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9 minutes ago, Marshall_Lucky said:

 

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I admit to being pretty baked, but that cracked my ass up. you don't even need the photo on the right to laugh, just that freak show on the left. His don't-give-a-fuck-atude is something to be admired

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48 minutes ago, Blotto said:

I admit to being pretty baked, but that cracked my ass up. you don't even need the photo on the right to laugh, just that freak show on the left. His don't-give-a-fuck-atude is something to be admired

And he flies to Palm Springs every couple weeks and spends 500 a cut on that. Sometimes you just have to respect the game

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3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

You are purposely being a contrarian just to show how badass and unwoke and anti-PC you are. Congrats on your awesomeness.

No one is saying that Gruden should be fired on the spot. But, if you honestly can't see why commenting on the largeness of a black man's lips is a bad idea that hits on some very well-known racial tropes, then you're a fucking idiot.

Can we still comment about how white people can't dance. Or play corner. Or don't have 10 inch dicks? 

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3 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

If his players like him enough to forgive him he’ll survive.  If they don’t he’s toast.

Good thing they are actually winning this year under Gruden. If he was like Urban and they were dogshit, he would be toast. Winning cures a lot of shit in sports.

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9 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Yeah, you wanna go there?  I guess you can either wade through tons of scat porn to prove whatever was said was racist or STFU.  Or even worse, you can roll into the CR here and I’m sure you can find at least one example.  Let’s see it…

Should we get into your posting history, Adolf?
 

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Interesting how some random email from 10 years ago comes out with a racial trope right as smith is being confirmed for his final term. I figure he released it to secure some sympathy vote or something. I don’t even think it was racist of gruden, more like racial. Dude insulted his big lips….Shit is just over the top sensitive to scream about racist.


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2 hours ago, Leanderman said:

Put on your big girl panties and go out and play some football.  I heard worse things than this across the line of scrimmage when I played football when moons ago.

This is the stupidest counter argument people make. No one cares what it was like when you played with dinosaurs. 

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11 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Who decided that when inappropriate race-related stuff comes out on a person, they must lose their current job (even if said issue happened prior to their current job) no matter what apology they offer, but after being fired if they seem apologetic then they are allowed to work again? Why can’t they just apologize and keep their current job, especially if the event predates their current employment? 

This phenomenon isn’t limited to race. When the Astros trash can scheme came out, Hinch and Luhnow were fired; and Cora and Beltran lost their jobs with other clubs. Hinch and Cora are already back, so what was the point?

Is there a statute of limitations? Will the social justice bloodlust be satiated before it gets to the point of people looking into others’ elementary school record for racial, gender, or mental handicapped insensitivity to get you fired decades later?

Is this an argument for more consequences or no consequences? If your kids fuck up do you chuck them in the dumpster or do you let it slide completely? It's a consequence. Losing your job and having to hope that you can find a new one is a consequence. There are consequences because society doesn't tolerate this behavior. There's not a statutory limit on how far back you're allowed to have said racist shit. If you think people should stop being pussies about racism, the market is free go sick.

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9 hours ago, Ridingtosunset said:

Can we still comment about how white people can't dance. Or play corner. Or don't have 10 inch dicks? 

"People are allowed to perpetuate white stereotypes, but not ones about minorities usually steeped in centuries of racism and abuse. It's not fair! Woe is me!"

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I have made lots of fun of what I perceive to be over-the-top wokeness on this site, (as well as Aggyesque racist behavior,) but wow, that sure seems like a pretty awful thing for Gruden to have put in an EMAIL. Also, it was in 2010. We ain’t talking about the 80’s here. I don’t know about everyone else here, but it still never ceases to amaze me how stupid people in public positions can act. This is pretty basic stuff and we shall see how it plays out for him. Not sure if he should get cancelled, but he has really screwed himself here. 

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18 hours ago, ztejas said:

Will he actually get fired for this?

You realize the only reason this came out is because someone paid for it to come out right?

Same story as before, turns the raiders around and gets shit canned lol Chuckie didn't learn.

He should get back in the booth

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1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Same story as before, turns the raiders around and gets shit canned lol Chuckie didn't learn.

He wasn’t shitcanned the first time. Al Davis traded him to Tampa for a first round pick then he won a super bowl the first year. 

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Well it makes sense why this got out. (Although it’s interesting we learned about these emails from the NFL investigation into the WFT which the NFL won’t disclose anything about.) the NFL wants the Raiders to make a decision since these emails were sent when Gruden wasn’t a coach and subject to their NFL policy shit. But ya…seeing what he wrote I get why the NFL wants his ass gone.

“Per the report, Gruden in the emails called Commissioner Roger Goodell a “f—-t” and a “clueless antifootball pussy.” Gruden also said that Goodell should not have pressured former Rams coach Jeff Fisher to draft “queers,” in reference to Michael Sam, a seventh-round pick of the team in 2014.

Meanwhile, an openly gay player, Carl Nassib, currently plays for Gruden.

Gruden also reportedly used “offensive language to describe some owners, coaches and journalists who cover the league.”

As explained in the article, “Allen and Gruden appeared to have few boundaries in expressing homophobic and transphobic language.” They mocked Buccaneers owner Bryan Glazer. They mocked Caitlyn Jenner. They criticized efforts to change the name of the Washington franchise. Gruden commented, “Nice job roger” in response to a sexist meme of a female referee.”

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1 minute ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:
22 minutes ago, South Austin said:
None of that sounds good.

He's done. There's something about a giant douche nozzle hanging himself with his own rope that makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside.

As a player, how can you believe he isn't saying shit like that about you?

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