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53 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Before this shitshow is over, we're going to end up with an across-the-board least qualified cabinet and staff that has ever existed.

There is literally one single qualification for a cabinet/staff position: be willing and eager to suck Trump's dick with a smile on your face.  That's it.  That's the only thing that matters.

John Lee Ratcliffe lives in Heath, Texas, an exurb of Dallas, which has a population of about 6,000, is 93 percent white, is one of the most trumpian districts in the country, and has a MEDIAN income of, wait for it:

158,000.00!!!! Geezuz. That’s the median income?

Mr. Ratcliffe went to law school at SMU, because of course he did. 

I love this state but sometimes it reallly does fucking suck. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath,_Texas

 

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John Lee Ratcliffe lives in Heath, Texas, an exurb of Dallas, which has a population of about 6,000, is 93 percent white, is one of the most trumpian districts in the country, and has a MEDIAN income of, wait for it:
158,000.00!!!! Geezuz. That’s the median income?
Mr. Ratcliffe went to law school at SMU, because of course he did. 
I love this state but sometimes it reallly does fucking suck. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath,_Texas
 

This guy used to work in my building. I used to see him all the time in the lobby and he struck me as a really prissy guy.

Not sure what relevance that has but I thought I’d just share.
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ratcliffe_(American_politician)

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Ratcliffe criticized Special Counsel Robert Mueller for covering obstruction of justice in his report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.[33] Ratcliffe claimed that Mueller went beyond the rules for special counsels by covering instances of potential obstruction when the report did not charge any crimes.

 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Before this shitshow is over, we're going to end up with an across-the-board least qualified cabinet and staff that has ever existed.

Frankly, I'm rooting for it. I'm basically suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome.

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25 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Frankly, I'm rooting for it. I'm basically suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome.

So you're saying we're the dog, and the cake/whatever is America?

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Or maybe we are whatever is being cut up, and other countries are the dog.

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3 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

“Racism didn’t exist until we went and elected that black guy! He turned us all racist!”

The chair of Trump’s Ohio campaign everyone!
 

This is a perfect example of the unjustified certainty that the right has that everybody agrees them. She would say this in a room full of people she doesn't know and be stunned that a few ebil libs might show astonishment or offense.

We've all had somebody like this lean our way at a gathering and start expelling their idiocy with a wink and the certainty that we're kindred spirits.

The big blank idiocy is quite an obstacle.

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2 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Donald Trump calling Elijah Cummings a racist is like Chris Christie calling Barack Obama fat.  There's no way that could happen in real life, right?

Trump either saw on TV, or heard from those around him, that his tweets yesterday were going into the dumbfuck territory.

So he got angry today, in typical Trumpian fashion, and decided to call Elijah Cummings a racist.

He knows of something that is bad enough to make him scared of Elijah Cummings (and/or worried about his followers finding something out). 

So we got another infrastructure week ahead of us.

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The closures of the Warren plant and the larger Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly factory — another GM facility that has produced 4 million cars since 1985 — will have ripple effects on the surrounding communities, and are predicted to mean 16,000 fewer jobs in Michigan over the next two years, according to a report prepared for state lawmakers earlier this year by University of Michigan economists.

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20 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

Fuck this stupid ass motherfucker! You are the president of the goddamn U.S. of fucking A. Be a leader for once in your pathetic life. If you see some part of the country suffering in squalor, you can fucking do something about rather than pointing a finger at others and moaning about it on Twitter  like a fucking drama queen. You have the vast resources of the federal government at your disposable. JFC, this guy would not know leadership, even if Lincoln, FDR, and Washington smashed him in the face with their 100 pound cocks. When you are the guy at the top, you are responsible for those under you. Some will not need your help and others will, to get shit done, for one reason or another. Failing to get shit done is just not your subordinates failure, but yours as well. As president you hope the successes will outnumber the failures greatly, but there will plenty of failures no matter what. This herpes sore on the asshole of America, fucking only wants credit for successes and turns a blind eye to all the failures or lies about them being successes, or worse uses them for political gain rather than addressing them, like every other worthless politician in this county. I welcome the day our AI overlords take over and take care of us like the giant fucking babies we have become. Shit might actually get accomplished.

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Yeah, Trump called out Cummings because his is a mean, old racist.  I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/top-democrat-elijah-cummings-wife-may-have-gained-illegal-private-benefit-from-his-committee-activities

A charity run by the wife of Rep. Elijah Cummings received millions from special interest groups and corporations that had business before her husband’s committee and could have been used illegally, according to an IRS complaint filed by an ethics watchdog group.

 

Cummings, 68, a Maryland Democrat, is chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. His wife, Maya Rockeymoore, 48, is the chairman of the Maryland Democratic Party and briefly ran in the state's gubernatorial race last year. The couple married in 2008. Cummings was once heavily in debt — in part due to hefty child support payments to his first wife and two other women he had children with — but his financial situation has improved considerably over the past decade.

Rockeymoore runs two entities, a nonprofit group called the Center for Global Policy Solutions and a for-profit consulting firm called Global Policy Solutions, LLC, whose operations appear to have overlapped, according to the IRS complaint filed by watchdog group the National Legal and Policy Center on Monday. The complaint states that the arrangement may have been used to derive "illegal private benefit."

Global Policy Solutions received more than $6.2 million in grants between 2013 and 2016, according to tax records. Several of the nonprofit group’s financial backers — which included Google, J.P Morgan, and Prudential — have business interests before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Cummings has served as Democratic chairman of the committee since January and previously served as ranking member.

The largest contributor to the nonprofit organization was the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, a company that is regulated by Cummings’ committee. The foundation, which gave a total of $5.5 million to Rockeymoore’s consulting firm and $5.2 million to her nonprofit group, ceased supporting her groups in 2017.

The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was established by Johnson & Johnson founder Robert Wood Johnson but is not officially affiliated with the pharmaceutical company. The foundation owns 13 million shares of Johnson & Johnson stock worth over $1.7 billion, making it one of the company’s largest shareholders. Currently, five board members of the foundation are former senior executives at the pharmaceutical giant, including the foundation’s Chairman of the Board of Trustees Roger Fine, who previously served as corporate vice president and as general counsel of Johnson & Johnson.

In recent months, Cummings has been a vocal opponent of Johnson & Johnson, targeting the company as part of the House Oversight Committee’s probe of drug price inflation.

Under Cummings, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has wide authority to regulate business industries, including pharmaceuticals, banking, mortgage brokers, and technology. In recent years, Prudential, JP Morgan, and Johnson & Johnson have had business interests before the committee.

Tom Anderson, director of the National Legal and Policy Center’s Government Integrity Project, which has been investigating the nonprofit arrangement and provided research to the Washington Examiner, said the potential for corruption is “off the charts.” He said Rockeymoore declined to let his organization view her nonprofit organization’s most recent public financial records as required by the IRS.

“When a powerful chairman of a committee of the House of Representatives has a wife that is bringing in money from entities with interests before his Committee and she is not providing the transparency mandated by the IRS, there's a serious problem,” said Anderson. “The potential for corruption in this situation is simply off the charts and can't be understated. We hope Chairman Cummings works with his wife to end the stonewalling and provide the public with what's legally mandated all charities provide.”

Both Cummings and Rockeymoore refused to discuss the allegations with the Washington Examiner. Cummings did not answer questions about the overlap between companies with interests before his committee and donors to his wife’s foundation. Rockeymoore did not respond to request for comment.

The complaint asked the IRS to investigate the “shared leadership,” “integrated operations,” and “shared address and physical facilities” of her two companies. Rockeymoore’s nonprofit and the LLC have mutual clients, donors and projects, and were located at the same address and share a phone number.

According to its website, the Center for Global Policy Solutions is a nonprofit group that seeks to “create healthier communities, strengthen Social Security, and close racial wealth disparities." The for-profit consulting firm, Global Policy Solutions LLC, describes itself as “a social change strategy firm dedicated to making policy work for people and their environments.” The complaint states that they “appear to operate almost as a single entity, allowing for an illegal private benefit for Maya Rockeymoore Cummings and her husband."

Rockeymoore’s consulting firm was selected for a $1 million federal contract with the General Services Administration in 2017 for work on the “Leadership for Healthy Communities” project to combat childhood obesity, according to federal records. At the same time, Rockeymoore’s nonprofit group “served as the national program office for Leadership for Healthy Communities,” according to its website.

If both groups were involved in managing the project, “the arrangement is ‘self-dealing’ and cannot be ‘arms length’” as required by IRS law and “prompt the question of whether its organizers are getting fat off the grants,” according to the watchdog group’s complaint. Rockeymoore did not respond to multiple requests from the Washington Examiner for her nonprofit group’s most recent public financial records. Peter Flaherty, the chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, said she hung up the phone on him when he asked her for a copy.

When the Washington Examiner visited the listed business address for Rockeymoore’s consulting firm and nonprofit, a doorman said she had moved out of the office building over a year ago, did not leave a forwarding address, and the building has continued to get her companies’ mail. As committee chairman, Cummings, is embroiled in a legal battle to obtain President Trump’s tax returns.

Cummings recently subpoenaed Trump’s financial records, prompting the president to sue himin an effort to block the subpoena. Cummings struggled with serious financial problems after joining Congress over 20 years ago. His house was placed in foreclosure, at one point; he owed $30,000 in unpaid taxes to the IRS; and he was taken to court multiple times for thousands in unpaid debts. Cummings said his financial difficulties were due to his hefty child support payments.

Since marrying Rockeymoore 11 years ago, Cummings’ financial outlook has improved considerably, according to financial disclosure reports and property records. The couple currently owns two rental properties in Baltimore worth between $250,000 and $500,000 each, and last year, they sold their three-bedroom Victorian row house in northwest Washington, D.C. for $896,000.

Cummings disclosed in his financial reports that his wife earns an unspecified salary from Global Policy Solutions LLC; he did not disclose that she receives a salary from her nonprofit organization, which was $152,000 in 2016, according to the group’s tax records from that year.

 

I know this is a crazy theory here but maybe Trump isn't rubbing his sack in Cummings face because Cummings is black.  Maybe he is rubbing his sack in Cummings face because both Cummings and his wife are as crooked as a snake.

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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’s 10pm on the East Coast and he’s firing up his iPhone again.  Infrastructure Week.  

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“The Democrats hate this President so much, they’re forgetting about their duty to secure our Border.” 
@ThomasHomanICE  @SteveHiltonx Sad but true!

“If the Democrats would have closed the Loopholes two years ago when President Trump asked them to do so, none of this stuff would have happened.” 
@ThomasHomanICE

 

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Yeah, Trump called out Cummings because his is a mean, old racist.  I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with this.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/top-democrat-elijah-cummings-wife-may-have-gained-illegal-private-benefit-from-his-committee-activities


A charity run by the wife of Rep. Elijah Cummings received millions from special interest groups and corporations that had business before her husband’s committee and could have been used illegally, according to an IRS complaint filed by an ethics watchdog group.

 

Cummings, 68, a Maryland Democrat, is chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. His wife, Maya Rockeymoore, 48, is the chairman of the Maryland Democratic Party and briefly ran in the state's gubernatorial race last year. The couple married in 2008. Cummings was once heavily in debt — in part due to hefty child support payments to his first wife and two other women he had children with — but his financial situation has improved considerably over the past decade.

Rockeymoore runs two entities, a nonprofit group called the Center for Global Policy Solutions and a for-profit consulting firm called Global Policy Solutions, LLC, whose operations appear to have overlapped, according to the IRS complaint filed by watchdog group the National Legal and Policy Center on Monday. The complaint states that the arrangement may have been used to derive "illegal private benefit."

Global Policy Solutions received more than $6.2 million in grants between 2013 and 2016, according to tax records. Several of the nonprofit group’s financial backers — which included Google, J.P Morgan, and Prudential — have business interests before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Cummings has served as Democratic chairman of the committee since January and previously served as ranking member.

The largest contributor to the nonprofit organization was the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, a company that is regulated by Cummings’ committee. The foundation, which gave a total of $5.5 million to Rockeymoore’s consulting firm and $5.2 million to her nonprofit group, ceased supporting her groups in 2017.

The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was established by Johnson & Johnson founder Robert Wood Johnson but is not officially affiliated with the pharmaceutical company. The foundation owns 13 million shares of Johnson & Johnson stock worth over $1.7 billion, making it one of the company’s largest shareholders. Currently, five board members of the foundation are former senior executives at the pharmaceutical giant, including the foundation’s Chairman of the Board of Trustees Roger Fine, who previously served as corporate vice president and as general counsel of Johnson & Johnson.

In recent months, Cummings has been a vocal opponent of Johnson & Johnson, targeting the company as part of the House Oversight Committee’s probe of drug price inflation.

Under Cummings, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has wide authority to regulate business industries, including pharmaceuticals, banking, mortgage brokers, and technology. In recent years, Prudential, JP Morgan, and Johnson & Johnson have had business interests before the committee.

Tom Anderson, director of the National Legal and Policy Center’s Government Integrity Project, which has been investigating the nonprofit arrangement and provided research to the Washington Examiner, said the potential for corruption is “off the charts.” He said Rockeymoore declined to let his organization view her nonprofit organization’s most recent public financial records as required by the IRS.

“When a powerful chairman of a committee of the House of Representatives has a wife that is bringing in money from entities with interests before his Committee and she is not providing the transparency mandated by the IRS, there's a serious problem,” said Anderson. “The potential for corruption in this situation is simply off the charts and can't be understated. We hope Chairman Cummings works with his wife to end the stonewalling and provide the public with what's legally mandated all charities provide.”

Both Cummings and Rockeymoore refused to discuss the allegations with the Washington Examiner. Cummings did not answer questions about the overlap between companies with interests before his committee and donors to his wife’s foundation. Rockeymoore did not respond to request for comment.

The complaint asked the IRS to investigate the “shared leadership,” “integrated operations,” and “shared address and physical facilities” of her two companies. Rockeymoore’s nonprofit and the LLC have mutual clients, donors and projects, and were located at the same address and share a phone number.

According to its website, the Center for Global Policy Solutions is a nonprofit group that seeks to “create healthier communities, strengthen Social Security, and close racial wealth disparities." The for-profit consulting firm, Global Policy Solutions LLC, describes itself as “a social change strategy firm dedicated to making policy work for people and their environments.” The complaint states that they “appear to operate almost as a single entity, allowing for an illegal private benefit for Maya Rockeymoore Cummings and her husband."

Rockeymoore’s consulting firm was selected for a $1 million federal contract with the General Services Administration in 2017 for work on the “Leadership for Healthy Communities” project to combat childhood obesity, according to federal records. At the same time, Rockeymoore’s nonprofit group “served as the national program office for Leadership for Healthy Communities,” according to its website.

If both groups were involved in managing the project, “the arrangement is ‘self-dealing’ and cannot be ‘arms length’” as required by IRS law and “prompt the question of whether its organizers are getting fat off the grants,” according to the watchdog group’s complaint. Rockeymoore did not respond to multiple requests from the Washington Examiner for her nonprofit group’s most recent public financial records. Peter Flaherty, the chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, said she hung up the phone on him when he asked her for a copy.

When the Washington Examiner visited the listed business address for Rockeymoore’s consulting firm and nonprofit, a doorman said she had moved out of the office building over a year ago, did not leave a forwarding address, and the building has continued to get her companies’ mail. As committee chairman, Cummings, is embroiled in a legal battle to obtain President Trump’s tax returns.

Cummings recently subpoenaed Trump’s financial records, prompting the president to sue himin an effort to block the subpoena. Cummings struggled with serious financial problems after joining Congress over 20 years ago. His house was placed in foreclosure, at one point; he owed $30,000 in unpaid taxes to the IRS; and he was taken to court multiple times for thousands in unpaid debts. Cummings said his financial difficulties were due to his hefty child support payments.

Since marrying Rockeymoore 11 years ago, Cummings’ financial outlook has improved considerably, according to financial disclosure reports and property records. The couple currently owns two rental properties in Baltimore worth between $250,000 and $500,000 each, and last year, they sold their three-bedroom Victorian row house in northwest Washington, D.C. for $896,000.

Cummings disclosed in his financial reports that his wife earns an unspecified salary from Global Policy Solutions LLC; he did not disclose that she receives a salary from her nonprofit organization, which was $152,000 in 2016, according to the group’s tax records from that year.

 

I know this is a crazy theory here but maybe Trump isn't rubbing his sack in Cummings face because Cummings is black.  Maybe he is rubbing his sack in Cummings face because both Cummings and his wife are as crooked as a snake.




The President has demonstrated in a thousand different ways that he is abusing his office for personal gain, for both himself and his family. Why in the world do you just ignore that and focus on the other crooked politicians. What a joke.
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21 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 

 


The President has demonstrated in a thousand different ways that he is abusing his office for personal gain, for both himself and his family. Why in the world do you just ignore that and focus on the other crooked politicians. What a joke.

 

 

Because like every other drive by trumpkin on this thread (and in this country), he is a disingenuous fuck muppet. Also probably a racist piece of shit.

His thoughts/opinions are irrelevant, and he likely suffered brain damage from the coat hanger his mother shoved up her twat trying to make the world a better place. 

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3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Frankly, I'm rooting for it. I'm basically suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome.

When this ends, and holy hell will it be ugly, but when it does it is going to be somewhat difficult to transition back to a normal human being occupying the White House. We can disagree about many things, but I never felt that W or Obama were terrible human beings. I never disliked them. 

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1 hour ago, EMAWesome said:

Yeah, Trump called out Cummings because his is a mean, old racist.  I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/top-democrat-elijah-cummings-wife-may-have-gained-illegal-private-benefit-from-his-committee-activities

 

 

Trump is not capable of reading that entire article so no, it didn't have anything to do with that.

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I know this is a crazy theory here but maybe Trump isn't rubbing his sack in Cummings face because Cummings is black.  Maybe he is rubbing his sack in Cummings face because both Cummings and his wife are as crooked as a snake.

The fact that you highlighted this excerpt means you are a fucking moron/racist.  Ignore list initiated.  Enjoy Trumps' sack bitch.  

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Trump is not capable of reading that entire article so no, it didn't have anything to do with that.


Did that article mention ANYTHING that could be construed as some basis for calling Cummings a racist?

I didn’t see it, but I must be wrong because if I’m right, that would mean that EMAW made some bullshit non-responsive troll post that added nothing to the discussion. Surely that can’t be the case.
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1 hour ago, EMAWesome said:

Yeah, Trump called out Cummings because his is a mean, old racist.  I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/top-democrat-elijah-cummings-wife-may-have-gained-illegal-private-benefit-from-his-committee-activities

 

 

No, you Dumbfuck. He made his comments after watching Fox, not after reading an article from two months ago.

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uh, and btw, if trump had any knowledge of the contents of that article, we would know, because he likely wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

are you assuming, for even just a second, that trump knew about the allegations in that article, and instead decided to play the race card and insult cummings' district to exact some sort of punishment or revenge?  you're assuming he has that sort of self control?

he's playing zero-d chess here (also known as checkers).  he based his attacks on 2 things - (1) cummings runs oversight, which has been up his ass for obvious reasons, and (2) because of fox news.

every stupid fucking right wing rumor that seeps into his brain somehow makes it onto his twitter feed.  there's no vetting process or verification going on between his brain and his hunt-and-peck tweeting fingers.

if trump knew about actual impropriety, and instead attacked him this way, he's dumber than the people he's pandering to.

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22 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Sure glad we bailed GM out 10 years ago, only to have them move jobs to Mexico and shut down US factories.

 

22 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Sure glad we bailed GM out 10 years ago, only to have them move jobs to Mexico and shut down US factories.

They paid back every dime. Is it your position that the USA would be better off if GM didn't exist?

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

Elijah Cummings- You're a racist.

Trump- No racist. No racist. You're the racist!

This is it.  This is the entire republican party (not just the trumpkins, mind you) distilled.  This is as far as their brains go.  I can't believe the rest of us might lose to these regards.

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This is why Trump decided to tweet about Rep. Cummings and the conditions in Baltimore when he did not because of something he would have HAD TO READ (please note he himself brags that he doesn’t read) that was published two months ago.



If Trump ever tweets about something that seems to come out of nowhere or from out of the blue, just go check and see if Fox News did a story on the same subject within the hour.

You’ll 100% find one on the exact same topic.
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24 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

This is why Trump decided to tweet about Rep. Cummings and the conditions in Baltimore when he did not because of something he would have HAD TO READ (please note he himself brags that he doesn’t read) that was published two months ago.
 

 


If Trump ever tweets about something that seems to come out of nowhere or from out of the blue, just go check and see if Fox News did a story on the same subject within the hour.

You’ll 100% find one on the exact same topic.

 

i'm still lulzing over the idea that trump would be strategic or passive aggressive.

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6 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

We've all had somebody like this lean our way at a gathering and start expelling their idiocy with a wink and the certainty that we're kindred spirits.

The big blank idiocy is quite an obstacle.

This shit is something to behold.  When it happens you just cringe.  

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10 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

This is becoming SOP for Trump. He followed the exact formula when he started calling out the "Squad". First it was if you don't "love it" you can "leave it". When the four Congresswomen pushed back along with the rest of the civilized world he immediately followed with tweets calling the four Congresswomen racists. He's doing the same thing with Congressman Cummings. Send out a tweet with an underlying racial tone, then outright call him a racist. I never thought I'd see the day.

 

10 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

This is becoming SOP for Trump. He followed the exact formula when he started calling out the "Squad". First it was if you don't "love it" you can "leave it". When the four Congresswomen pushed back along with the rest of the civilized world he immediately followed with tweets calling the four Congresswomen racists. He's doing the same thing with Congressman Cummings. Send out a tweet with an underlying racial tone, then outright call him a racist. I never thought I'd see the day.

The media must up their game across all platforms and stop chasing Trump down rabbit holes when he tries to divert attention from stories that need it. The Baltimore Sun, Washington Post and NYT,  should have run with this banner headline Sunday morning:

"House Oversight Chair subpoenas Jared and Ivanka's personal emails; Trump responds with racist tirade"

This is what set him off and what he wants to keep buried under his racist tweets. Stop falling for the old okIe doke, media There's a story here and it's not Trump well documented racism. He doesn't give about being called racist.

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One 2 line tweet 8 hours ago about the Gilroy shooting, which we now know resulted in 4 people dead and 15 injured. But let's continue the rant about Baltimore and add multiple tweets about Sharpton. Meh, it's just California where all those illegals or liberals live. 

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8 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

They paid back every dime. Is it your position that the USA would be better off if GM didn't exist?

Ford is paying back every dime because they took out a loan, but GM was given cash for stock to keep them afloat.  GM was also split into two entities, GM and GMAC became Ally Financial.  When the stocks were eventually sold for both, the government lost $10 billion against the $70 billion that was invested in GM.  So they still cost the tax payers money.

As far as if we would be better off if GM doesn't exist, we don't know that today.  If they continue to shut down factories in the US and move jobs elsewhere, then was the bailout worth it?  Maybe it still means something today to those that still have jobs now, but if the trend continues it's not going to mean much to future generations if the jobs are gone.  Credit Ford for doing a better job of managing their finances, and it was announced earlier this year they're building a new factory in Michigan and they're investing $1 billion in Chicago factories while adding jobs to that area.  I say all this as a consumer that has exclusively driven Pontiacs for the last 18 years, so I'm not a Ford fanboy.

 

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Yeah, if you just prefer GM products over Ford---I get it.  But I thought it was settled science that GM was, and is, the bigger of the two financial shitshows with regard to everything from rebranding, to the bailouts, to the restructure, to what they cost taxpayers, etc.  

Now Chrysler, there's a fun brand.  You know your company is being run really well, when you have to bring in a group of Italians to straighten things out.  And their flagship brands makes a whopping two models, and quite poorly I might add.   How the fuck they still sell Dodge cars is beyond me.  Nevermind what that company still owes the American taxpayers...

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