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Posted
4 hours ago, F250 said:

The flaw in his reasoning is an assumption that religious members of MAGA retain any fidelity to their church. Their faith resides in the MAGA movement and anything that is a contradiction to MAGA is discarded. Catholic, Protestant and weird non-denominational offshoots don't matter, only the overarching cult matters.

The non-Southern Baptists don't necessarily care because they weren't lobbying hard for this and they aren't happy either way.

The Southern Baptists, the types that kicked Beth Moore to the curb, may not openly say it, but they don't care for the Catholics, and I'm not just mentioning the Catholic angle by the way, - I'm throwing in that the Muslims, Mormons, etc., are liable to get stuff put in the classrooms.

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16 hours ago, LW Goatman said:

I've been asking this for the last 8 years, rinse and repeat. But if you and others want to joke about living in Iran and how shitty the USA is, wow. 

The USA is a better place to live than Iran, and no one has stated otherwise.  However, if you can't see how Iran and Texas have more in common culturally than Texas does with European nations, or even most U.S. states,  I don't know what to tell you.  Death penalty infatuation, dominance of politics by religious fanatics, subjugating women, actively working to keep the citizenry poorly educated, etc.   There are more similarities than differences, thanks to a minority faction in both Texas and Iran who are still living in the Middle Ages and have managed to seize control of the populace.  Texas mostly has an edge because it's easier to leave (for now).

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13 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

 

Do ya’ll raise your children or just leave it up to the school?

We talking about the same state that's banning books about race and LGBTQ issues, right?

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm throwing in that the Muslims, Mormons, etc., are liable to get stuff put in the classrooms.

Lol, no they aren't.  It's like you have this fantasy world concocted in your head and no idea what is happening in reality.

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27 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Lol, no they aren't.  It's like you have this fantasy world concocted in your head and no idea what is happening in reality.

John Candy Reaction GIF We'll allow only one religion to proselytize in public schools, and there will be nothing anyone can do about it.  That's the American way of doing things.

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Southern Baptists, the types that kicked Beth Moore to the curb, may not openly say it, but they don't care for the Catholics, and I'm not just mentioning the Catholic angle by the way, - I'm throwing in that the Muslims, Mormons, etc., are liable to get stuff put in the classrooms.

 

5 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Lol, no they aren't.  It's like you have this fantasy world concocted in your head and no idea what is happening in reality.

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12 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Southern Baptists, the types that kicked Beth Moore to the curb, may not openly say it, but they don't care for the Catholics, and I'm not just mentioning the Catholic angle by the way, - I'm throwing in that the Muslims, Mormons, etc., are liable to get stuff put in the classrooms.

Southern Baptists, and evangelicals in general, hate Catholics so much that they were pro-choice up until the 90s or so, to make sure no one thought they were in alignment with the Catholics on any issue whatsoever.  Most of the brainwashed cult members of today seem to be operating in ignorance of that reality.  They are a political cult, not a religion. 

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1 hour ago, Samson's Wig said:

Southern Baptists, and evangelicals in general, hate Catholics so much that they were pro-choice up until the 90s or so, to make sure no one thought they were in alignment with the Catholics on any issue whatsoever.  Most of the brainwashed cult members of today seem to be operating in ignorance of that reality.  They are a political cult, not a religion. 

I was an SBC kid during the rise of the Religious Right. I remember the reprogramming that took place regarding abortion as a newly categorized sin. I also remember the effort to get church members to join the Republican party. That stands out because I remember the really old Southern Baptists throwing a fit while expressing Civil War/Reconstruction grievances. There was also a lot of distrust of the political coalition because of the charismatics being heavily involved. 

I've brought this up with people that are older than me who were there for the experience and they act like it never happened.

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34 minutes ago, F250 said:

I was an SBC kid during the rise of the Religious Right. I remember the reprogramming that took place regarding abortion as a newly categorized sin. I also remember the effort to get church members to join the Republican party. That stands out because I remember the really old Southern Baptists throwing a fit while expressing Civil War/Reconstruction grievances. There was also a lot of distrust of the political coalition because of the charismatics being heavily involved. 

I've brought this up with people that are older than me who were there for the experience and they act like it never happened.

Shared history.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Iceman said:

We are zero serious as a society about actually fixing the education process.  We seem much more intent upon destroying it. 

When your argument is that government schooling doesn’t work, but people don’t believe you and facts don’t support you, the only reasonable recourse is to get elected and make the schools worse until people agree with you. It’s what god wants. 

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8 hours ago, F250 said:

I was an SBC kid during the rise of the Religious Right. I remember the reprogramming that took place regarding abortion as a newly categorized sin. I also remember the effort to get church members to join the Republican party. That stands out because I remember the really old Southern Baptists throwing a fit while expressing Civil War/Reconstruction grievances. There was also a lot of distrust of the political coalition because of the charismatics being heavily involved. 

I've brought this up with people that are older than me who were there for the experience and they act like it never happened.

Americans are really good about forgetting things that have happened within our own lifetimes. It's astounding. 

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Posted
6 hours ago, CoachTex said:

As an educator, if they make me do this shit, I will also be posting the pillars of Islam, Hinduism Yamas and Niyamas, Buddhism's Five Precepts, and any other religious equivalents. 

Right there with you. I also thought about putting it next to the board where I write announcements, like "Test on Wednesday", because I know students never look at that.

But in all seriousness, I cannot in good conscience put this in my classroom. Off the top of my head, in my classes last year I know I had Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, agnostics, and athiests in my classes last year. I am not going to hang up an official sign from the government that says "I am the Lord, your god. You shall have no other gods before me."

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31 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Sure you can. Put it up with some stuff said by Zeus, Ra, and others and label it Mythology. Have fun with malicious compliance.

Doesn't even have to be malicious, really.  A blurb about world religion is worthwhile in history/social studies.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Doesn't even have to be malicious, really.  A blurb about world religion is worthwhile in history/social studies.

And that's the correct context to discuss religion, honestly. It's cultural, not factual

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Posted
8 hours ago, CoachTex said:

As an educator, if they make me do this shit, I will also be posting the pillars of Islam, Hinduism Yamas and Niyamas, Buddhism's Five Precepts, and any other religious equivalents. 

Please include The Flying Spaghetti Monster's "The Eight I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

1. Don't be a sanctimonious jerk: Don't act superior or judgmental about others' beliefs. 
2. Don't use my existence to oppress: Don't use religion to harm or control others. 
3. Don't judge people based on appearance: Treat everyone with respect, regardless of how they look or dress. 
4. Don't engage in harmful behavior: Don't do anything that would offend yourself or a consenting adult. 
5. Don't build temples: The FSM doesn't want extravagant displays of worship. 
6. Don't put people in cages: This is a more direct call to action against oppression. 
7. Don't work too much: Prioritize happiness and well-being over endless work. 
8. Don't censor things: Encouraging open discussion and freedom of thought. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, elfenix said:

Americans are really good about forgetting things that have happened within our own lifetimes. It's astounding. 

Our media rapid fires controversy after breaking news headline after scandal after war to keep pushing things out of our brain.  It's a combo of American amnesia + the inability to keep up with and retain all the "big historical events" that have happened in our lifetime

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10 hours ago, CoachTex said:

As an educator, if they make me do this shit, I will also be posting the pillars of Islam, Hinduism Yamas and Niyamas, Buddhism's Five Precepts, and any other religious equivalents. 

I teach 5th grade science and social studies. Damn right I’ll be posting and teaching every damn religion out there. Especially from the satanic temple 

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Please include The Flying Spaghetti Monster's "The Eight I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

1. Don't be a sanctimonious jerk: Don't act superior or judgmental about others' beliefs. 
2. Don't use my existence to oppress: Don't use religion to harm or control others. 
3. Don't judge people based on appearance: Treat everyone with respect, regardless of how they look or dress. 
4. Don't engage in harmful behavior: Don't do anything that would offend yourself or a consenting adult. 
5. Don't build temples: The FSM doesn't want extravagant displays of worship. 
6. Don't put people in cages: This is a more direct call to action against oppression. 
7. Don't work too much: Prioritize happiness and well-being over endless work. 
8. Don't censor things: Encouraging open discussion and freedom of thought. 

This is awesome! I will post these in my class as well

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1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Please include The Flying Spaghetti Monster's "The Eight I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

1. Don't be a sanctimonious jerk: Don't act superior or judgmental about others' beliefs. 
2. Don't use my existence to oppress: Don't use religion to harm or control others. 
3. Don't judge people based on appearance: Treat everyone with respect, regardless of how they look or dress. 
4. Don't engage in harmful behavior: Don't do anything that would offend yourself or a consenting adult. 
5. Don't build temples: The FSM doesn't want extravagant displays of worship. 
6. Don't put people in cages: This is a more direct call to action against oppression. 
7. Don't work too much: Prioritize happiness and well-being over endless work. 
8. Don't censor things: Encouraging open discussion and freedom of thought. 

And how am I going to make any money off of this?

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Being a Tesla driver isn't a belief structure, bro

I was trying to subtly comment that the entire "FSM" construct is an exercise in perceived intellectual superiority and judgment of others' beliefs. 

Edited by Guadaloopy
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On 6/22/2025 at 5:36 PM, Bevo&Pevo said:

Maybe it is being posted for the teachers and admin staff. 

But then the hot female teachers soliciting teenage boys thread would never continue to exist.

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On 6/23/2025 at 2:54 PM, Iceman said:

This provision is straight up social manipulation.  The only purpose is to make other people comply with the process. It doesn't make fuck if anyone actually believes, much less abides by the 10 Commandments. 
 

It's also exercise #1366433356788898 in chasing mice while getting trampled by elephants. 
 

We are zero serious as a society about actually fixing the education process.  We seem much more intent upon destroying it. 

Not all of us.  And you will find those that are interested in solidifying education on one side of the aisle.  

4 hours ago, crash_davis said:

"There's only one commandment: Don't be an Asshole!" - Eddie Vedder

 

I'm amazed at the number of "religious" people who can't follow that one simple edict.

Why? They are just a sinner and can ask for forgiveness on their deathbed.   

Posted
16 hours ago, CoachTex said:

As an educator, if they make me do this shit, I will also be posting the pillars of Islam, Hinduism Yamas and Niyamas, Buddhism's Five Precepts, and any other religious equivalents. 

Wait.

You mean something like recognizing the free exercise of religion in order to enable some kind of equality in faith and belief? Perhaps even fostering an understanding of religion in general in an attempt to quell hate/fear/stupidity while recognizing that religiosity, or an absence of, is an intensely personal activity to be respected as a fundamental human right?

Say, that's not a bad idea.

The U.S. should think about making that an amendment or something.

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My wife teaches the color guard at our high school.  I asked her the other day, "is the band hall a classroom"?  She said, "yeah, I guess so".  I said "great, the next time you're up there you can pick out a nice clean spot to hang your copy of the Ten Commandments" (she hadn't heard about the bill getting signed yet).  Tone.

But then I started thinking, is the weight room a classroom?  Gym?  Football stadium, baseball field?  Hard to argue that they are not, where does it end?

I'm actually excited about this. Can't wait to see what chicanery today's youth are capable of in protesting this bullshit.  At least at the high school level, if those posters make it a week without being vandalized/outright destroyed, I'll be surprised.  Let the Tik Tok challenges begin!  

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On 6/24/2025 at 11:01 AM, Guadaloopy said:

I was trying to subtly comment that the entire "FSM" construct is an exercise in perceived intellectual superiority and judgment of others' beliefs. 

Except that when you’re dealing with the fundies, it’s not perceived but actual.   But your point still stands.

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On 6/22/2025 at 4:07 PM, atomheartbevo said:

 

Probably be a lot of teachers printing out a small copy and putting it with the bullshit on the walls that kids don’t pay attention to.

I think I’ll work up a Velcro version that you can slap over the “I CAN” statement each day and sell it on TeachersPayTeachers. 

On 6/22/2025 at 8:13 PM, hookem2010 said:

I'm sure the people who have no problem with this would be totally cool with passages from the Quran or the Seven Tenets of Satanism adorning an elementary school classroom.

 

On 6/24/2025 at 12:56 AM, CoachTex said:

As an educator, if they make me do this shit, I will also be posting the pillars of Islam, Hinduism Yamas and Niyamas, Buddhism's Five Precepts, and any other religious equivalents. 

Two conflicting thoughts of mine:

1. If I were king of education, we’d do more to embrace religious (and irreligious) traditions. If you have to fill your walls with pieces of flair, they  might as well come from foundational texts of our culture. Understanding what people believe or don’t believe, and dealing with that openly and respectfully should be possible, but we don’t do it well or even try.

2. My faith is a big part of my life. I can’t imagine trusting some random school teacher to teach that to my child. Theology is a thorny subject and I’d rather deal with that in my home and church. I don’t want some flat earther teaching their nonsense when the overwhelming evidence — both scientific and biblical — is that the earth is shaped like a tesseract. Your average school teacher lacks the theological, historical, and scientific training to grasp such concepts.

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45 minutes ago, Mole said:

I think I’ll work up a Velcro version that you can slap over the “I CAN” statement each day and sell it on TeachersPayTeachers. 

 

Two conflicting thoughts of mine:

1. If I were king of education, we’d do more to embrace religious (and irreligious) traditions. If you have to fill your walls with pieces of flair, they  might as well come from foundational texts of our culture. Understanding what people believe or don’t believe, and dealing with that openly and respectfully should be possible, but we don’t do it well or even try.

2. My faith is a big part of my life. I can’t imagine trusting some random school teacher to teach that to my child. Theology is a thorny subject and I’d rather deal with that in my home and church. I don’t want some flat earther teaching their nonsense when the overwhelming evidence — both scientific and biblical — is that the earth is shaped like a tesseract. Your average school teacher lacks the theological, historical, and scientific training to grasp such concepts.

1.  Yes.

2. It's almost as if those Founding Fathers were onto something with personal - including religious - liberties.  

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Posted
21 hours ago, Nivek said:

Why? They are just a sinner and can ask for forgiveness on their deathbed.   

It’s even easier if they are from a branch that says once you receive God’s grace, it can’t be revoked.  Take a special bath and you are covered for any past and future transgressions. 

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On 6/23/2025 at 3:24 PM, Brisketexan said:

Guys, when Iceman figures out the utter fuckery that is afoot . . . . yeah, FFS.  It's that damned simple.

Brisketexan'd!

Posted
On 6/24/2025 at 7:33 AM, usmc0331horn said:

Marx's Communist Manifesto poster side by side? It's part of my AP Euro curriculum. Life size copy of the Koran also okay?

Life size copy of the Koran?

in a backpack?

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On 6/22/2025 at 3:02 PM, Samson's Wig said:

How did we get to the point where the dumbest motherfuckers among us control the vote?  If I wanted to live in Iran, I would have moved there.

Good news! Your sons will soon be dying in Iran after these fuck nuts and their party invade it!

My youngest daughter graduates next May and I have no sons so i'll be free of worries of bullshit made up commandments or conscription. Y'all dumb mother fuckers enjoy it. 

Posted
23 hours ago, gofuckyourself said:

Wait.

You mean something like recognizing the free exercise of religion in order to enable some kind of equality in faith and belief? Perhaps even fostering an understanding of religion in general in an attempt to quell hate/fear/stupidity while recognizing that religiosity, or an absence of, is an intensely personal activity to be respected as a fundamental human right?

Say, that's not a bad idea.

The U.S. should think about making that an amendment or something.

My CHURCH did that when I was in 7th grade.

Posted
59 minutes ago, huge said:

I dont know anyone that thinks this is a good idea.

There are a couple of West Texas billionaires who think it's a GREAT idea.

Of course, their kids will never see the inside of a public school, but they wanted to start pushing their beliefs on everybody else, a little bit at a time.

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Posted

I'd hang a poster with the Seven Tenets of the Satanic Church right next to the 10 commandments. Honestly, these don't sound so bad: 

 

 

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

 

 

 

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