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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


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Just now, Dahobbs said:

No, it was an amazing call. The batches have been trending away from Trump. Biden is going to win comfortably. 

He's trending just under what he needs @56% unless in the last 15 I've missed something. He needs about 59% of vote share to win. It's gonna be close unless the vote share changes significantly

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He's trending just under what he needs @56% unless in the last 15 I've missed something. He needs about 59% of vote share to win. It's gonna be close unless the vote share changes significantly

I thought the last batch was closer to 52% to Trump.
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By now you’ve likely heard that after pulling ahead in Georgia and, most crucially, Pennsylvania, Joe Biden will very likely be the next president of the United States. As you’ve probably also heard, Donald Trump is taking it as well as everyone had expected, ranting and raving about all kinds of made-up fraud, demanding counts be stopped in one state and continued in others, and filing numerous lawsuits that stand little chance of holding up in court because they have no merit (and, in some cases, have led judges to believe the lawyers attached to them have recently suffered traumatic brain injuries). At this point, a quasi reasonable person might say to himself, Okay, I’m going to cut my losses, salvage my last atom of dignity, and admit defeat. But obviously Donald Trump is not reasonable and he has no dignity. So instead he’s decided he’ll keep fighting this thing well beyond the point that it’s hugely embarrassing to do so, and even after that fails, refuse to acknowledge that he lost and that Joe Biden is going to be president.

Yes, like George Costanza deciding to just go back to the office on Monday as if he didn’t quit the Friday before, Trump apparently thinks he can just go on being president even if the American people have fired him. According to CNN, Trump reportedly has not prepared a concession speech and “in conversations with allies in recent days has said he has no intention of conceding the election.” The decision to go full delusional has obviously been strengthened by staffers, such as Mark Meadows, who “have not attempted to come to terms with the president about the reality of what is happening” and have instead fed into his claims of fraud; Vice President Mike Pence, who’s been soliciting money for a legal defense fund; and his adult children, who’ve been spouting absurd conspiracy theories on Twitter as they watch the ultimate opportunity for nepotism slip away. While Trump has apparently admitted to some people that he knows the electoral math has no chance of working out in his favor, he has “maintained that a prolonged court battle and corrosive rhetoric about election fraud would sow enough doubt to allow him to refuse to accept the results.”

And while the majority of the president’s inner circle is more than happy to go along with this sad alternative reality, a few members have reportedly grown worried that, eventually, someone will have to sit Trump down and explain that little Donny’s not going to be president anymore—and at this point, it seems unlikely anyone will be able to get through to him short of slapping him across the face and screaming, “YOU LOST! IT’S OVER!” Yes, this is an actual thing allies of the president of the United States are actually grappling with:

 

It is a possibility the president did not consider in a serious way during the election, despite polls showing him with only a narrow path to victory, believing that looking past Election Day was bad luck. The delicate matter of a loss—and a potential postpresidential life—was not discussed widely among his team and was not raised often with the president, who believed adamantly he would win.

Now people around Trump are working to identify who might be able to communicate to him the stark reality. There has been talk of potentially Jared Kushner or Ivanka Trump, though their willingness to lead a difficult intervention wasn’t clear.

Obviously it’s not going to be Kushner or Ivanka, and the only people who think it might be are the ones still laboring under the impression that Ivanka is a “moderating influence” on the president. (Also the first daughter joined her father’s disinformation campaign this morning, tweeting: “Every legally cast vote should be counted. Every illegally cast vote should not. This should not be controversial.” So there’s that.) Hilariously, one idea being floated to convince Trump to accept defeat is “framing potential conversations...around the idea of preserving his brand for life after being president—and explaining that dragging out an election he clearly lost would ruin his businesses and forestall whatever political future he’s hoping for.” This obviously assumes that Trump’s brand up until this point was something other than insane, delusional, and spiteful, or that his followers would suddenly be all, Ooo, this is a side of the guy we never expected. It’s honestly a big turnoff. What happened to the Trump we know?

 

On Friday, Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said that the former vice president’s staff wasn’t worried about Trump refusing to leave the White House—not because they don’t believe he’s certifiably insane and might definitely barricade himself in the Oval Office, but because security will simply escort him from the premises. “The U.S. government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” he said. 

Spoilered VF 

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7 minutes ago, TeeDubya said:

Highest grossing PPV event in history?

In 1987(?) I paid $30 to see Tyson fight Spinks on closed circuit at the Erwin Center. Had to piss right before the start, missed the opening bell, and before I got to my seat the shit was over. Think it was like 80 seconds or something like that.

No exaggeration, I would pay 100X that amount to see the event you describe if I could be guaranteed that orange fuckface would attempt to physically resist....

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

He's trending just under what he needs @56% unless in the last 15 I've missed something. He needs about 59% of vote share to win. It's gonna be close unless the vote share changes significantly

Biden's lead is growing even in red counties so that means Biden is getting >50%.  Maths

 

EDIT: I'm talking PA I think y'all are taling NV

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4 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

In 1987(?) I paid $30 to see Tyson fight Spinks on closed circuit at the Erwin Center. Had to piss right before the start, missed the opening bell, and before I got to my seat the shit was over. Think it was like 80 seconds or something like that.

No exaggeration, I would pay 100X that amount to see the event you describe if I could be guaranteed that orange fuckface would attempt to physically resist....

It would pay off the national debt.

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40 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

2800-3000 votes coming in from Allegheny in next 45 minutes.  Most are military and some damaged.  They're going to start scanning the damaged votes.  My fucking lord, they've had all day, what have they been doing?

Something about not being allowed to until after 5pm today.

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The Nevada numbers continually show Trump not getting more than 40% in any batch. There’s only 130K ballots left. All from Clark County, a democrat county. Biden will just continue to increase his lead. Media not calling this race yet is purely political 

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The Nevada numbers continually show Trump not getting more than 40% in any batch. There’s only 130K ballots left. All from Clark County, a democrat county. Biden will just continue to increase his lead. Media not calling this race yet is purely political 

Isn’t this election political
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Just drove through Burnet a coupla hours ago. Guy and a gal with truck and trailer draped in Trump flags in the lot of the thrift store (I think) yelling and holding signs about democrats cheating etc.

Seriously, they got all dressed up, made signs, and drove out there to shout unsupported nonsense. And they looked exactly how you’d expect.

Also saw a one-armed dude driving a golf cart at the gas station in Brady. That was cool. Shoulda waved at him.

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20 minutes ago, immamac said:

He's trending just under what he needs @56% unless in the last 15 I've missed something. He needs about 59% of vote share to win. It's gonna be close unless the vote share changes significantly

Last batch was 2/3 Trump putting him at outperforming the margin needed to win.  https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

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