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Posted
11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/20/politics/biden-trump-campaign-contrasts/index.html

(Mentioned it upthread)

  • Since Super Tuesday, Biden has been to every battleground state but one
  • Trump has been to one (Georgia) and held a rally in not competitive red state Ohio (after cancelling a planned rally in Arizona)
  • Biden in the midst of his most grueling in-person campaigning since the 2020 primaries (pre-COVID)
  • Trump is golfing and hanging out at MAL "strategizing" and begging for money
  • Biden has spent a ton of time in PA - Trump has been once in 2024 (NRA convention)
  • Biden and Harris have both been to Wisconsin - Trump hasn't been since August 2022
  • Biden was just in Arizona and twice in the second half of 2023 - Trump hasn't been since October 2022
  • Trump plans to host "rallies" at MAL and Bedminster and force people to come to him

Also:

 

You forgot the Washington General's shoe launch in Philly.  Sure to turn voters heads.  

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

“… Biden is closing the gap with Trump….”

This fucking country.

That also implies a) polls are reliable and b) polls have been telling the truth

I don't agree with either, but they are optics and Biden "closing" the "gap" just makes people calm down.  Maybe the vibes will be a little better. 

I also think it's a combo of things:

  • Trump front and center again  - the media was not covering him (surprisingly) in a way that reminds voters who he really is.  The bloodbath comment has been front and center.
  • People can finally stop wishing for that mythical Dem candidate - it's Biden and it was always going to be Biden, but people be stupid
  • Soft Dems have registered their distaste of Biden in the primaries and are now rallying around him now that the race is 1v1
  • Biden's post-SOTU polling bump - not quite the doddering old man the media has been telling us he is

And that's before you even get into the bad polls that show Trump winning 20-25% of black voters and 40-50% of 18-34 lol.  That shit ain't happening. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

President Nixon Implicated in Watergate Break-In. Are The Democrats in Trouble in 76?

"President Bush tanked the economy.  Why this may provide a boost to Senator McCain's campaign" 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Bullshit.  Right now we have a neighbor dealing with an adult daughter with tremendous mental difficulty and there is literally no where for her to go.  Specifically blaming Reagan may not be entirely right, but he and his ilk, and their cost cutting no government services platform are to blame for this sort of thing.  He was the ring leader of this movement that found power and his doctrines have guided us to where we are today. Trickle down economics and tax cuts for the rich have a direct correlation with the suspension of government services, like mental health.  He doesn't get a bad rap, if anything he gets far more of a pass from most Americans.  Fuck him, and fuck that movement.  

Except it wasn't that movement responsible for the closing of state hospitals, and the shift to "community care," which was due in large part to Medicaid and well underway by 1970.

Reagan did some to lower/end federal spending on mental health, but by then it was on "community" care, not institutions.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

Are Trump voters the target?

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The goal is not to convince a Trump voter to change their mind.

The goal is to convince Haley voters to flip or not vote / leave it blank and to remind independents why they backed Biden in 2020.

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

I think they're mainly trying to discourage those voters on the margins, who might like Trump's policies somewhat but also don't want incompetent leadership and don't care enough about Trump to overcome their laziness and apathy. Ads that put Trump's incompetency under the spotlight could help keep those potential voters home.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

Yeah this ad targets soft GOP/independents to remind them of the chaos of the Trump presidency and how he bungled COVID.  

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The goal is not to convince a Trump voter to change their mind.

The goal is to convince Haley voters to flip or not vote / leave it blank and to remind independents why they backed Biden in 2020.

Nevertrumpers exist. Not enough of them, but they do exist. They might just need reminders for why it's better to vote Biden than to stay home, and permission to feel good about their decision to vote Biden.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

#1 - That ad is awesome.

#2 - it will not convince a single Trump voter to change his mind. Those idiots are immune to facts and logic at this point.

You could do many variations of that ad, which I hope is what they're planning. Do the economy next. Then the capitol attack. Then the impeachment in his final days. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

The devastating ad should be about the economy and job creation and infrastructure build.  I'm not sure the Covid focus excites Dems as much as it motivates Republicans to blame every bad thing that happened during Covid on the Dems.

Agreed, COVID provides a difficult compare vs 4 yrs ago. Better for focus on low unemployment, chips act, and other infra

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And really, the options are almost limitless. Do one showing all of his various legal "issues". End it with "Your president isn't facing 91 felony counts, doesn't owe half a billion dollars, and wasn't found liable of sexual assault. So, yes, we're better off."

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

they need to buy every free second on foxnews and nascar races 

Yeah, that's pretty bad, but have you heard that there's a picture book of Hunter Biden having sex with drag queens being given to school children as part of the woke curriculum? And the caravans of Mexican gang members are being let into the country and given amnesty for rape they commit? And that Biden is requiring McDonalds to charge $47.50 for a McChicken? And CRT is going to make being white a crime?

This is what he's up against. They don't fucking care about facts. They being half the goddamned country.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It's also to remind everyone how fucking inept Trump was at leading the country.  I genuinely think a lot of people have forgotten how batshit his daily press conferences were.

I know a lot of retroactive narratives have been written since, but there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump's handling of COVID is the primary reason Biden is in the White House right now.

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

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Posted
1 hour ago, 'stache said:

caravans of Mexican gang members are being let into the country and given amnesty for rape they commit? And that Biden is requiring McDonalds to charge $47.50 for a McChicken? And CRT is going to make being white a crime?

I could take this to the maga in laws and they would 100% nod along and probably be happy that I was finally coming around.

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Posted

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

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Posted
8 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

 

8 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

yall the wife and i recently binged through the q series on max and then get me roger stone

even in that, there was shit, like terribly outrageous stuff, that i had put out of my mind and I'm vindictive as fuck that still had me going what the fuck

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Posted
18 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

this shit right here.  i'm tired of reading stories about the country's collective amnesia about the trump presidency.  i remember it.  pepperidge farms remembers it.

 

18 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

one wonders how anyone could possibly forget

Counterpoint, it's hard for all of us to fathom just how unintelligent most of America actually is...

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Posted
57 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the electric vehicle stuff is going to play poorly in MI i fear.

Probably not as much as you fear.  People really overestimate this stuff. 

Posted
2 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the electric vehicle stuff is going to play poorly in MI i fear.

Is there some kind of state law that you can't build electric vehicles in Michigan? 

Whitmer and the state are already working to position Michigan as an EV/ battery manufacturing center (which makes sense obviously). I don't understand why conversion to EVs would scare Michigan voters. If everyone suddenly replaced ICE vehicles with EVs that would be a boon to Michigan, not a disaster. 

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Posted
12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

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Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

No telling what the Deep State implanted in him when he was in Walter Reed.
Posted
13 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Can't say I agree with reminding people of COVID 2020. 100% of the people still on the fence and still at least considering voting for Trump are somewhere on the "yeah, COVID was bad, but the government--largely Democrats--went too far" spectrum. That's just the reality.

I kind of agree with this.  It's too easy for dipshits, especially those with kids who had to stay home from school for months, to screech about how we overreacted.  Of course, the flip side of that coin is, what if we had under-reacted and the virus had been way worse and all of your precious little ones had died?  Might the shoe be on the other foot?

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Posted
10 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Shutdowns started under the Trump administration and he’s been jabbed plenty. Easiest message in the world

10 hours ago, TexPx said:

No telling what the Deep State implanted in him when he was in Walter Reed.

This is what we need to be pushing with the Qanon crowd.  

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Posted (edited)
On 3/21/2024 at 10:47 AM, Jive Turkey said:

Good lord they’re trying so hard to change the optics. 

 

The saying about these old magazines: "Look is the magazine for those who don't read.  Time is the magazine for those who don't think.'

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Posted
On 3/21/2024 at 12:27 PM, Radical Larry said:

They once had a good article about the nine members of Asian Dawn. 

Asian Dawn was the most viewed video on pornhub before one-eye shut it down from our fair state.

Or so I was told.  By a friend.  Who saved it to his/her hard drive.

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Posted
On 3/20/2024 at 9:15 PM, henrygandorf said:

there's a large group of americans who have identified as (r) for a long time, probably because their parents were, and have been so turned off by politics (ironically, because of people like trump), that they are purposely disinterested and disengaged.  so when they vote (r), they don't even have to hold their nose.  they purposely don't follow it, they don't talk politics with their friends, they distract themselves with family, kids, reality tv, whatever, and haven't paid attention in 10-15+ years.

there's no possible way 75mm people know what trump is all about and are like, cool, i'll pick him.  no fucking way.

I think it’s actually the exact opposite of that.  In today’s world, it’s literally impossible for anyone, save and except someone like Dick Proenneke maybe - if someone like that exists today - to not know what complete and utter pieces of shit Trump (and 100% of every other (R) out there) are - even if they are purposefully disengaged or disinterested.  It is incredibly depressing, but yes, 75MM people know exactly what Trump is about, and pull that lever.  
 

If someone tells you they vote for or support Trump, or any Republican for anything, they are telling you exactly who they are.  These people are similar to child sex offenders, or terrorists - there is no “yes, but, other he/she is an otherwise good person.”  No, they aren’t.  They are garbage.  

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