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On 10/12/2025 at 3:03 PM, LTtxfan said:

Wonder if Marcus Freeman would consider the Penn State job???

Freeman might be their likely target -- Notre Dame is not necessarily a better job since NIL added to CFB.

 

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Apparently Franklin tried to get a contract extension this past summer. With 6 years left on a 10 year contract. Thought he deserved it after making it to the semifinals last year. 

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I was hoping they’d hire Brady as OC when they fired Yurcich since he was a GA at Penn state early in Franklin’s tenure, but he was very shortly thereafter made OC in Buffalo. 

Seems like he’s an NFL guy and a good bet for an NFL head coach job.

I do wonder what if any relationship he and Pegula have. 

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James Franklin as much as he’s failed was literally a play from playing in the National Championship last year.  I’m no James Franklin apologist but that’s pretty crazy he’s fired already.  

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Dude has 14 ranked wins in 3+ seasons so far

And I think his signature win is either #4 Clemson in year 1 or #2 Georgia last year.  #4 Penn State was just bigger because it was the semifinals, but he got a top 5 win in year 1 against a CFP dominant Clemson squad and took out a 2-time winner in Georgia in the playoffs last year. 

Not sure you can call beating James Franklin a "signature win" because he's such a choker against top 10 teams 

 

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

racist comedy central GIF

Also stupid

James Franklin against top 25 teams - 15-28 at PSU
Marcus Freeman - 14-7

James Franklin fucking wishes. 

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Not like I know either guy, but James Franklin comes across as a genuine piece of shit that you would hate to have to spend any time with, whereas Marcus Freeman seems like such a good guy that he can make otherwise sensible people actually consider rooting for Notre Dame just a tiny bit.

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3 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

I am not understanding the logic -- wouldn't you want to hire the guy that beat your last coach? 

I don't understand the logic in leaving ND for PSU. 

ND has:

National alumni base of rich Catholics
Their own special TV deal
Easiest path to the playoffs - 10-2/9-3 gonna get you in every year, without having to face Oregon/Ohio State/Indiana in your own conference and no CCG to worry about
Top 5 program in terms of financial value

They'll never get a bye, but they don't play a CCG, so it's a wash

I'd stay at ND, easily - ignoring my hatred for Pedo State, if I was Freeman, I wouldn't leave for any program but Ohio State.  Because they just keep chugging along being elite. 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I don't understand the logic in leaving ND for PSU. 

ND has:

National alumni base of rich Catholics
Their own special TV deal
Easiest path to the playoffs - 10-2/9-3 gonna get you in every year, without having to face Oregon/Ohio State/Indiana in your own conference and no CCG to worry about
Top 5 program in terms of financial value

They'll never get a bye, but they don't play a CCG, so it's a wash

I'd stay at ND, easily - ignoring my hatred for Pedo State, if I was Freeman, I wouldn't leave for any program but Ohio State.  Because they just keep chugging along being elite. 

The main plus Penn St has is I believe they have a lower academic standard for athletes than Notre Dame does.

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7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The main plus Penn St has is I believe they have a lower academic standard for athletes than Notre Dame does.

It certainly helps with HS recruiting but probably doesn't matter with the transfer portal. 

Anyway here's an article that talks about how Penn State crumbled.

tl;dr version - they were tight as a drum coming into the season due to expectations and just imploded after the Oregon loss. 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46607047/college-football-james-franklin-departure-penn-state

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13 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The main plus Penn St has is I believe they have a lower academic standard for athletes than Notre Dame does.

And the cult members don't mind the, ahem, off-the-field issues.

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

I don't understand the logic in leaving ND for PSU. 

ND has:

National alumni base of rich Catholics
Their own special TV deal
Easiest path to the playoffs - 10-2/9-3 gonna get you in every year, without having to face Oregon/Ohio State/Indiana in your own conference and no CCG to worry about
Top 5 program in terms of financial value

They'll never get a bye, but they don't play a CCG, so it's a wash

I'd stay at ND, easily - ignoring my hatred for Pedo State, if I was Freeman, I wouldn't leave for any program but Ohio State.  Because they just keep chugging along being elite. 

I don't understand how PSU would go after one of the elite coaches. They pay Franklin's buyout, then they would go buyout another elite coach for betwen $30-50 million, then they would hire that coach at a premium contract of 10+ mil per year for x years plus have to pony up big time for staff, and THEN he will want NIL assurances. You are talking about a $150 Million proposition. That is bananas. 

The most likely scenario is either Rhule or Campbell. If Rhule leaves voluntarily, the buyout is $5 million. If Campbell takes another P4 coaching job, his buyout is $2 million

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3 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I don't understand how PSU would go after one of the elite coaches. They pay Franklin's buyout, then they would go buyout another elite coach for betwen $30-50 million, then they would hire that coach at a premium contract of 10+ mil per year for x years plus have to pony up big time for staff, and THEN he will want NIL assurances. You are talking about a $150 Million proposition. That is bananas. 

The most likely scenario is either Rhule or Campbell. If Rhule leaves voluntarily, the buyout is $5 million. If Campbell takes another P4 coaching job, his buyout is $2 million

They’re paying 800m for a stadium upgrade.  They got money

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37 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The main plus Penn St has is I believe they have a lower academic standard for athletes than Notre Dame does.

Academic standards don't mean shit if a dude can ball out.

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16 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

I don't understand how PSU would go after one of the elite coaches. They pay Franklin's buyout, then they would go buyout another elite coach for betwen $30-50 million, then they would hire that coach at a premium contract of 10+ mil per year for x years plus have to pony up big time for staff, and THEN he will want NIL assurances. You are talking about a $150 Million proposition. That is bananas. 

The most likely scenario is either Rhule or Campbell. If Rhule leaves voluntarily, the buyout is $5 million. If Campbell takes another P4 coaching job, his buyout is $2 million

Pretty sure that’s the norm for high profile coaching changes going forward. If a school can fund $30M - $40M annual roster payroll, coaches will be getting huge contracts with huge buyouts. Some will fail and get fired/paid buyout money. 

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Not like I know either guy, but James Franklin comes across as a genuine piece of shit that you would hate to have to spend any time with, whereas Marcus Freeman seems like such a good guy that he can make otherwise sensible people actually consider rooting for Notre Dame just a tiny bit.

I hear ya. But cough cough, verp!

Now after swallowing that vomit that just came up and to just put a finer point on this,
FUCK OU, ND, Miami, PSU, NU, 8&4, always and forever!
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9 hours ago, Js1 said:

Dude has 14 ranked wins in 3+ seasons so far

And I think his signature win is either #4 Clemson in year 1 or #2 Georgia last year.  #4 Penn State was just bigger because it was the semifinals, but he got a top 5 win in year 1 against a CFP dominant Clemson squad and took out a 2-time winner in Georgia in the playoffs last year. 

Not sure you can call beating James Franklin a "signature win" because he's such a choker against top 10 teams 

 

Announcing you are going after a coach is the best way to not get him. Freeman then has all the leverage and ND is ready to address it. 

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