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I didn't clarify upthread, but Powell's Texas bar grievance hearing is November 4.  I believe that means that it has advanced beyond preliminary stages into the substance of it.
Also, there's this. https://www.newsweek.com/sidney-powell-drags-justice-samuel-alito-supreme-court-january-6-mess-1632896
I won't comment additionally, but there is apparently no record of this lawsuit.  She is certifiable.
She is nuts, but I hope a bit of that is true, because wouldn't that finish some folks in DC and prove the existence of a conspiracy?
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I didn't clarify upthread, but Powell's Texas bar grievance hearing is November 4.  I believe that means that it has advanced beyond preliminary stages into the substance of it.
Also, there's this. https://www.newsweek.com/sidney-powell-drags-justice-samuel-alito-supreme-court-january-6-mess-1632896
I won't comment additionally, but there is apparently no record of this lawsuit.  She is certifiable.

So, those allegations kinda sound like there’s a deep state that tried to take over. Accusation=confession yet again?
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7 hours ago, bluto said:


So, those allegations kinda sound like there’s a deep state that tried to take over. Accusation=confession yet again?

Certainly seems to demonstrate some malice aforethought with the whole January 6 thing.  But you know if that lawsuit had been filed, it would have been publicized even if it was immediately dismissed.  So I think it's a fanfic by Sidney Powell.

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Certainly seems to demonstrate some malice aforethought with the whole January 6 thing.  But you know if that lawsuit had been filed, it would have been publicized even if it was immediately dismissed.  So I think it's a fanfic by Sidney Powell.

Is this the lawsuit that was filed? https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/01/louie-gohmert-lawsuit-pence-453387

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1 hour ago, Bookman said:

Could well be, sounds like it based on the legal theory and the plaintiff, Gohmert.

However, it is completely inconsistent with the story Powell told, as by that article, the Fifth Circuit had poured them out on 1/2 before the insurrection.  Although I guess it was ripe for Supreme Court emergency relief that might have come through Alito.

So, more evidence of Sidney Powell's detachment from reality, but apparently not of a scheme behind the insurrection.  If that is the lawsuit.

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On 9/26/2021 at 5:58 AM, AnTiM said:

I really would like to know how in the hell trump can keep claiming the election was fixed when every indication says it was not, and the fkn press keeps airing his bullshit.  Is there some point at which these media clowns become liable to prosecution for spreading a blatant lie on the national networks?

So I am not a media conspiracy guy, but I do think media companies stick with content that generates engagement (and thus also revenue).  Trump generates a shit ton of engagement from both Trumpkin Republicans that love him or everyone else that loathes him.  Whether it’s about how great he is on Fox, OAN and Newsmax, or how awful he is on CNN, MSNBC or Bloomberg, the man compels America to tune in, click, read and otherwise consume media.

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7 minutes ago, Goredho said:

So I am not a media conspiracy guy, but I do think media companies stick with content that generates engagement (and thus also revenue).  Trump generates a shit ton of engagement from both Trumpkin Republicans that love him or everyone else that loathes him.  Whether it’s about how great he is on Fox, OAN and Newsmax, or how awful he is on CNN, MSNBC or Bloomberg, the man compels America to tune in, click, read and otherwise consume media.

Yep.  Trump is a ratings machine.

Our new media is not in the business of providing us news, they are in the business of making money. 

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yep.  Trump is a ratings machine.

Our new media is not in the business of providing us news, they are in the business of making money. 

Couldn't we just go with the model from Russia, or Latin America, and have them rack up the ratings by having the news and weather delivered by smoking hot babes with incredible bodies, occasionally disrobing?

It would do SO much good for our country, seriously.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Couldn't we just go with the model from Russia, or Latin America, and have them rack up the ratings by having the news and weather delivered by smoking hot babes with incredible bodies, occasionally disrobing?

It would do SO much good for our country, seriously.

Where can I donate to your campaign?  This is the a platform I can get behind.

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there's something to be said for merits of shamelessness and unabashed pandering...and damned if those crazy bastards haven't mastered it.

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yes, tell my ass in monterrey about that cool, cool weather in san francisco and billings.  sloooowly...

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18 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:
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"We were filing a 12th Amendment constitutional challenge to the process that the Congress was about to use under the Electoral Act provisions that simply don't jive with the 12th Amendment to the United States Constitution," she said.

"Jibe," you stupid cunt.  JIBE!

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Couldn't we just go with the model from Russia, or Latin America, and have them rack up the ratings by having the news and weather delivered by smoking hot babes with incredible bodies, occasionally disrobing?

It would do SO much good for our country, seriously.

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5 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I was assured pee pees were going to get whacked.  I am noticing a distinct lack of pee pees getting whacked. 

That ain’t how it works these days.  You do a bad thing today, tie things up in court for as long as possible, then you get your pee pee whacked a few years later.

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"Jibe," you stupid cunt.  JIBE!

I did have to google it

“Jive means either a type of music or loose, meaningless chatter. Jibe means to be in accord; agree. To confuse matters, jibe also means to shift your sail from one side of the vessel to the other (sometimes spelled gybe). ... For common usage, though, remember "jive" as a type of music and "jibe" as agreeing with.”

Also I learned that a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
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1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:


I did have to google it

“Jive means either a type of music or loose, meaningless chatter. Jibe means to be in accord; agree. To confuse matters, jibe also means to shift your sail from one side of the vessel to the other (sometimes spelled gybe). ... For common usage, though, remember "jive" as a type of music and "jibe" as agreeing with.”

Also I learned that a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

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On 9/28/2021 at 11:24 AM, Brisketexan said:

Couldn't we just go with the model from Russia, or Latin America, and have them rack up the ratings by having the news and weather delivered by smoking hot babes with incredible bodies, occasionally disrobing?

It would do SO much good for our country, seriously.

Not sure I really want to see that Harris chick on Fox News whip it out.  

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Gee, what a shame.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kraken-queen-sidney-powell-is-now-on-trumps-no-go-list?ref=home

 

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Being Sidney Powell is harder than it used to be.

Once, she was a key player in Donald Trump’s inner circle. These days, she might have trouble just getting in the front door.

The “Kraken” queen long ago removed herself from acceptability among the more respectable GOP circles with a constant stream of bizarre election conspiracy theories. But knowledgeable sources tell The Daily Beast that the places she’s unwelcome now include Trump properties, where advisers look to keep the former president away from her.

 

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Her unrelenting antics have put her on an informal list of people to intercept should they ever appear, or if they even just try to call the 45th U.S. president.

Powell is facing a number of legal headaches. She and her nonprofit, Defending the Republic, are both named as defendants in a billion-dollar defamation suit by Dominion Voting Systems. She’s been sanctioned by a Michigan judge for filing a frivolous election suit in the state, faces calls for her disbarment in Texas, and her nonprofit is still waiting to find out its punishment for running afoul of Florida’s rules for charity fundraising. Despite the mounting challenges, Powell was still posting new election conspiracy theories to her nonprofit’s website as recently as Wednesday.

 

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MAGAworld and the conservative movement have shown themselves to be disturbingly fertile ground for election-related conspiracy theories and lies, particularly those used to crack down on voting rights. And yet Powell’s behavior and some of her debunked claims have—nearly a full year after Election Night 2020—continued to alienate her from other leading Trump loyalists, MAGA celebs, and the broader movement.

And yet, Powell’s conduct has somehow proven just a little tooembarrassing for many of them—including, it appears, Donald Trump himself.

 

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Two lawyers who currently work for Trump or in the former president’s inner orbit say they want absolutely nothing to do with her and have cautioned others in MAGAland to do the same. One said they’d recently deleted her phone number.

Two other people familiar with the matter said that ever since he left office in January, certain advisers and longtime associates to Trump have kept an informal shortlist of people who they should look out for, including at Trump’s private clubs or offices in Florida, New Jersey, and New York. The point of this roster is to intercept and possibly rebuff attempted outreach, visits, or phone calls from a handful of conservative figures who could bring the ex-president more undesired headaches.

“Sidney is very much on the no-go list,” one of the knowledgeable sources said. “Her problems right now do not need to be the [former] president’s problems.”

Powell’s legal exposure right now is, of course, massive. And ever since she tried to work with Trump to orchestrate a coup last year against Joe Biden, feelings of frustration and bitterness have lingered between Trump and Powell. According to a source with direct knowledge of the matter, since December Powell has privately talked about how disappointed she was in Trump because he didn’t end up appointing her to a “special” role in his White House where she would have probed “election fraud” conspiracy theories during the final days of his term.

“She sounded pretty broken up about it,” this person noted. “I felt sorry for her.”

Powell, for her part, said she hasn’t tried to contact Trump for months. 

“I’m not surprised by any of [those comments], but I have not sought to contact the President in any way since long before he left office,” Powell said in an email response to The Daily Beast. “My quest is simply for the Truth. The American people are fed up with lies from government and media.”

Even among the diehard election conspiracy theorists Powell’s work has occasionally attracted some skepticism. In an interview conducted in March, Michigan attorney Matt DePerno, whose election suit against Antrim County, Michigan, helped inspire the Arizona audit, was quick to distinguish his work from the litigation carried out by the likes of Powell. “We don't want anything to do with them and have nothing to do with them. From our perspective, the work that certain other camps did was a failure and our case is a success. We’re not interested in tying ourselves to them,” he said.

In August, a federal judge sanctioned Powell for filing a frivolous “Kraken” suit to overturn the election in Michigan. In her ruling, Judge Linda Parker called the suit “a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process” and ordered Powell and other attorneys who brought the suit to take “mandatory continuing legal education in the subjects of pleading standards and election law” and to reimburse the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit for their legal fees.

Shortly before that sanctions hearing, Powell’s nonprofit Defending the Republic announced that one of its attorneys would be stepping down from representing the group against Dominion Voting Systems’ billion-dollar defamation suit. Powell first created the group in the wake of the 2020 election to help fund her post-election crusade against Dominion, which prompted the company to list the organization as a defendant alongside her.

Jesse Binnall, a longtime colleague of Powell who once worked alongside her representing Mike Flynn, stepped down as counsel for Powell’s nonprofit in the Dominion’s lawsuit on Thursday. Binnall declined to comment when reached by The Daily Beast on Friday.

Nor is that the only headache looming for Powell’s nonprofit. In July, the group ran afoul of Florida’s rules for charitable organizations when it allegedly began fundraising as a charity in the state before registering with the department of agriculture, which has jurisdiction over nonprofits. Nikki Fried, a Democrat who serves as Florida’s agriculture commissioner, filed a complaint against the group and the department told the AP that it was negotiating with representatives for the group over what kind of punishment would be appropriate.

Of course, not everyone has excommunicated Powell. She still enjoys the support of the most extreme of election conspiracy theorists, like fellow pro-Trump “Kraken” attorney Lin Wood. On Telegram, the encrypted social media chat app where the two have found refuge after numerous other apps booted them, Wood and Powell frequently share each others’ messages.

Powell can also count on the continued support and camaraderie of the MAGA universe’s leading pillow hypeman: Mike Lindell, a personal friend of Trump’s and a major financial backer of efforts to subvert or undo Biden’s decisive 2020 victory.

The MyPillow CEO, much like Powell, is also facing the mammoth lawsuits coming from Dominion against some of Trumpworld’s biggest luminaries.

Lindell said on Thursday that though he and Powell “have not talked in the last couple weeks,” he still would collaborate with her and considers her a “great patriot, person, and lawyer!”

 

 

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10 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Gee, what a shame.

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kraken-queen-sidney-powell-is-now-on-trumps-no-go-list?ref=home

 

 

 

 

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Two lawyers who currently work for Trump or in the former president’s inner orbit say they want absolutely nothing to do with her and have cautioned others in MAGAland to do the same. One said they’d recently deleted her phone number.

Two other people familiar with the matter said that ever since he left office in January, certain advisers and longtime associates to Trump have kept an informal shortlist of people who they should look out for, including at Trump’s private clubs or offices in Florida, New Jersey, and New York. The point of this roster is to intercept and possibly rebuff attempted outreach, visits, or phone calls from a handful of conservative figures who could bring the ex-president more undesired headaches.

“Sidney is very much on the no-go list,” one of the knowledgeable sources said. “Her problems right now do not need to be the [former] president’s problems.”

Powell’s legal exposure right now is, of course, massive. And ever since she tried to work with Trump to orchestrate a coup last year against Joe Biden, feelings of frustration and bitterness have lingered between Trump and Powell. According to a source with direct knowledge of the matter, since December Powell has privately talked about how disappointed she was in Trump because he didn’t end up appointing her to a “special” role in his White House where she would have probed “election fraud” conspiracy theories during the final days of his term.

“She sounded pretty broken up about it,” this person noted. “I felt sorry for her.”

Powell, for her part, said she hasn’t tried to contact Trump for months. 

“I’m not surprised by any of [those comments], but I have not sought to contact the President in any way since long before he left office,” Powell said in an email response to The Daily Beast. “My quest is simply for the Truth. The American people are fed up with lies from government and media.”

Even among the diehard election conspiracy theorists Powell’s work has occasionally attracted some skepticism. In an interview conducted in March, Michigan attorney Matt DePerno, whose election suit against Antrim County, Michigan, helped inspire the Arizona audit, was quick to distinguish his work from the litigation carried out by the likes of Powell. “We don't want anything to do with them and have nothing to do with them. From our perspective, the work that certain other camps did was a failure and our case is a success. We’re not interested in tying ourselves to them,” he said.

In August, a federal judge sanctioned Powell for filing a frivolous “Kraken” suit to overturn the election in Michigan. In her ruling, Judge Linda Parker called the suit “a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process” and ordered Powell and other attorneys who brought the suit to take “mandatory continuing legal education in the subjects of pleading standards and election law” and to reimburse the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit for their legal fees.

Shortly before that sanctions hearing, Powell’s nonprofit Defending the Republic announced that one of its attorneys would be stepping down from representing the group against Dominion Voting Systems’ billion-dollar defamation suit. Powell first created the group in the wake of the 2020 election to help fund her post-election crusade against Dominion, which prompted the company to list the organization as a defendant alongside her.

Jesse Binnall, a longtime colleague of Powell who once worked alongside her representing Mike Flynn, stepped down as counsel for Powell’s nonprofit in the Dominion’s lawsuit on Thursday. Binnall declined to comment when reached by The Daily Beast on Friday.

Nor is that the only headache looming for Powell’s nonprofit. In July, the group ran afoul of Florida’s rules for charitable organizations when it allegedly began fundraising as a charity in the state before registering with the department of agriculture, which has jurisdiction over nonprofits. Nikki Fried, a Democrat who serves as Florida’s agriculture commissioner, filed a complaint against the group and the department told the AP that it was negotiating with representatives for the group over what kind of punishment would be appropriate.

Of course, not everyone has excommunicated Powell. She still enjoys the support of the most extreme of election conspiracy theorists, like fellow pro-Trump “Kraken” attorney Lin Wood. On Telegram, the encrypted social media chat app where the two have found refuge after numerous other apps booted them, Wood and Powell frequently share each others’ messages.

Powell can also count on the continued support and camaraderie of the MAGA universe’s leading pillow hypeman: Mike Lindell, a personal friend of Trump’s and a major financial backer of efforts to subvert or undo Biden’s decisive 2020 victory.

The MyPillow CEO, much like Powell, is also facing the mammoth lawsuits coming from Dominion against some of Trumpworld’s biggest luminaries.

Lindell said on Thursday that though he and Powell “have not talked in the last couple weeks,” he still would collaborate with her and considers her a “great patriot, person, and lawyer!”

 

 

What's interesting about that is that Trump's keepers are keeping her away, not Trump himself.

They know she'll just rile up that stupid old fucktard with nonsense and he's going to get himself in defamation or other trouble.

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8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What's interesting about that is that Trump's keepers are keeping her away, not Trump himself.

They know she'll just rile up that stupid old fucktard with nonsense and he's going to get himself in defamation or other trouble.

 

I'll contend if she looked like Noem, Trump would insist that she could come around anytime she wanted.

 

 

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On 9/28/2021 at 1:26 PM, conVINCEd said:

That ain’t how it works these days.  You do a bad thing today, tie things up in court for as long as possible, then you get your pee pee whacked a few years later.

Not just "these days."  These are legal disputes.  You don't just get sent to the principal.

The Michigan thing, although we don't know the precise sanction, is step 1.

The Dominion stuff is going to take a couple of years.

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Judge Amero - That's not an MP, that's a YP, your problem. Come up with the evidence, or forget it."

Plaintiff Co-Counsel - Okay, now you're talking above my head. I don't know all of this legal jargon, YP, MP. All I know is that I can't get an audit, we cannot get an audit unless we take those ballots to the auditors. And granted, the ballots themselves are a uh um oh, the county owns them, all right, but the fraud that is on those ballots. That fucking heart and soul that we put onto those ballots, that is ours and they don't own that. Now I need to take that fraud and get it over to the auditors. And they're waiting for us, we were supposed to be there a half hour ago. We look like assholes, man.

Garland Favorito - Let me explain to him in simple arithmetic. One, two three. Because you don't fuckin' get it, Brian. You give us the ballots. We get the audit. We come back and give you your fuckin' evidence. Have you seen the ballots? Have you even seen them? We're guaranteed an audit. Our stuff is that good

Judge Amero - Now I get it. Now I understand. You want it to happen -- but it's not going to happen. Because it's a Catch-22.

Garland Favorito - What the fuck does that mean? What is a Catch-22, Brian?

Judge Amero - Catch-22, gentleman. Think about it.

Garland Favorito - You know what I'm thinking about, man? I'm thinking about kicking some fuckin' ass!
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10 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Now do Texas

Fucking amateurs:

"State Superior Court Judge Brian Amero ruled that the plaintiffs did not have grounds for the audit since they failed to provide any evidence to back up the need for one."


my pillow guy isn’t credible evidence ?

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I know y'all may find this hard to believe, but My Pillow Guy may have hit a roadblock or two in his attempt to file suit directly with the Supreme Court tomorrow.  Appears he can't find an AG to be the plaintiff (in the comments...)

 

 

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13 hours ago, Matuka said:

I know y'all may find this hard to believe, but My Pillow Guy may have hit a roadblock or two in his attempt to file suit directly with the Supreme Court tomorrow.  Appears he can't find an AG to be the plaintiff (in the comments...)

 

 


big govt holding him down !!!!

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Washington (CNN)Two lawyers who went to court to claim voter fraud after the 2020 election must pay nearly $180,000 to the defendants they sued, a federal magistrate judge ordered Monday, saying their lawsuit aimed to "manipulate gullible members of the public and foment public unrest."

The order from Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter of the US District Court in Colorado adds to the federal judiciary's condemnations of attempts by attorneys supporting then-President Donald Trump to use the courts to vet right-wing conspiracies in the days after the presidential election.
Attorneys Gary D. Fielder and Ernest John Walker will have to pay attorneys fees of $50,000 to Facebook (now Meta), about $63,000 to Dominion Voting Systems, about $63,000 to the non-profit Center for Tech and Civic Life, more than $6,000 to the state of Pennsylvania and nearly $5,000 to the state of Michigan.
"They need to take responsibility for their misconduct," Neureiter wrote in his order, adding that the lawsuit defamed the defendants.
 
He continued: "I believe that rather than a legitimate use of the legal system to seek redress for redressable grievances, this lawsuit has been used to manipulate gullible members of the public and foment public unrest. To that extent, this lawsuit has been an abuse of the legal system and an interference with the machinery of government. For all these reasons, I feel that a significant sanctions award is merited."
The lawsuit from late December 2020 was an attempt to create a class action challenge to the election on behalf of American voters, including eight named plaintiffs. Neureiter previously wrote a scathing 68-page opinion condemning the post-election lawsuit.
 
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