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15 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

What's it take to be an ATC? Can I get my shifty, no good, bum of a nephew a job? Just needs to show up and pee in a cup and look at radars? He plays a lot of video games and can maybe repurpose his screen time to look at blips and boops on radar screen? I think he finally got his bachelors...

Planes are really big and when you sit in them it barely feels like you’re moving, they aren’t going that fast. They have the whole sky up there too. It’s super easy not to crash, you just watch them on the screen and remind them to be careful lol. 

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Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

Planes are really big and when you sit in them it barely feels like you’re moving, they aren’t going that fast. They have the whole sky up there too. It’s super easy not to crash, you just watch them on the screen and remind them to be careful lol. 

and don't forget planes basically fly themselves these days and they're programmed to not run into each other so ATC's are kinda redundant anyway. thank goodness our current regime has both saved us money and made us safer. praise be

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1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and don't forget planes basically fly themselves these days and they're programmed to not run into each other so ATC's are kinda redundant anyway. thank goodness our current regime has both saved us money and made us safer. praise be


And the safety will be even better with AI. 

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1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

and don't forget planes basically fly themselves these days and they're programmed to not run into each other so ATC's are kinda redundant anyway. thank goodness our current regime has both saved us money and made us safer. praise be

You can just ChatGPT the instructions for what order they should land or takeoff or whatever. 

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22 minutes ago, kevwun said:

It's supposed to be one of the most stressful jobs there is.  I've only ever interacted with one ATC and it was in Vegas.  He was off duty and gambling at the casino we were staying in.  He was so insane that it made me nervous about flying home.

WE'RE LANDING THIS BITCH, BABY!!!

 

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26 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

What's it take to be an ATC? Can I get my shifty, no good, bum of a nephew a job? Just needs to show up and pee in a cup and look at radars? He plays a lot of video games and can maybe repurpose his screen time to look at blips and boops on radar screen? I think he finally got his bachelors...

I was Navy ATC. No thanks

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I think just normal Canadian nonsense. They have issues all the time. 
 

NAVCANADA is the poster child for not privatizing your country's ATC. Incompetent buffoons, but at least polite.
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Yea the old “I have nothing to offer but I want everything you have!” negotiation tactic is a classic.

The other issue is that if the ACA subsidies are taken up and even passed as a “clean” standalone measure, DOTARD can just veto it or threaten to veto it, which Johnson/Thune will use as cover.
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5 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

I was Navy ATC. No thanks

Brother was Army ATC, then civilian after he got out. Saint Ronnie fired him and the world eventually ended up with yet another attorney then judge. 

Thanks a lot for that, Ronnie - yet another reason you sucked.

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10 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Making America Great Again: the no statistics edition!

 

 

Puts everyone out of a job...

...but job reports can never be released.

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Touche, Mr. President.

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Trying to fly back to SJC from BUR, and my flight is delayed 2 hours but only because of fog.

TSA pre-check took 43 seconds.

I guess that’s a win for the radical republicans.

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19 hours ago, Skipper said:

I'm not remotely paying attention to politics at the moment but do have business travel to east coast each of the next 2 weeks.    I know this is asking way too much for this board but is there a non-partisan breakdown (or linked article) of what exactly the biggest issues are and any best guesses as to how this gets resolved?    I can't fathom either party wants this fucking over Thanksgiving travel

lol what an idiot!

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Posted (edited)

Agentic AI ATC controllers have to be spooling up as we speak, no?  Plug them in to the radar and away we go. Never need breaks or vacations, can monitor and communicate with all traffic simultaneously, don’t kill themselves from stress, don’t strike (yet), and are cheaper in the long term than a room full of chain smoking malcontents.  
 

enjoy your flights. 
 

actually you know what, might as well give them control of the traffic like a harbor pilot. Then they don’t have to worry about pilots fucking up.  Planes are fly by wire so remote control should be as simple as a network connection. 
 

goodbye near misses!

thank you for flying the friendly skies. 
 

and between takeoff and landing, planes should have a FSD so we can go ahead and 86 that pesky pilots union. 

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Posted
18 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

$140/month OOP is a lot of money to a lot of people 

Yep. When i was a poor I had insurance but I couldn't afford to see a specialist when I needed to. I'd be dead if I was still in that situation now.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Trying to fly back to SJC from SNA, and my flight is delayed 2 hours but only because of fog.

TSA pre-check took 43 seconds.

I guess that’s a win for the radical republicans.

 

Me to myself 17 minutes after making this post:

 

 

Season 8 Tns GIF by THE NEXT STEP

 

 

Flight cancelled, auto rebooked. This is why I stopped flying Soufwest

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14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Agentic AI ATC controllers have to be spooling up as we speak, no?  Plug them in to the radar and away we go. Never need breaks or vacations, can monitor and communicate with all traffic simultaneously, don’t kill themselves from stress, don’t strike (yet), and are cheaper in the long term than a room full of chain smoking malcontents.  
 

enjoy your flights. 
 

actually you know what, might as well give them control of the traffic like a harbor pilot. Then they don’t have to worry about pilots fucking up.  Planes are fly by wire so remote control should be as simple as a network connection. 
 

goodbye near misses!

thank you for flying the friendly skies. 
 

and between takeoff and landing, planes should have a FSD so we can go ahead and 86 that pesky pilots union. 

There's a good faith argument to be made over using ML-driven systems to automate ATC for "normal" traffic, allowing a smaller group of human controllers to handle emergent scenarios that go outside the "normal" parameters. 

The real reason for having humans in the loop is to handle the scenarios that you don't already have data for, and that require snap judgements. Like when equipment fails at an inopportune moment, or there's some uncontrolled external factor

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

There's a good faith argument to be made over using ML-driven systems to automate ATC for "normal" traffic, allowing a smaller group of human controllers to handle emergent scenarios that go outside the "normal" parameters. 

The real reason for having humans in the loop is to handle the scenarios that you don't already have data for, and that require snap judgements. Like when equipment fails at an inopportune moment, or there's some uncontrolled external factor

Agreed but that's like years of training before deployment. 

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4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Me to myself 17 minutes after making this post:

 

 

Season 8 Tns GIF by THE NEXT STEP

 

 

Flight cancelled, auto rebooked. This is why I stopped lying Soufwest

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Me to myself 17 minutes after making this post:

 

 

Season 8 Tns GIF by THE NEXT STEP

 

 

Flight cancelled, auto rebooked. This is why I stopped lying Soufwest

fucked up GIF

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It's going to be a shitshow and Americans are going to be out of a lot of money. Airlines look to be play

You think hotels, rental car companies, airport parking, lost time at work, etc. are going to re-imburse folks when they don't make it to and from their destinations as planned?

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Posted
48 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Yep. When i was a poor I had insurance but I couldn't afford to see a specialist when I needed to. I'd be dead if I was still in that situation now.

If it weren't for my preventative care/biometric monitoring, yeah, I'd be screwed now too.  Luckily that shit caught my cancer early.  Anyone who doesn't have access to those things is likely hosed.

Posted
1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Me to myself 17 minutes after making this post:

Season 8 Tns GIF by THE NEXT STEP

Flight cancelled, auto rebooked. This is why I stopped flying Soufwest

if you're at bur, guy's highball lounge has a great bourbon selection.



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