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It is sad that foreign democracies are rushing to congratulate Biden because they want to support democratically elected government. It's what we used to do for banana republics trying to go democratic. The nations of Europe feel that they need to legitimize American democracy. 

They really do feel sorry for this once exemplary place where we live. Thanks, Donald, for restoring respect for the United States.

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s a bridge to “all mail in votes are illegal now”

The supreme court even if all 9 were confirmed by Trump wouldn't even take up this case and if they did it would effectively mean the end of democracy in America, which means particularly in this election that there is no longer an America. The court would know the court didn't matter at all if they took up that case. I would do all kinds of federally illegal things, because I wouldn't follow any federal laws starting with that moment. 

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3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

It is sad that foreign democracies are rushing to congratulate Biden because they want to support democratically elected government. It's what we used to do for banana republics trying to go democratic. The nations of Europe feel that they need to legitimize American democracy. 

They really do feel sorry for this once exemplary place where we live. Thanks, Donald, for restoring respect for the United States.

actually pretty common and wasn't rushed at all, it was actually fairly delayed. 

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18 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Texags are prepping for a civil war due to Orange Man being cheated.

No, no, see, you're a loon or a kook for even raising the concern that we could see violence.

5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

It is sad that foreign democracies are rushing to congratulate Biden because they want to support democratically elected government. It's what we used to do for banana republics trying to go democratic. The nations of Europe feel that they need to legitimize American democracy. 

They really do feel sorry for this once exemplary place where we live. Thanks, Donald, for restoring respect for the United States.

Yes.  This is how fucking broken and far gone we are.  There is no win here, there is no possibility of a win.  The GOP wanted to kill our democracy to serve their own ends.  They've done it.  The only question now is who gets to govern the rubble.

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CROSBY, Texas (KTRK) -- A Crosby High School student was kept at home Monday after a video surfaced online showing him threatening President-elect Joe Biden while holding guns.

Crosby ISD told ABC13 the student is currently enrolled at the high school, and was kept home for an added safety precaution. In the 30-second video, the student asked where the other Trump supporters are at and said they should meet up to "assassinate Joe Biden."

 


The student held two guns during the video, and ended it by saying, "Where you at Joe Biden? I'm coming for you."

Crosby ISD said it received notification of the video on Sunday. District officials added that it wasn't recorded on school property, and didn't mention any threats against any student or district employee. The district said the threat was investigated and cleared by federal authorities.

An FBI spokesperson told ABC13 it is aware of the video, but will not confirm or deny an investigation is taking place.

The FBI sent the following statement to ABC13 as well:
"We remind the public that the FBI, and all of our law enforcement partners, takes all threats seriously. Every threat is thoroughly investigated. Posting a threat online is a crime and comes with consequences, whether or not the person intended to carry out the threat. If you see a threat online, do not share it. Instead, please report it immediately to law enforcement."

The Harris County District Attorney's office said it determined no crime was committed, and the student's parents voluntarily turned over the weapons.

 


ABC13 legal expert Steve Shellist said he's shocked no charges were filed against the student. He said the boy could face a terroristic threat charge, even if he's a minor.

Here's the statement Crosby ISD sent to ABC13:

"The safety and well-being of our students and staff is a top priority in Crosby Independent School District. On Sunday, November 8th, the District received information indicating that a student enrolled at Crosby High School made a threat on social media against President-elect Joe Biden over the weekend. The threat did not occur on school property or during school time and did not involve school district resources. Although the student made no threats against any Crosby ISD student or staff member, the student will remain home today as an added safety precaution. The threat has been investigated and cleared by federal authorities. At this time, the District does not have any further information other than what has been reported by the media. Although the incident did not occur on school campus or at any District facility, the District stands ready to cooperate with law enforcement in any way it can. Crosby ISD takes this situation very seriously and we are committed to ensuring that all District students, parents, staff, and families are safe and protected while at school and school events."

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7 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

Yeah, but as @Lobo pointed out, she didn't concede until lunch the next day. LUNCHTIME! The fucking nerve indeed. Oh well, guess it's time to vote for <checks notes> GOP Board of Education.

I'm pretty sure she called him to concede on election night. 

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27 minutes ago, immamac said:

You guys talk about a cute civil war and think our global allies are going to stand by when a tyrant tries to turn the united states into a dictatorship? You are fucking smoking more crack than hunter biden did in his hayday. 

Boris fucking Johnson just tweeted confirming their recognition of Joe Biden as the President Elect. This isn't some bullshit newspaper fuck up. This is the country we fought a bloody fucking war against to gain freedom from last time, their entire government has looked over the situation and said "hey this looks safe to call for Joe" and then Boris gave him a call and started those conversations. 

I know we have the desensitized belief that other countries heads of state just tweet random bullshit that they haven't run past the rest of their very diligent and sensitive teams, but that isn't so, and especially not in the UK. 

Ain’t nobody got the stomach for a real Civil War.  People need to STFU and sit down.  

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

It won't be framed as cancelling the election or even declaring Trump the winner. While so many focus on the court cases and rational argument, the final move for Trump and his criminal accomplices in the GOP will be to declare that they are the ones saving democracy. Their cult and other hysterical rightists already believe that.

Shouldn't we be suspicious that Trump is removing a Secretary of Defense who vehemently opposes using the miltary domestically. In fact, the news opines that Trump fired him over that very issue. Esper wouldn't go along with Trump and the GOP senate employing the military to quell the violence likely to happen should Trump move to claim the office.

Let's say they find some ruling somewhere to provide the barest of justifications for doubting the vote. Let's say the Army lines the streets of Democratic cities with orders to save the republic from violent protest. Let's say 45% of the people not only support but cheer this because they've bought into the fear.

Does the shooting start? Does a largely complacent populace demonstrate that they will risk their lives for democracy? Can this anti-Trump contingent act in such a way that nullifies the lies and fear spewed for decades?

Both sides will claim they are for democracy. It doesn't matter to one side that they're full of shit and too stupid to even understand the simplest concepts upholding this republic.

I'm not holding on to a prediction about violence. I, too, was pacified by the victory. Even now, I predict nothing. However, I am beginning to feel dread. While Dems happily dance and celebrate, a very dark monster materializes just over the horizon.

I wouldnt have any concerns about fed troops being used domestically, even with Esper getting canned.  The reason Esper had to step out and denounce the use of the insurrection act was the blowback he was getting from down the chain.  There is zero chance that leaders would follow unlawful orders from a guy put in the seat for 2 months.  

I specified fed troops for a reason, there is greater than zero chance that NG troops get called up in response to unrest.  

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Just now, Neonmoon said:

He should be charged with a felony.

Just because you like LARPing as big man soldier boy revolutionary, they are consequences to actions. 

He was probably a crying baby when the fbi called or showed up. Like most of them would be for anything beyond making social media posts. 

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3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm pretty sure she called him to concede on election night. 

She may have called him that night, but I don't think so. She delivered concession speech the next day. And to be clear, the vote was close and I see absolutely no fucking problem with her waiting till the next day, I just remember laughing when I saw Lobo pissed that she waited so long.

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10 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

CROSBY, Texas (KTRK) -- A Crosby High School student was kept at home Monday after a video surfaced online showing him threatening President-elect Joe Biden while holding guns.

Crosby ISD told ABC13 the student is currently enrolled at the high school, and was kept home for an added safety precaution. In the 30-second video, the student asked where the other Trump supporters are at and said they should meet up to "assassinate Joe Biden."

 


The student held two guns during the video, and ended it by saying, "Where you at Joe Biden? I'm coming for you."

Crosby ISD said it received notification of the video on Sunday. District officials added that it wasn't recorded on school property, and didn't mention any threats against any student or district employee. The district said the threat was investigated and cleared by federal authorities.

An FBI spokesperson told ABC13 it is aware of the video, but will not confirm or deny an investigation is taking place.

The FBI sent the following statement to ABC13 as well:
"We remind the public that the FBI, and all of our law enforcement partners, takes all threats seriously. Every threat is thoroughly investigated. Posting a threat online is a crime and comes with consequences, whether or not the person intended to carry out the threat. If you see a threat online, do not share it. Instead, please report it immediately to law enforcement."

The Harris County District Attorney's office said it determined no crime was committed, and the student's parents voluntarily turned over the weapons.

 


ABC13 legal expert Steve Shellist said he's shocked no charges were filed against the student. He said the boy could face a terroristic threat charge, even if he's a minor.

Here's the statement Crosby ISD sent to ABC13:

"The safety and well-being of our students and staff is a top priority in Crosby Independent School District. On Sunday, November 8th, the District received information indicating that a student enrolled at Crosby High School made a threat on social media against President-elect Joe Biden over the weekend. The threat did not occur on school property or during school time and did not involve school district resources. Although the student made no threats against any Crosby ISD student or staff member, the student will remain home today as an added safety precaution. The threat has been investigated and cleared by federal authorities. At this time, the District does not have any further information other than what has been reported by the media. Although the incident did not occur on school campus or at any District facility, the District stands ready to cooperate with law enforcement in any way it can. Crosby ISD takes this situation very seriously and we are committed to ensuring that all District students, parents, staff, and families are safe and protected while at school and school events."

That he is not being charged for a crime is fucking bananas...unless he's white.  He's white, isn't he?

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CROSBY, Texas (KTRK) -- A Crosby High School student was kept at home Monday after a video surfaced online showing him threatening President-elect Joe Biden while holding guns.

Crosby ISD told ABC13 the student is currently enrolled at the high school, and was kept home for an added safety precaution. In the 30-second video, the student asked where the other Trump supporters are at and said they should meet up to "assassinate Joe Biden."
 
The student held two guns during the video, and ended it by saying, "Where you at Joe Biden? I'm coming for you."

Crosby ISD said it received notification of the video on Sunday. District officials added that it wasn't recorded on school property, and didn't mention any threats against any student or district employee. The district said the threat was investigated and cleared by federal authorities.
An FBI spokesperson told ABC13 it is aware of the video, but will not confirm or deny an investigation is taking place.

The FBI sent the following statement to ABC13 as well:
"We remind the public that the FBI, and all of our law enforcement partners, takes all threats seriously. Every threat is thoroughly investigated. Posting a threat online is a crime and comes with consequences, whether or not the person intended to carry out the threat. If you see a threat online, do not share it. Instead, please report it immediately to law enforcement."

The Harris County District Attorney's office said it determined no crime was committed, and the student's parents voluntarily turned over the weapons.
 
ABC13 legal expert Steve Shellist said he's shocked no charges were filed against the student. He said the boy could face a terroristic threat charge, even if he's a minor.

Here's the statement Crosby ISD sent to ABC13:

"The safety and well-being of our students and staff is a top priority in Crosby Independent School District. On Sunday, November 8th, the District received information indicating that a student enrolled at Crosby High School made a threat on social media against President-elect Joe Biden over the weekend. The threat did not occur on school property or during school time and did not involve school district resources. Although the student made no threats against any Crosby ISD student or staff member, the student will remain home today as an added safety precaution. The threat has been investigated and cleared by federal authorities. At this time, the District does not have any further information other than what has been reported by the media. Although the incident did not occur on school campus or at any District facility, the District stands ready to cooperate with law enforcement in any way it can. Crosby ISD takes this situation very seriously and we are committed to ensuring that all District students, parents, staff, and families are safe and protected while at school and school events."

Crosby gonna Crosby.
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51 minutes ago, immamac said:

You realize this would be an international conflict immediately if this happened right?

I'm trying to understand what you think this looks like. Can I see condemnation and tariffs? Sure, maybe. But do you see actual troops being put on American soil? And do you think that regardless of any misgiving they might have, the US military wouldn't suddenly and aggressively show up and attack foreign soldiers on our soil? I'm just not sure what you see happening in regards to an International Conflict. 

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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No, no, see, you're a loon or a kook for even raising the concern that we could see violence.

Yes.  This is how fucking broken and far gone we are.  There is no win here, there is no possibility of a win.  The GOP wanted to kill our democracy to serve their own ends.  They've done it.  The only question now is who gets to govern the rubble.

I hate nodding at that post as much as you hate writing it. I'm not writing us wholly off just yet, but the diminished faith by the right in elections and the shameless lawlessness of the GOP does not bode well.

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2 minutes ago, seven said:

I know we love locking people up in this country, but this kid needs help, not jail. 

He needs jail first.  Maybe he shouldn't be convicted, and placed in prison, as is the case with lots of other people, including a lot of people of color and a lot of people convicted of drug crimes.  Not sure how a lengthy prison sentence from him helps society.  But he needs face the real threat of loss of freedom, some time in jail, legal fees, etc. --consequences for his actions  And he needs to be  made an example of for anyone else thinking of threatening the President Elect.

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah well, probably 100 million brainwashed people in this country need help. Now what?

A minor talking about killing the president is extrapolated to 100 million brainwashed people. I'm not sure how to even respond to this. 

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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

I'm trying to understand what you think this looks like. Can I see condemnation and tariffs? Sure, maybe. But do you see actual troops being put on American soil? And do you think that regardless of any misgiving they might have, the US military wouldn't suddenly and aggressively show up and attack foreign soldiers on our soil? I'm just not sure what you see happening in regards to an International Conflict. 

I sure as shit see American forces being expelled from foreign countries, or at least banned from leaving base, etc.  If our military is taking part in hostilities against our own people, that military is going to be persona non grata in a lot of allied countries toot sweet.

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36 minutes ago, immamac said:
It's sad because Joe won PA without the 3 day extension. The 3 day extension turns this from a solid win to an uncontestable win.

I'm confused as to why they continue to bring up the 3 day extension when it's essentially irrelevant to the outcome.

It’s just more noise for the cult to scream into the wind about.

Just keep flinging that shit against the wall.

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1 minute ago, lemonlime said:

He needs jail first.  Maybe he shouldn't be convicted, and placed in prison, as is the case with lots of other people, including a lot of people of color and a lot of people convicted of drug crimes.  Not sure how a lengthy prison sentence from him helps society.  But he needs face the real threat of loss of freedom, some time in jail, legal fees, etc. --consequences for his actions  And he needs to be  made an example of for anyone else thinking of threatening the President Elect.

Just my opinion, but I don't think minors are where we should be making examples out of people. 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I sure as shit see American forces being expelled from foreign countries, or at least banned from leaving base, etc.  If our military is taking part in hostilities against our own people, that military is going to be persona non grata in a lot of allied countries toot sweet.

yeah, immediate trade embargos from everyone except mexico/russia/china. Expulsion from international bases and consulates combined with opening sanctuary for Americans wanting to flee would probably have a pretty substantial implosion on America overnight. 

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