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I mean history is littered with examples of why you don't hire someone just because it feels good, or because it feels like you should. Just look at Hubert Davis recently.

History is also filled with examples that prove hiring D1 coaches is hard in general. There are very few sure things, which is why coaches that fall into that bucket set the top of the market. There is no evidence that RT is being offered the job in lieu of a sure thing, while there is evidence that other credible D1 schools would be interested in hiring him if we didn’t.

CDC used his option value period and made a reasonable call with the information he has. He had no reason to make a decision before the season ended and he collected a lot of additional data during the process. He got the most data on RT, while also getting data via the tournament on a bunch of alternative options. Time will tell how this plays out, but the data supports the decision.
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I'm a huge fan of him as a person. Didn't love his "leave the older guys in for most of the second half" strategy for the tournament, especially yesterday.

He's earned a chance to prove himself. So I hope he does and we enjoy success under him for years to come. 

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Donewald is likely to stay. That's really big.
 
Texas was always going to play defense. Beard built the team around it and that aspect wasn't going away. It was the cornerstone of the team's success. But Texas really turned the corner when Beard gave Donewald control of the offense before the season started. At that point Texas went from a conference title contender to a national title contender. Donewald is a long-time coach, tons of international experience. China, where Yao Ming went to him for help in hiring a coach. Russia. Serbia. Elsewhere. Be glad he ultimately landed in Austin. His influence on the offense has been wide and deep. We went from a liability on that side of the ball to an asset that could win games, and not lose them. More than anything, Donewald's work with the interior players was nothing short of great. Disu's development, we saw, was especially outstanding. We saw some offensive lapses deep in the game yesterday but, overall, we have to be very happy with the progress on that side of the ball this season. That's on Donewald. 
 
Along with Terry, Donewald will be rewarded for his work this season and it's well deserved. As mentioned, it sounds like he'll be staying. Texas needs to make sure that happens. 
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8 hours ago, Pancho said:

Disagree. He also has to handle our assistant coaches. He can’t do this alone. 

What kind of assistant does he need to hire to improve the team and staff? A more x's and o's kind of guy? Terry is a good recruiter so something to supplement that?

7 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

I'm glad but I hope it's not for more than three years.

Gotta see what what he can do when he's building the team on his own, without Beard's guidance.

 

Would be fantastic if he can keep things going in a positive direction!

He's a likeable guy.

If it's 3 years or less then we are basically fucking his tenure over from the start.

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8 hours ago, Pancho said:

It is. And it’s unfortunate. I like RT as a person. I do think we will be looking for a new HC in a few years. 

The assistant coaching staff RT weaves together is critical for his success.

Hopefully RT learns how to free up his team better in crunch time.  Texas really needs to take better care of the ball in the last 10 mins of games and get to the foul line more.

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23 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

From the guy who predicted we’d struggle against Colgate 


And the guy who said we'd be lucky to win 2-3 games in football last season and would get blown out in many of them.

When Beard was fired, the most popular choices to replace him were Sampson, Calipari, Oats, Musselman and a few others. All of them were at home watching Rodney Terry and the Texas Longhorns in the Elite 8 yesterday.

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Folks saying that a 3yr contract is bad and 5yr is appropriate -- what about a 4yr contract??   On a compensation level, maybe CDC doesn't necessarily have to pay more than what Cronin and Buzz are paid  -- give RT more money for his assistant coaching staff.

 

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Top-10 Highest-Paid College Basketball Coaches in March, 2023

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  1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million
  2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million
  3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million
  4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million
  5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million
  6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million
  7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million
  8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million
  9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million
  10. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million

 

1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million

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John Calipari is the highest-paid coach in college basketball in 2023. The Hall of Famer’s salary of over $8 million per year means he earns over $2 million more than his nearest coaching colleague.

Calipari is the top-paid coach in college basketball for good reason. He was hired by the Kentucky Wildcats in 2009, and since then has won a national championship, and has four Final Four appearances to his name. However, the last one came way back in 2015. Kentucky fans will be eager for more success in the NCAA tournament over the next few years.

Calipari joined the Wildcats from Memphis where he guided the program to three consecutive Elite Eights, and a national championship game. However, Memphis was forced to vacate its national championship appearance. That wasn’t the first time NCAA violations caught up with Coach Cal. He also had to vacate a Final Four appearance in his first head coaching gig at Massachusetts.

With that being said, Calipari’s tournament record is superb and it shows in his contract. Calipari’s success in the NCAA Tournament has helped him establish himself as one of the most successful coaches in college basketball history.

2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million

Coming in as the second-highest-paid coach in college basketball is Bill Self of Kansas. Self’s current contract is a rolling five-year deal that automatically adds an extra year to the agreement after each season. He signed this contract on March 31, 2021, after completing his 18th season as head coach.

Self has had extraordinary success in his time with the Jayhawks. He has won two national championships, in 2008 and 2022. Additionally, he has helped Kansas reach the NCAA tournament in every year of his tenure. Included in that are ten Elite Eight and four Final Four appearances.

Self was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2017 and is currently ranked 18th for most wins by a Division I college basketball coach.

3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million

Tom Izzo is now the longest-serving active coach on the same team in Division I men’s college basketball. Izzo has been the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans since 1995, and during his tenure, he has led the Spartans to eight Final Four appearances and one national championship.

Izzo has also led the Spartans to six Big Ten Tournament championships and ten Big Ten regular season championships. His success in conference play has helped cement Michigan State’s status as one of the top programs in the country and has made Izzo one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.

Izzo’s success at Michigan State has made him one of the most respected and accomplished coaches in college basketball, and his longevity with the Spartans is a testament to his dedication and success with the program.

4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million

Rick Barnes joined Tennessee in 2015 after previously coaching at Texas and Clemson. In 2022, Barnes signed a contract extension that will keep him at Tennessee through the 2026-2027 season. In the 2022-23 season, he was the highest-paid state employee in Tennessee with a salary of $5.45 million.

Under Barnes’ leadership, Tennessee has made four  NCAA Tournament appearances. Their best run came in 2019 when the team reached the Sweet Sixteen. Barnes has also led the Volunteers to a regular-season SEC championship in 2018 and an SEC tournament championship in 2022.

Overall, Barnes’ success throughout his career has made him a respected coach in the college basketball community and his time at Tennessee has helped elevate the profile of the Volunteers program.

5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million

Bruce Pearl joined Auburn in 2014 after previously coaching at Tennessee and Milwaukee. In 2022, he signed an eight-year deal worth over $50 million. Pearl’s $5.4 million salary in the 2022-23 season is enough to place him fifth in the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches.

Under Pearl’s leadership, the Tigers have made several NCAA Tournament appearances, including a Final Four appearance in 2019.

In addition to his success in the NCAA Tournament, Pearl has also led Auburn to several regular-season championships in the SEC. In 2022, the Tigers won the SEC Conference regular season championship for the second time under Pearl’s leadership, with a 24-6 overall record and a 14-4 record in conference play.

Pearl is known for his high-energy coaching style and his ability to connect with his players, which has helped him build successful programs at multiple universities.

Bruce Pearl’s success at Auburn has cemented his legacy as one of the top coaches in college basketball, and his leadership has helped position the Tigers as a consistent contender in the SEC and on the national stage.

6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million

Tony Bennett has been with UVA since 2009. During his tenure at Virginia, Bennett has established himself as one of the most respected coaches in college basketball, known for his defensive-minded approach to the game and his emphasis on teamwork and character.

Under Bennett’s leadership, the Cavaliers have become one of the top programs in college basketball, with numerous NCAA Tournament appearances and a national championship in 2019. Bennett signed his seven-year deal with the Cavaliers the same year and rejected a raise after the team won the national championship.

Bennett’s success at Virginia has earned him numerous accolades, including several ACC Coach of the Year awards and the Naismith Coach of the Year Award in 2018 and 2019.

7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million

Brad Underwood has quickly made his mark at Illinois, leading the team to several successful seasons and earning accolades such as the 2021 Big Ten Coach of the Year award after joining the program in 2017.

Underwood has already led the Illini to a Big Ten tournament win. Additionally, he has won the Big Ten regular season championship in his first six seasons with the program. He will be keen to make a bigger impression in future NCAA tournaments, having only reached the round of 32 twice so far.

He will have plenty of time to do so, having recently signed an extension that runs through the 2027/28 season.

8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million

Bob Huggins has had a long and successful coaching career, with over 900 career wins and several NCAA Tournament appearances, including two Final Four appearances in 1992 and 2010.

Huggins had successful spells at Akron, Kansas State, and Cincinnati before heading to WVU in 2007. During his time at Cincinnati, Huggins led the Bearcats to 14 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances and a Final Four appearance in 1992. He also won nine conference championships during his tenure at Cincinnati.

During his time at West Virginia, Huggins has led the Mountaineers to multiple NCAA Tournament appearances and one Final Four run in 2010. Additionally, Huggins has won multiple conference championships, including four regular-season titles and three conference tournament titles during his tenure at West Virginia.

Huggins is known for his ability to get the most out of his players. He is also one of the most colorful coaches in college basketball, known for his unique fashion sense.

His current contract with the Mountaineers runs through the end of the 2024 season.

T9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million

Mick Cronin has been with the UCLA Bruins since 2019. Prior to joining UCLA, Cronin coached at Cincinnati for 13 seasons, where he led the Bearcats to nine NCAA Tournament appearances and won four conference championships.

Cronin’s emphasis on defense has helped him develop successful teams at both Cincinnati and UCLA, and his ability to connect with his players and motivate them to play at their best has made him one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.

Under Cronin’s leadership, UCLA has quickly become a competitive program in the Pac-12 conference, making several deep runs in the NCAA Tournament, including a Final Four appearance in 2021.

The Bruins look set for another deep run in this year’s March Madness tournament after winning the Pac-12 conference regular season championship. Top US sportsbooks believe they are among the favorites to win the national championship.

T9. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million

At 50 years old, Buzz Williams is the youngest head coach on our list of the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches. He has been at the Texas A&M Aggies since 2019. Prior to joining Texas A&M, Williams coached at Virginia Tech for five seasons, where he led the Hokies to three NCAA Tournament appearances and one Sweet Sixteen run.

Williams is another coach known for his intense coaching style and energy on the sidelines. Under Williams’ leadership, Texas A&M has quickly become a competitive program in the SEC, making strides toward becoming a consistent contender in the conference.

They will enter this year’s NCAA tournament with an impressive 25-8 record and will be looking to make a deep run

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

When Beard was fired, the most popular choices to replace him were Sampson, Calipari, Oats, Musselman and a few others. All of them were at home watching Rodney Terry and the Texas Longhorns in the Elite 8 yesterday.

Sure.  But all of those guys still have a better coaching resume than Rodney Terry.

Let's say Terry was a first-year head coach at another program, like LSU, and took them to the Elite Eight this year, but otherwise had his same head coaching resume.  If Texas is looking for a head basketball coach, I doubt CDC includes Terry in the conversation with those other coaches.

I'm in favor of the Terry hire, I think we should give him a 5-year contract with a nice salary, and I look forward to seeing what he can do in the next 2-3 years (we all should reasonably temper expectations for next year given the talent and depth we're losing).  But it was a unique circumstance that got him the job, and not because he's a better candidate than those guys and other names who were thrown around.

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Folks saying that a 3yr contract is bad and 5yr is appropriate -- what about a 4yr contract??   On a compensation level, maybe CDC doesn't necessarily have to pay more than what Cronin and Buzz are paid  -- give RT more money for his assistant coaching staff.
 
Found this...
Top-10 Highest-Paid College Basketball Coaches in March, 2023
  1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million
  2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million
  3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million
  4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million
  5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million
  6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million
  7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million
  8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million
  9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million
  10. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million
 
1. John Calipari, Kentucky — $8.1 Million
john-calipari-2.webp
John Calipari is the highest-paid coach in college basketball in 2023. The Hall of Famer’s salary of over $8 million per year means he earns over $2 million more than his nearest coaching colleague.
Calipari is the top-paid coach in college basketball for good reason. He was hired by the Kentucky Wildcats in 2009, and since then has won a national championship, and has four Final Four appearances to his name. However, the last one came way back in 2015. Kentucky fans will be eager for more success in the NCAA tournament over the next few years.
Calipari joined the Wildcats from Memphis where he guided the program to three consecutive Elite Eights, and a national championship game. However, Memphis was forced to vacate its national championship appearance. That wasn’t the first time NCAA violations caught up with Coach Cal. He also had to vacate a Final Four appearance in his first head coaching gig at Massachusetts.
With that being said, Calipari’s tournament record is superb and it shows in his contract. Calipari’s success in the NCAA Tournament has helped him establish himself as one of the most successful coaches in college basketball history.
2. Bill Self, Kansas — $6 Million
Coming in as the second-highest-paid coach in college basketball is Bill Self of Kansas. Self’s current contract is a rolling five-year deal that automatically adds an extra year to the agreement after each season. He signed this contract on March 31, 2021, after completing his 18th season as head coach.
Self has had extraordinary success in his time with the Jayhawks. He has won two national championships, in 2008 and 2022. Additionally, he has helped Kansas reach the NCAA tournament in every year of his tenure. Included in that are ten Elite Eight and four Final Four appearances.
Self was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2017 and is currently ranked 18th for most wins by a Division I college basketball coach.
3. Tom Izzo, Michigan State — $5.7 Million
Tom Izzo is now the longest-serving active coach on the same team in Division I men’s college basketball. Izzo has been the head coach of the Michigan State Spartans since 1995, and during his tenure, he has led the Spartans to eight Final Four appearances and one national championship.
Izzo has also led the Spartans to six Big Ten Tournament championships and ten Big Ten regular season championships. His success in conference play has helped cement Michigan State’s status as one of the top programs in the country and has made Izzo one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.
Izzo’s success at Michigan State has made him one of the most respected and accomplished coaches in college basketball, and his longevity with the Spartans is a testament to his dedication and success with the program.
4. Rick Barnes, Tennessee — $5.45 Million
Rick Barnes joined Tennessee in 2015 after previously coaching at Texas and Clemson. In 2022, Barnes signed a contract extension that will keep him at Tennessee through the 2026-2027 season. In the 2022-23 season, he was the highest-paid state employee in Tennessee with a salary of $5.45 million.
Under Barnes’ leadership, Tennessee has made four  NCAA Tournament appearances. Their best run came in 2019 when the team reached the Sweet Sixteen. Barnes has also led the Volunteers to a regular-season SEC championship in 2018 and an SEC tournament championship in 2022.
Overall, Barnes’ success throughout his career has made him a respected coach in the college basketball community and his time at Tennessee has helped elevate the profile of the Volunteers program.
5. Bruce Pearl, Auburn — $5.4 Million
Bruce Pearl joined Auburn in 2014 after previously coaching at Tennessee and Milwaukee. In 2022, he signed an eight-year deal worth over $50 million. Pearl’s $5.4 million salary in the 2022-23 season is enough to place him fifth in the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches.
Under Pearl’s leadership, the Tigers have made several NCAA Tournament appearances, including a Final Four appearance in 2019.
In addition to his success in the NCAA Tournament, Pearl has also led Auburn to several regular-season championships in the SEC. In 2022, the Tigers won the SEC Conference regular season championship for the second time under Pearl’s leadership, with a 24-6 overall record and a 14-4 record in conference play.
Pearl is known for his high-energy coaching style and his ability to connect with his players, which has helped him build successful programs at multiple universities.
Bruce Pearl’s success at Auburn has cemented his legacy as one of the top coaches in college basketball, and his leadership has helped position the Tigers as a consistent contender in the SEC and on the national stage.
6. Tony Bennett, Virginia — $4.83 Million
Tony Bennett has been with UVA since 2009. During his tenure at Virginia, Bennett has established himself as one of the most respected coaches in college basketball, known for his defensive-minded approach to the game and his emphasis on teamwork and character.
Under Bennett’s leadership, the Cavaliers have become one of the top programs in college basketball, with numerous NCAA Tournament appearances and a national championship in 2019. Bennett signed his seven-year deal with the Cavaliers the same year and rejected a raise after the team won the national championship.
Bennett’s success at Virginia has earned him numerous accolades, including several ACC Coach of the Year awards and the Naismith Coach of the Year Award in 2018 and 2019.
7. Brad Underwood, Illinois — $4.6 Million
Brad Underwood has quickly made his mark at Illinois, leading the team to several successful seasons and earning accolades such as the 2021 Big Ten Coach of the Year award after joining the program in 2017.
Underwood has already led the Illini to a Big Ten tournament win. Additionally, he has won the Big Ten regular season championship in his first six seasons with the program. He will be keen to make a bigger impression in future NCAA tournaments, having only reached the round of 32 twice so far.
He will have plenty of time to do so, having recently signed an extension that runs through the 2027/28 season.
8. Bob Huggins, West Virginia — $4.2 Million
Bob Huggins has had a long and successful coaching career, with over 900 career wins and several NCAA Tournament appearances, including two Final Four appearances in 1992 and 2010.
Huggins had successful spells at Akron, Kansas State, and Cincinnati before heading to WVU in 2007. During his time at Cincinnati, Huggins led the Bearcats to 14 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances and a Final Four appearance in 1992. He also won nine conference championships during his tenure at Cincinnati.
During his time at West Virginia, Huggins has led the Mountaineers to multiple NCAA Tournament appearances and one Final Four run in 2010. Additionally, Huggins has won multiple conference championships, including four regular-season titles and three conference tournament titles during his tenure at West Virginia.
Huggins is known for his ability to get the most out of his players. He is also one of the most colorful coaches in college basketball, known for his unique fashion sense.
His current contract with the Mountaineers runs through the end of the 2024 season.
T9. Mick Cronin, UCLA — $4.1 Million
Mick Cronin has been with the UCLA Bruins since 2019. Prior to joining UCLA, Cronin coached at Cincinnati for 13 seasons, where he led the Bearcats to nine NCAA Tournament appearances and won four conference championships.
Cronin’s emphasis on defense has helped him develop successful teams at both Cincinnati and UCLA, and his ability to connect with his players and motivate them to play at their best has made him one of the most respected coaches in college basketball.
Under Cronin’s leadership, UCLA has quickly become a competitive program in the Pac-12 conference, making several deep runs in the NCAA Tournament, including a Final Four appearance in 2021.
The Bruins look set for another deep run in this year’s March Madness tournament after winning the Pac-12 conference regular season championship. Top US sportsbooks believe they are among the favorites to win the national championship.
T9. Buzz Williams, Texas A&M — $4.1 Million
At 50 years old, Buzz Williams is the youngest head coach on our list of the top-ten highest-paid college basketball coaches. He has been at the Texas A&M Aggies since 2019. Prior to joining Texas A&M, Williams coached at Virginia Tech for five seasons, where he led the Hokies to three NCAA Tournament appearances and one Sweet Sixteen run.
Williams is another coach known for his intense coaching style and energy on the sidelines. Under Williams’ leadership, Texas A&M has quickly become a competitive program in the SEC, making strides toward becoming a consistent contender in the conference.
They will enter this year’s NCAA tournament with an impressive 25-8 record and will be looking to make a deep run
 
 

Why are people hung up on the “safety” of a shorter contract to begin with? It makes almost no sense. Give him a deal that sends the right message to recruits and portal targets. In ~3 seasons we’ll know what we have. He’ll either get extended or fired, but at least he’ll start off Day 1 with the best chance to succeed.
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Genuinely don't understand the hand-wringing about this.  Maybe if there was a Chris Beard circa 2021 no-brainer option out there then I would, but there simply isn't.  Every single option (besides maybe luring Jay Wright out of retirement, which I've read isn't happening) would have just as many question marks as Terry.

This is the first team in decades that I felt consistently performed to it's talent level.  We lost our best player mid-tournament and were still knocking on the door of the final four.  You can't merely brush aside Terry getting this team to play to its appropriate level when that is pretty much unprecedented in the history of our program.

Generally disagree with the "Texas fanbase has unrealistic expectations" discourse, but some of the discussion I've seen around Terry certainly warrants that label.  Choosing a big name (although, again - who even would that be???) over proven success would be a "We're Texas" move, in the most negative way.

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5 minutes ago, RichUT said:

 
 

Why are people hung up on the “safety” of a shorter contract to begin with? It makes almost no sense. Give him a deal that sends the right message to recruits and portal targets. In ~3 seasons we’ll know what we have. He’ll either get extended or fired, but at least he’ll start off Day 1 with the best chance to succeed.

Plus it ain’t my money 

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37 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:



When Beard was fired, the most popular choices to replace him were Sampson, Calipari, Oats, Musselman and a few others. All of them were at home watching Rodney Terry and the Texas Longhorns in the Elite 8 yesterday.

So was Jay Wright and Billy Donovan!

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42 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


And the guy who said we'd be lucky to win 2-3 games in football last season and would get blown out in many of them.

When Beard was fired, the most popular choices to replace him were Sampson, Calipari, Oats, Musselman and a few others. All of them were at home watching Rodney Terry and the Texas Longhorns in the Elite 8 yesterday.

Head back to twitter/Facebook, boomer. Your photos are overrated, and it’s lame that you monetized small town Texas for your own personal gain.

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18 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

Head back to twitter/Facebook, boomer. Your photos are overrated, and it’s lame that you monetized small town Texas for your own personal gain.

Dude you said you went through a rough patch but you were out of the woods. Why are you being a jerk?

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2 minutes ago, horn4life said:

The bottom line is exactly as I predicted weeks ago.  The potential negatives of not hiring Terry, are simply larger than any positive from any so-called big name hire.  

My question for the big name guys currently is what big name guy is actually available and would say yes?

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4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Dude you said you went through a rough patch but you were out of the woods. Why are you being a jerk?

He’s just a piece of shit human being and his posting history reflects that, way beyond his Terry obsession. Not a genuine bone in his body. 

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6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

He’s just a piece of shit human being and his posting history reflects that, way beyond his Terry obsession. Not a genuine bone in his body. 

Haven't seen his other posts.  He just seems to not like Rodney. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

Head back to twitter/Facebook, boomer. Your photos are overrated, and it’s lame that you monetized small town Texas for your own personal gain.

Totally unnecessary and your opinion isn't shared by most. Hornius is a good guy and I like his content.

 

Seriously about a week ago you had a mea culpa and asked for forgiveness.  The moment we lose you turn?  I know this is surly and we say things for effect, but you're a bit out of line here.

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Winning is the tournament is such a crapshoot at times. So many factors out of your control contribute can help contribute to your success in March. It’s why I was always pretty whatever on Terry’s future being determined by the tournament or crossing off a potential candidate because they got bounced early.

Basketball is a sport where long trend lines matter more than small sample sizes. Coach K didn’t make it out of the first weekend in 30% of his tournament appearances and lost to a 14 and 15 seed at Duke but he also made it to the Final Four in 37% of his tournament appearances. 

We have not had the basketball success we desire the last 15 years or so. I think everyone here has the expectation that we should be in the tournament pretty much every year unless half the roster gets hurt or something funky, and should be making appearances in the second weekend at least every few years. Once you get to the sweet 16, anything can happen so just give yourself a chance to be in the fight.

Rodney Terry may not be a top 25 or 30 coach in CBB or whatever if you want to go through an rank everyone right now, but like I said last night half the battle nowadays is player acquisition and retention with NIL, and Terry seems to have that part down with the support of current and former players. I think that will be important and the continuity in the staff should serve as a good springboard for keeping the momentum we have. I have seen much worse coaches than Rodney Terry make appearances in championship games or final fours in various sports. 

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14 minutes ago, F250 said:

Is Loop 1604 Rocko?

We haven’t heard anything about paystubs, or Corvettes or weight lifting or bench max or Korea so I’m going with “no”.

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6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

My question for the big name guys currently is what big name guy is actually available and would say yes?

I've yet to see this answered.

Our options are:

  • A guy who won his conference tournament and was the last under-4 seed remaining in the tournament
  • A guy who took his shirt off and then lost by 23 the next round and has never taken his team past the Elite 8
  • A guy who had multiple players from his team involved in a murder and then couldn't make it past the Sweet 16 as a 1 seed
  • A guy who signs more 5 stars than anyone yet hasn't made it past the first weekend in half a decade
  • A guy who we'd be asking to leave the NBA to return to college, despite no evidence he wants to do this
  • A guy who retired like a year ago and has a blossoming TV career

Who am I missing that is a better option?

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4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I've yet to see this answered.

Our options are:

  • A guy who won his conference tournament and was the last under-4 seed remaining in the tournament
  • A guy who took his shirt off and then lost by 23 the next round and has never taken his team past the Elite 8
  • A guy who had multiple players from his team involved in a murder and then couldn't make it past the Sweet 16 as a 1 seed
  • A guy who signs more 5 stars than anyone yet hasn't made it past the first weekend in half a decade
  • A guy who we'd be asking to leave the NBA to return to college, despite no evidence he wants to do this
  • A guy who retired like a year ago and has a blossoming TV career

Who am I missing that is a better option?

Bill Belichick

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Seems like we got the guy who makes the most sense, and it just so happens that he also has a good story that we can feel good about as CDC signs the contract. 

I'm skeptical, but realize he'll need two years to really be judged. Not expecting much next year. I do temper my optimism when people mention how much the team rallied "around" him after Beard got canned. The team was full of seniors and guys that had played a LOT of basketball. They knew this was their best shot after years of D1 experience to actually make a run. They rallied around each other just as much as they did him. I remember watching the interviews after Beard's arrest and hearing Carr and Allen talk about being leaders and just keeping the momentum going. . I enjoyed seeing their experience shine through in games like Penn State, where they saw some adversity and just kept pounding the rock until it broke.... that's veteran ball, and imo had as much to do with experience and having been in many of these situations before, as much as it had to do with Terry. Time will tell whether he can coach a team that has a bigger mix of experience vs inexperience. I hope he can. 

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No one really expected this to not happen?    Right?    And he did earn it.    I think it's safe to say many of us on here and outside our bubble expected this team to crash and burn after all the Beard crap in December.   They took a couple of licks in conference play, but balled when it counted and kicked KU's ass twice in a span of eight days and then made a damn good run to the elite eight which ended in part thanks to slanted officiating.   This is can't not do anything but help recruiting and attract some ballers in the transfer portal on top of the above mentioned NIL incentives and our kick ass Moody center.   

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I completely agree -- annual compensation means nothing to me.  UT is rich as shit, I'll never get any of it, I'm already taking it in the shorts with two kids at this school but they'll be out soon enough, and it sends a horrible message not to pay a top 10 salary with a top 10 term.

What matters is that we structure the contract so that it's not burdensome to get out of it if things go south.  I don't think Coach Terry has enough leverage to demand otherwise.

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12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I've yet to see this answered.

Our options are:

  • A guy who won his conference tournament and was the last under-4 seed remaining in the tournament
  • A guy who took his shirt off and then lost by 23 the next round and has never taken his team past the Elite 8
  • A guy who had multiple players from his team involved in a murder and then couldn't make it past the Sweet 16 as a 1 seed
  • A guy who signs more 5 stars than anyone yet hasn't made it past the first weekend in half a decade
  • A guy who we'd be asking to leave the NBA to return to college, despite no evidence he wants to do this
  • A guy who retired like a year ago and has a blossoming TV career

Who am I missing that is a better option?

Apparently, A guy who went .500 and zero tournament wins in a decade of prior head coaching experience. 

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44 minutes ago, Loop 1604 said:

Head back to twitter/Facebook, boomer. Your photos are overrated, and it’s lame that you monetized small town Texas for your own personal gain.

Dude....   Says someone who has a screen name Loop 1604 but has an avatar with Farm Road 1604.   

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Chris Beard killed it in the transfer portal.  It’s why we were all watching a Texas team on the verge of The Final Four Sunday.  But those transfer contracts (for lack of a better word) all expired yesterday so Terry’s 23-24’ team will be lacking massive transfer contributor’s Timmy Allen, Christian Bishop, Marcus Carr, and Sir’Jabari Rice, and likely Dylan Disu.  That’s basically the vast majority of the core of this Elite 8 team with exception of transfer Tyrese Hunter who was only a sophomore.  Time to find out if Terry can duplicate Beard’s build.  He definitely has things working in his favor (UT’s advantages in an NIL world, coming off Elite 8 run, new stadium, etc), it’s just we don’t have the evidence yet.  It’s a high standard he will be trying to match.  Time to find out if he can do it

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17 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I've yet to see this answered.

Our options are:

  • A guy who won his conference tournament and was the last under-4 seed remaining in the tournament
  • A guy who took his shirt off and then lost by 23 the next round and has never taken his team past the Elite 8
  • A guy who had multiple players from his team involved in a murder and then couldn't make it past the Sweet 16 as a 1 seed
  • A guy who signs more 5 stars than anyone yet hasn't made it past the first weekend in half a decade
  • A guy who we'd be asking to leave the NBA to return to college, despite no evidence he wants to do this
  • A guy who retired like a year ago and has a blossoming TV career

Who am I missing that is a better option?

Frank Stallone

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9 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

Seems like we got the guy who makes the most sense, and it just so happens that he also has a good story that we can feel good about as CDC signs the contract. 

I'm skeptical, but realize he'll need two years to really be judged. Not expecting much next year. I do temper my optimism when people mention how much the team rallied "around" him after Beard got canned. The team was full of seniors and guys that had played a LOT of basketball. They knew this was their best shot after years of D1 experience to actually make a run. They rallied around each other just as much as they did him. I remember watching the interviews after Beard's arrest and hearing Carr and Allen talk about being leaders and just keeping the momentum going. . I enjoyed seeing their experience shine through in games like Penn State, where they saw some adversity and just kept pounding the rock until it broke.... that's veteran ball, and imo had as much to do with experience and having been in many of these situations before, as much as it had to do with Terry. Time will tell whether he can coach a team that has a bigger mix of experience vs inexperience. I hope he can. 

You don’t expect much next year? Fuck that. I do. So kansas st can hire an assistant coach with Jo coaching experience who got some portals and coached them up to the EE and Florida Atlantic can take some 2/3 stars that are sophomores and a junior but we at Texas need to be patient with our new coach? Lmao. Basketball is the easiest of all the sports to get quick turnarounds using the portal wisely. And RT has two 5 stars coming in that are both highly rated that almost no new coach has, but hey let’s keep the expectations low for him. Baby steps. This is why we have sucked since Barnes left. I hope CDC has some expectations for a job we say is one of the best in the country. 

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31 minutes ago, horn4life said:

The bottom line is exactly as I predicted weeks ago.  The potential negatives of not hiring Terry, are simply larger than any positive from any so-called big name hire.  

This.

The AAS and other media outlets were salivating at a controversy of not hiring a black man who took over a horrible situation from a white dude assaulting his lady and took them to the Elite Eight, only to be told he didn’t do enough and we hire some white dude.

Thats now this university’s leadership rolls. CDC had no choice, honestly. If it’s a disaster in 3 years, then you can move on.

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