shared feelings of shock. Again, it wasn't as bad as it had been rumored, it was somehow worse. We (and the entire country) knew that night that the only way Biden could win the election would be to get enough anti-Trump people to GOTV. However, that was going to be next to impossible given the level of enthusiasm with the campaign as soon as they walked off the stage that night. We realized that night that Trump had gone from likely longshot odds to win, to a position where even he probably couldn't screw up the next few months bad enough to lose.

Those feelings were soon replaced by frustration and anger. Anger at the DNC for forcing Biden to run again and not spending his term as a true transitional leader and prepare the next generation to lead. Let's be 100% honest: There is nothing about "what the people want" less than forcing two basically octogenarians onto us for the choice to lead the free world for the next four years. Two candidates who wouldn't live long enough to see the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of their policies. Two candidates who should be retired, not running for the most stressful job in the world. Between Daycare and Health Insurance premiums, we are close to $30,000/year, and that's assuming everyone stays healthy. That's our floor. People on Medicare with a supplement pay usually no more than $5k/year, and that's their ceiling. So when the debate question about Childcare got skipped over completely with nary a word related to the topic at all from either candidate, further resignation and apathy about the ridiculousness of how parts of our country operate set in.

As a Millennial, going through 9/11 in high school (Biology class when the news hit), graduating college into the Great Recession and competing against literal MBAs for entry level jobs, to finally COVID. How fortunate are we to live through three "once in a generation" events between the times most of us are between the ages of 20 and 40, in our prime earning years. We know that the "Dad was a milkman and supported a family of four in a 3/2 suburbia and vacationed every year" was a literal thing. We know how far behind we are, thanks to decades of policy decisions that just continued to cut the bottom rungs off of the ladder one at a time. In exchange for going through that, our choices for the next four years were these two guys... again... just four years older. In what world are Millennials and Gen Z supposed to think that the American Dream exists in any fashion whatsoever? While older generations expressed dismay at Gen Z not savings and spending for experiences now, us Millennials were like "Ya... we get it. We probably should have done more of that ourselves at your age."

The "We're Not Going Back" line is great. We don't want to go back to the same old drawing board of "Thoughts & Prayers about your most recent shooting" and "It'll trickle down this time, we promise!". It hasn't worked, it isn't working, and it won't work. Is Kamala perfect? No. Will she deliver on half of her campaign promises? Doubtful, depends on the down ballot results mostly. Is she a breath of fresh air to anyone begging for a choice to vote for someone else? Abso-fucking-lutely. Somehow, Nikki Haley likely had it right when said "The first party to retire their 80-year old candidate will win this election." Even if she only delivers on 25% of her promises, that would be a substantial step forward, compared to the regression we'd see under Trump.

I didn't expect this post to be this long. In a way, it was sort of cathartic to write out the generalized frustrations of the last several years. But oddly... that desire to write this out is because I'm finally, FINALLY optimistic about our future in a real way. In a way where there might be a chance that I won't have to worry about my son in school doing active shooter drills, where we might not benefit from Universal Child Care, but future generations will, because they should. Where if someone changes jobs they aren't risking financial ruin before their next set of benefits kicks in, because again, be honest... no one pays the ridiculous COBRA premiums unless they are already in a situation where it's needed.

Stop trying to fix the old ladder. Just build a fucking new one.

As a white, “last year of the baby boom” boomer, who held senior exec business roles, I’m furious at the boomers and business executives in this country who just don’t understand what you’ve written. The data is all there. 

For me, it all became obvious when I realized my kids couldn’t afford a car because the price had gone up 12x from when I bought my first car, but the hourly wage they made in their part time job was the SAME as what I made at that age. From that point on, I was no longer blind to the challenges of the generations after me. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Which one of you mofos is starting the White Men for Harris call?

👀👀💀

I’m working on a Dudes for Doug teams meeting. #We’reTrying

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Posted
1 minute ago, Pancho said:

CNN Breaking News: Trump campaign files FEC complaint against Harris saying she can’t use Biden’s campaign cash

And the speed at which the FEC handles these, it will be 2032 or later 

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

CNN Breaking News: Trump campaign files FEC complaint against Harris saying she can’t use Biden’s campaign cash

This is so silly. This was all figured out weeks, if not months, ago. The very reason Harris made the most sense is specifically because she would have access to the war chest by law. They are grasping at smoke. 

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is so silly. This was all figured out weeks, if not months, ago. The very reason Harris made the most sense is specifically because she would have access to the war chest by law. They are grasping at smoke. 

Or the trunp campaign is just going by that tweet @LTbear posted up thread and trying to run with it without doing their research. Elie Honig doesn’t think it will go anywhere. 

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is so silly. This was all figured out weeks, if not months, ago. The very reason Harris made the most sense is specifically because she would have access to the war chest by law. They are grasping at smoke. 

Also, she is clearly using the 250mil she just raised to bridge the gap until the war chest is transferred. 

Suck it trump cucks.

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Posted
Just now, Pancho said:

Or the trunp campaign is just going by that tweet @LTbear posted up thread and trying to run with it without doing their research. Elie Honig doesn’t think it will go anywhere. 

It’s called desperation 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Js1 said:

He looks like he'll hire your school it's 6th choice for a head football coach while touting blended increases on your ticket prices. 

too soon

3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

That didn’t take long. Trump cleared that hurdle today during a press call at Mar-Lago:

“She was by far the nastiest to Joe Biden. I was so surprised that he took her,” Trump said. “There was nobody nastier than her. She played the race card at a level that you rarely see, and she really was very nasty to him, and then he picked her. So I don't get that exactly now. They act like they're great friends, but you don't really recover from that.”

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/donald-trump-commits-to-a-debate-calls-her-kamala-harris-radical/74517983007/

Sen. Ted Cruz makes calls at Tarrant County Republican Headquarters -  YouTube

25 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

 

Look, just because you don't like the guy doesn't mean he isn't entitled to a date night. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Given the torrent like speed of the election cycle, it's hard to step back and take a broader look, but I was just exchanging texts with a friend and he reminded me that the Trump assassination attempt was only 10 days ago.  You'd think a normal human would be affected in some way by such a profound event in their life.

This guy is EXACTLY the same as he was before, if not even worse in rhetoric.  This is not behavior of a normal human, +/- a million standard deviations.

It's difficult to fathom how horrible of a person he is and the English language (or my vocabulary) is insufficient to the task.

He’s a narcissist and a sociopath. He’s not hard to figure out. He’s incapable of change.

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1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

I learned tonight from my FIL that Vance used to not like Trump because he bought into all of the "bullshit", but then he saw the great job Trump did and realized how great he is.  He doesn't even consider that there may be a different explanation.

Ask them to define the "bullshit" without using other code words like "woke" or "DEI."  Then ask them to point to specific things that constitute the "great job" Trump did.

We're honestly quite lucky that we didn't have more crises during the Trump presidency.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Pancho said:

CNN Breaking News: Trump campaign files FEC complaint against Harris saying she can’t use Biden’s campaign cash

Okay. Though I doubt she'll have a hard time raising the case you take from her. 

Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Can we ease up with the tweets that directly, intentionally misrepresent what's being said in the video? Trump says enough heinous shit without having to twist it around.

Yea let's not go down Elmo/Twitter/x/asshat road.

This will turn into a VY destination thread before you know it.

Dipshits 

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

They won’t take shit. It’s Biden campaign cash, it’s Biden/Harris campaign cash. She’s already on the ticket. It’s her cash. 


all Trump lawsuits are now being filed with hopes of getting it in front of the Supreme Court. I’d bet SC staff are back channeling information down, what to say in your lawsuit, where to file. 

the same Supreme Court said a president trump can do pretty much whatever he wants. A man above the law  

file, baby file !!!

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Posted
3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

That didn’t take long. Trump cleared that hurdle today during a press call at Mar-Lago:

“She was by far the nastiest to Joe Biden. I was so surprised that he took her,” Trump said. “There was nobody nastier than her. She played the race card at a level that you rarely see, and she really was very nasty to him, and then he picked her. So I don't get that exactly now. They act like they're great friends, but you don't really recover from that.”

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/donald-trump-commits-to-a-debate-calls-her-kamala-harris-radical/74517983007/

He likes the word "nasty" in his limited vocabulary.  You know Harris has a comeback for this that Hillary didn't.

"She's nasty."

"Yes, Miss Harris if you're nasty."

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Posted
2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I can’t think of any examples. I can only recall him saying it about women, and women of color more often than not. That’s why it was such an easy prediction. 


Well Trump only has about 17 adjectives in his brain, most of them one or two syllables, so it's a matter of him going with the one he thinks is best. "Lessee ... uh ... crooked? No.  Sleepy?  No.  Little? No. Lyin'? No .. hmmm Nasty?  That's it, That's the one because she's a woman and she's black so she's probably nasty!"  

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Posted
They won’t take shit. It’s Biden campaign cash, it’s Biden/Harris campaign cash. She’s already on the ticket. It’s her cash. 

Let them take it. Based on the last couple of days, she’ll have it back by the end of the weekend.
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54 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

As a white, “last year of the baby boom” boomer, who held senior exec business roles, I’m furious at the boomers and business executives in this country who just don’t understand what you’ve written. The data is all there. 

For me, it all became obvious when I realized my kids couldn’t afford a car because the price had gone up 12x from when I bought my first car, but the hourly wage they made in their part time job was the SAME as what I made at that age. From that point on, I was no longer blind to the challenges of the generations after me. 

I have no idea how my girls will be able to afford to live in the city they grew up in if they choose a career in something like public service like their Mom and I.

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56 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Given the torrent like speed of the election cycle, it's hard to step back and take a broader look, but I was just exchanging texts with a friend and he reminded me that the Trump assassination attempt was only 10 days ago.  You'd think a normal human would be affected in some way by such a profound event in their life.

This guy is EXACTLY the same as he was before, if not even worse in rhetoric.  This is not behavior of a normal human, +/- a million standard deviations.

It's difficult to fathom how horrible of a person he is and the English language (or my vocabulary) is insufficient to the task.

You would also think it would still be major news, but it isn't because Trump is just too shitty for anyone to really care about someone shooting at him and missing.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


They truly can’t help themselves. Deal with anyone who isn’t a white male: DEI!!!!!
They’re so fucking intellectually lazy. They’re not even clever racists.

You are seeing this permeate amongst the GOP. They blame both real and imagined problems on non-white males for nearly everything

listen in any congressional committee, the insinuation is always that the fuck up wouldn't have occurred if white men were in charge.

 

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On 7/10/2024 at 6:28 PM, C-Man said:

I’ve seen it a bit before and now it’s really starting to show on MAGA and right-wing social media — calling Kamala a DEI hire and/or insinuating that she’s risen to her position by performing from her knees. It’s absolutely disgusting.

And since Biden stepped down it’s only gotten worse.

On 7/10/2024 at 6:47 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Just wait until Mike Johnson launches an impeachment inquiry.

Not Mike Johnson and not an impeachment inquiry but close enough. The Trumpublicans are just too predictable.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788663-andy-ogles-impeachment-articles-kamala-harris/

Tennessee Republican files articles of impeachment against Harris

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) filed articles of impeachment against Vice President Harris on Tuesday, as Republicans ramp up attacks while she launches a presidential campaign.

The filing expands on previously introduced articles that target Harris’s record on immigration, a GOP rallying cryagainst the vice president.

He added a second article in the new filing, which claims Harris covered up President Biden’s mental well-being, constituting a “breach of public trust.” While Biden ended his reelection campaign Monday, he has maintained that he will finish his term and is in good health.

“Kamala Devi Harris has knowingly misled the people of the United States and the Congress of the United States, principally to obfuscate the physical and cognitive well-being of the President of the United States, Joe Biden,” the filing reads.



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