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22 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The penitent is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

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Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

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2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

Kinda feels like right before Obama was elected in his 1st term to me.

At least the vibes.

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2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

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16 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

This guy's ads are like a Chevy commercial. All we need is Bob Seger singing Like A Rock.

 

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1 hour ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

Shapiro would've been the safe choice to try to lock down a key electoral state. Walz is the choice to go balls to the wall and try to beat the hell out of the fascist fucks all across the heartland.

 

42 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

The news media will try to turn the story into "Harris did this or said that" horrible thing, because they want clicks and controversy. They're currently stymied because she was THE story for so long due to momentum. Now the story is her VP choice, and next (13 days) it will be more momentum, the Convention and the post-Convention bounce. However, for sure, the media will try as hard as possible to find a wedge story about a split in the Democratic party about something controversial, like the border or Palestine.

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28 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

@Brisketexan, please pick up the burnt orange courtesy phone.

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5 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Shapiro would've been the safe choice to try to lock down a key electoral state. Walz is the choice to go balls to the wall and try beat the hell out of the fascist fucks all across the heartland.

And Shapiro would have blunted momentum - labor unions are meh on him, he doesn’t excite progressive or young voters and he has a lot of things he’d be on defense about. Walz was the pick. If Harris isn’t winning PA by herself, she isn’t winning the election elsewhere 

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2 hours ago, G650 said:

They are posting through it I see

its the fucktarded "patriot" version of the band on the titantic

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Sad that this is what passes for politics these days. 
 

Here is that same choad when he was younger: 

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https://www.reverbnation.com/joeymannarino

This fucking loser tried to be an R&B act, lulz. But no talent = no money in the "influencer" world. these people are desperate for online clout, and magtards will give it, so he's trafficking in hate for those clicks. Just another in a long line of grifters will ride this Trump shitshow into their  grave. 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Unless you Founding Father deists and other quiet atheists/agnostics, I think Lieberman was the first and only non-Christian to ever be on any ticket. 

I give you George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, both non-Christians. and I know you said deists, But their flavor of deist was pointedly non-Christian.

George Washington’s pastor said that he was not a Christian, and that George refused to take communion.   When the pastor mildly rebuked him by saying they were important personages who were not taking communion, Washington walked out of church and never went back.    

If non-Christian is the litmus test then he passes it.  And we all know about Jefferson cutting out the superstitious parts of the Bible, leaving only the philosophical sayings of Jesus.

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

You are correct that the most superficial and naïve analysis would lead to this conclusion. The problem is that the assumptions are all wrong. Here are some of the completely incorrect assumptions you're basing this on. 

1. Shapiro VP with Walz as a campaign surrogate helps win Pennsylvania more than Walz VP with Shapiro as a campaign surrogate. 

2. The Jewish angle will have any traction beyond internet morons.

Hope that helps.

I THINK he was doing a chainsaw impression….or he’s just dumb.

Posted
On 8/2/2024 at 11:03 PM, Dahobbs said:

Good steaks don't require ketchup. Mediocre steaks don't require ketchup. Bad steaks aren't steaks. In short, you don't eat steaks with ketchup god damn it. 

I thought the sarcasm would be obvious. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

This? This is what they think is going to help them with the suburbs? 

Bwahaha!

There are 40 "sub-denominations" of Lutheranism.  Including "The Big 3" here in the U.S.  LCMS, WELS, and ELCA.  Having my father's side of my family deeply involved in the Lutheran Church over the past century (my great aunt was the first woman to graduate Harvard Divinity School and went on to become one of the first ordained ministers in the church after the the AALC/Synod shakeup/breakoff.  My paternal grandfather was a Church Elder in the LCMS for decades in both Illinois, North Carolina, and Florida.  There are a number of churches with plaques dedicated to him and his service.  All that to say, to this day, there is a lot of political infighting among Lutherans in the U.S. and Europe, and has been for centuries.  Such is the price you pay for being the first Protestant movement.  First guy through the wall always gets bloodied.  

But I'd like to give a friendly pro-tip to Lyman Stone and MAGA nation...85% of the U.S. is not Lutheran nor do they give fuck one about the differences within our protestant faith.  I'd add at least 1/3rd of Lutherans aren't active in the church and another 1/3rd don't really care about the divisiveness within the 'Big 3' sects.  So that means about 5% of all U.S. adults will actually take serious Walz's outlook on the Augsburg Confession.  

A country that elected a guy who clearly didn't even know the difference the two biblical testaments and thinks the Imperial Diet of the Holy Roman Empire is when an American Dictator gets all the ketchup on his pasta he wants.  Is suddenly gonna get wise on the 28 articles and hold it against a guy from Minnesota who is just happy to be with his family in a congregation of acceptance and faith and love on Sundays?  

You got a better shot at grabbing America's attention with the couch fucking thing.  

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26 minutes ago, Blotto said:

But no talent = no money in the "influencer" world.

This isn't true.  There are plenty of no talent ass clowns raking in big bucks in the dumbass influencer world.

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

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3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

There are 40 "sub-denominations" of Lutheranism.  Including "The Big 3" here in the U.S.  LCMS, WELS, and ELCA.  Having my father's side of my family deeply involved in the Lutheran Church over the past century (my great aunt was the first woman to graduate Harvard Divinity School and went on to become one of the first ordained ministers in the church after the the AALC/Synod shakeup/breakoff.  My paternal grandfather was a Church Elder in the LCMS for decades in both Illinois, North Carolina, and Florida.  There are a number of churches with plaques dedicated to him and his service.  All that to say, to this day, there is a lot of political infighting among Lutherans in the U.S. and Europe, and has been for centuries.  Such is the price you pay for being the first Protestant movement.  First guy through the wall always gets bloodied.  

But I'd like to give a friendly pro-tip to Lyman Stone and MAGA nation...85% of the U.S. is not Lutheran nor do they give fuck one about the differences within our protestant faith.  I'd add at least 1/3rd of Lutherans aren't active in the church and another 1/3rd don't really care about the divisiveness within the 'Big 3' sects.  So that means about 5% of all U.S. adults will actually take serious Walz's outlook on the Augsburg Confession.  

A country that elected a guy who clearly didn't even know the difference the two biblical testaments and thinks the Imperial Diet of the Holy Roman Empire is when an American Dictator gets all the ketchup on his pasta he wants.  Is suddenly gonna get wise on the 28 articles and hold it against a guy from Minnesota who is just happy to be with his family in a congregation of acceptance and faith and love on Sundays?  

You got a better shot at grabbing America's attention with the couch fucking thing.  

Especially since Walz is ELCA, and the default response to any rant about the differences is going to be a shrug of the shoulders, and to hand you a dessert bar or a scoop of some sort of salad. Also might open the door for a Rick Steves endorsement too. 

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The bullshit about antisemitism is hilarious. Conservatives vigorously decry people playing the race card the instant something negatively affects a minority, but they have no qualms doing the same bullshit to serve their ends. Exhibit eleventy billion that these people have no principles at all. 

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10 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Just in case we men need a reminder.

Just saying 

I bet the son of a bitch also wants to just hand out free toilet paper in schools!

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I feel like I should note on an ELCA note too, that we are the ones funding a lot of the refugee resettlement in the Midwest that people get pissy about. As our Pastor told us one Sunday, "If you complain about refugees, I don't know why you're here because that's what we are spending your offering on"

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18 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Just in case we men need a reminder.

Just saying 

i am reminded of the surly genius who remarked 'women use, what, like two or three tampons a day on their period? what's the big deal about the cost?' 

 

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Just now, mchookem said:

i am reminded of the surly genius who remarked 'women use, what, like two or three tampons a day on their period? what's the big deal about the cost?' 

 

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I don't know how many and I need a picture to make sure they are the right ones, but I'll get a case of them if that's what it takes.

And chocolate and wine or gummies 

Just stop hollering at me! I didn't do it!

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

To me with all the weird moves Trump is making I think his whole play is just to cry foul on election night and try to destroy the democracy again.

America gonna be like...

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Trumps biggest (maybe only?) move left is to go even harder to the extremes and court the RFKjr holdouts. Which would be hilarious if there wasn't a decent chance of it working.

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

Is it me or do you guys feel that the writers of 2024 are going to throw another curve ball that swings the pendulum back towards Trump and the republicans?! 

IDk. This good news stuff has got me worried. 

 

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

@Brisketexan, please pick up the burnt orange courtesy phone.

Oh, I've got you, fam.  Yes, I remain immensely worried.  Yes, all that matters is 5-8 states, so I don't give a shit if people nationwide have a boner for Harris-Walz or not, and yes, I've seen cascade of bad political outcome after bad political outcome, so I'm damned well expecting some giant turd to fall on us between now and 11/5.  I've got the pessimism front worried, don't you worry about that.

54 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I give you George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, both non-Christians. and I know you said deists, But their flavor of deist was pointedly non-Christian.

"DEIST?"  More like "DEI-ist," amirite?!  I mean, Jefferson was all in on DEI.  He even had sex with a black woman!  DEI COMMIE!

29 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

So that means about 5% of all U.S. adults will actually take serious Walz's outlook on the Augsburg Confession.  

I mean, to be honest, I thought "the Augsburg Confession" was that thing where I told my wife I'd like to have a threesome with her and German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock, seen here responding to my sales pitch:

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On 8/5/2024 at 10:01 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Sure, she has to keep them.  I'm just thinking out loud about how she should target various demographics.  If say 2/3 of the targeted group can't effect change, it's worth considering given somewhat limited resources.

Because of the opportunity to move the House and rebuke fascism she should be after everyone

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12 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

To me with all the weird moves Trump is making I think his whole play is just to cry foul on election night and try to destroy the democracy again.

That’s exactly his plan because they have radicals on the boards of states and in counties who they are counting on that won’t certify. 

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Tampontim is a thing?

What is this, third grade again?

Wait, don’t answer that

That’s exactly his plan because they have radicals on the boards of states and in counties who they are counting on that won’t certify. 

100% this. It’s going to be the shit show of all shit shows.
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53 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

There are 40 "sub-denominations" of Lutheranism.  Including "The Big 3" here in the U.S.  LCMS, WELS, and ELCA.  Having my father's side of my family deeply involved in the Lutheran Church over the past century (my great aunt was the first woman to graduate Harvard Divinity School and went on to become one of the first ordained ministers in the church after the the AALC/Synod shakeup/breakoff.  My paternal grandfather was a Church Elder in the LCMS for decades in both Illinois, North Carolina, and Florida.  There are a number of churches with plaques dedicated to him and his service.  All that to say, to this day, there is a lot of political infighting among Lutherans in the U.S. and Europe, and has been for centuries.  Such is the price you pay for being the first Protestant movement.  First guy through the wall always gets bloodied.  

blah blah blah

 My invisible friend says your invisible friend is stupid and made up!

Trumpkins are going to believe whatever they are told by Trump.  I can't imagine that any meaningful % of supposedly undecided voters will pull the lever based on intradenominational church politics.  So it's a non issue.

His hot dish recipe is more likely to make a difference than this.

Spoiler

Ingredients:
1 package of brats
1 bottle Schell's beer
1 onion
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1 cup of chopped celery
1 can cream of cheddar soup
1 can cream of mushroom soup
1/2 cup milk
1 cups sharp cheddar cheese
1 package tater tots.

Bring a pot of water to a boil, add beer, onions and garlic powder. Submerge the brats into the pot and reduce heat to medium and cook for 10 min. Remove and let cool. Butter the casserole dish. Combine remaining ingredients into a separate bowl, minus the tots. Chop up the brats into bite sized pieces and add to the other ingredients. Pour the mixture into the casserole dish, top with tater tots and bake for 1 hour at 350 degrees. Sprinkle with cheese for the last 10-15 mins of baking.

 

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10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

That’s exactly his plan because they have radicals on the boards of states and in counties who they are counting on that won’t certify. 

I mean, I think 2020 was a shitshow because it was *very fucking close* in several states. 

If Harris wins a bunch of the swing states by 3+ points, I don't think it will be contested that much, compared to Biden-level margins in AZ/NV/GA/MI/PA/WI.  Obviously the goal is a blowout EC win and no swing state is less than 2% margin. 4 states in 2020 were less than 1% margin (AZ, GA, PA, WI)

I think you will see a lot of Dems who runs elections in places like WI, PA, MI, NV, AZ tell those traitors to certify or take them to the state Supreme Court, who will tell them to certify. 

Remember - the state legislatures cannot overrule the will of voters and send Congress their own electors.  It's now against the law.  Congress can only accept electors from the governor, or whoever is deemed in that capacity in state law (i.e., SOS).  Democrats really helped themselves by holding onto pivotal state-level offices in 2022. 

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14 minutes ago, Pancho said:

That’s exactly his plan because they have radicals on the boards of states and in counties who they are counting on that won’t certify. 

Which is a real fear, considering the judges he appointed, not to mention SCOTUS. Any state he doesn't win is going to be one where shenanigans will ensure. I have hope that none of it will matter, but we know what's happened the last few years. This needs to be a landslide. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

No, no Jewish President or Vice President in American history.  

 

Henry Kissinger was probably the GOP’s highest ranking Jew

Actually that would be Kush and Ivanka.

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13 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

For all of the bullshit we see online and from places like Fox News, just remember - a lot of Musk's incels on twitter don't vote, and for all of Fox News bullshit, out of 155 million or so voters in the US, there's less than 4 million people who regularly tune into Fox News in the evening (and even then some of those might be double-counted).

3-4 million Fox News viewers are still a lot of people, but they really are a small portion of the overall population, and social media amplifies a lot of these groups who would not have been this loud in the past.  There are lots of Republicans who have no idea whether Vance fucked a couch or not, or even that it was trending, or that saw Trump at the NABJ conference - there's a shitload of people on both sides who just don't pay attention to politics at all, outside of catching the occasional 30-second soundbite while at somebody else's house or waiting on a car to be serviced or whatever and watching a TV in the the waiting room.

That's not to say they won't show up and vote and pull that lever for (R), but a whole lot of Americans just don't bother tuning in until right before the elections.  Hell, if you can hit up some of those folks with the weird shit, like Vance always wearing eyeliner or the couch stuff or Trump saying some batshit stuff about batteries in boats, you might cause them to tune out of politics.

 

I don't disagree but I think you either meant to respond to another post or misunderstood mine? I was saying that I, personally, am ambivalent to Harris as a candidate. Of course, that's in a vacuum. I'm 100% voting for her and 99% sure I'll vote for her in 2028 if she wins, because of who she'll be running against.

6 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

Asking the important questions here.

2 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

I'm clearly not part of the majority here but this feels like an unforced error.  While I don't really think VP picks matter, she 100% has to win Pennsylvania to win and instead of picking the very popular governor she went with a guy from a state that was never in doubt.  I think Shapiro would've locked down PA and don't think picking him would've impacted Minnesota or Michigan. It can be framed pretty easily that she didn't pick Shapiro due to him being Jewish (even though that isn't true).  The honeymoon bump is over and now its about to be a race.  

One thing to add re: the bolded; look at where the situation in the Middle East is trending. Having a historically, strongly pro-Israel candidate on the ticket actually could be a problem in Michigan.

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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I mean, I think 2020 was a shitshow because it was *very fucking close* in several states. 

If Harris wins a bunch of the swing states by 3+ points, I don't think it will be contested that much, compared to Biden-level margins in AZ/NV/GA/MI/PA/WI.  Obviously the goal is a blowout EC win and no swing state is less than 2% margin. 4 states in 2020 were less than 1% margin (AZ, GA, PA, WI)

I think you will see a lot of Dems who runs elections in places like WI, PA, MI, NV, AZ tell those traitors to certify or take them to the state Supreme Court, who will tell them to certify. 

Remember - the state legislatures cannot overrule the will of voters and send Congress their own electors.  It's now against the law.  Congress can only accept electors from the governor, or whoever is deemed in that capacity in state law (i.e., SOS).  Democrats really helped themselves by holding onto pivotal state-level offices in 2022. 

The real key in blowing them the fuck out is that it will change the calculus of the Republicans on SCOTUS whether they think they can get away with it or not. If it's close like 2020 in several states and a bunch of county-level GOP officials refuse to certify, SCOTUS will likely make up some pretextual bullshit to intervene.  If they lose by 2+ in those states and it's only close in like North Carolina, the Republicans on SCOTUS will be too scared of what might happen to them if they intervene to try. 



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