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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean I respect them. But that is not smart busienss. 

Oh, I agree.  Even dumbass Lance Armstrong knew not to take a side when LiveStrong was a thing.

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It was an easy sell to the wife becuase she thought the food was mediocre. Now we drive a bit further and go to D'Alba. The space isn't as good, but oh well...

 

I quite like D'Alba. They've been improving the space a lot recently and the food is better. 

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A lot of HOA's have 90 day sign rules.  90 days before the election is this week.  I would imagine more and more signs for both candidates soon.

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40 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What would a Collin, Montgomery and maybe even Denton county flip mean in terms of the state?

Someone to beat 45s ass in golf, for starters. Post him at Turnberry.

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22 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I'm no finance bro, but it sure seems like the market panic last night/this morning was basically just wishcasting from right wingers?  

Friday's jobs report and people want the Fed to cut interest rates now that inflation is under control. 

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48 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What would a Collin, Montgomery, and maybe even Denton county flip mean in terms of the state?

An 80/20 Allred win. 

Lubbock will go blue before Montgomery County does.

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5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Friday's jobs report and people want the Fed to cut interest rates now that inflation is under control. 

I swear, jobs reports exceeded all expectations damn near every time for the last 2 years and one bad one and we get this horseshit. 

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

I swear, jobs reports exceeded all expectations damn near every time for the last 2 years and one bad one and we get this horseshit. 

Based on what little I read the scope of the selloff is an overreaction and it's more related to interest rates than the jobs report. 

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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I swear, jobs reports exceeded all expectations damn near every time for the last 2 years and one bad one and we get this horseshit. 

The major indices are still all up YTD (and not just by some razor thin margin)  If the slide really continues ok, but right now this looks more like maybe a cooling off rather than some full blown rundown.  

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1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Based on what little I read the scope of the selloff is an overreaction and it's more related to interest rates than the jobs report. 

I think it's largely an overreaction to the AI bubble deflating if not bursting, while some of the smarter money is deciding to wait for the anticipated interest rate cut.

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24 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Someone to beat 45s ass in golf, for starters. Post him at Turnberry.

Remember the rules--no fact checking, real time or otherwise.  It won't be televised or recorded, because reasons.  It's all word of mouth confirmation.  In fact, it's about the only time a game of any merit isn't recorded this day and age.  Playing with an ex president--certainly don't record anything.      

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Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

 

I thought my border comment was obvious enough that the sarcasm would be an evident. 

Except when you explain to MAGAs about how much better we have fared than our peer countries, they won’t listen. Everyone knows Biden decided to raise inflation all over the world 

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Except when you explain to MAGAs about how much better we have fared than our peer countries, they won’t listen. Everyone knows Biden decided to raise inflation all over the world 

You have an actual MAGA poster on this very thread blaming Biden and the Dems for....things like the Nikkei index taking a beating.  For you MAGAs out there, the Nikkei index is the stock index for Japan.  Also for you MAGAs, Japan is another country.  Also for you MAGAs, neither Biden nor any other dem is in office in Japan.

As a side note, neither Biden nor any other dem is in office in ANY of the numerous other countries where their stock markets are also taking a similar if not worse beating the last few days.

Although, if your point is that you believe that Biden and the dems are so damned powerful that they control the stock markets in every country in the world....don't we WANT giant badasses like that, who can control the whole world, in office?  I mean, that's a pretty solid sales pitch.

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What would a Collin, Montgomery, and maybe even Denton county flip mean in terms of the state?

If Monty county flipped it would be an historic shellacking of Republicans deeper and more thorough than what the Tories just experienced in the UK.

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52 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I'm no finance bro, but it sure seems like the market panic last night/this morning was basically just wishcasting from right wingers?  

No, there are some at-least-semi-legit concerns about a looming recession in the US.

Sure, it could very well help the Republicans right now, but the Nikkei didn't drop 13% in a day because of American politics.

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Just now, elfenix said:

If Monty county flipped it would be an historic shellacking of Republicans deeper and more thorough than what the Tories just experienced in the UK.

Reagan 84-esque 

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44 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Bubba’s is overrated. Fight me.

Gagree. The rolls are still top-notch, though. Any of the fried shit there is just way too greasy.

 

21 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Jesus Christ this dude is a nut job.

I watched the John Oliver piece on him last night. At one time, he was a fantastic environmental attorney but somewhere along the way he went cuckoo for coconuts.

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24 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Jesus Christ this dude is a nut job.

I opened the link for a look. There's a video directly under the OP of Kennedy telling the story of the bear. He appears to be in his kitchen where he tells the story to a woman in a housecoat. "Ah!" I think. Maybe there will be a glimpse of Cheryl Hines in this casual morning scene. 

Nope. It's not Hines. "No, that woman can't be...what is she doing there with a cup of coffee in her hand as though she just came down from her bedroom?"

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Weird.  (Actually clipped from video. No joke.)

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31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I swear, jobs reports exceeded all expectations damn near every time for the last 2 years and one bad one and we get this horseshit. 

 

29 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Based on what little I read the scope of the selloff is an overreaction and it's more related to interest rates than the jobs report. 

I think it's more a synptom of the big Yen carry trades that were going on than anything. It's already easing through the day

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Probably the biggest reason you aren't seeing more Harris signs is everyone is holding off until the VP announcement to get both candidates on the signs.   I would expect to see more hitting the streets in about 2 weeks.  

12 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I've watched about 80 hours of the Olympics so far and have yet to see a Trump ad. Harris has an ad every 45 minutes/1 hour. That is pretty interesting.

I think Trump fully believes that no matter how the election goes, he's got the system in place to overthrow it.  He's saving his campaign dollars for lawyers and insurrection organizers instead of actually trying to win the election.  

 

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18 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


Oh…so you support people shredding the roof of their mouth till it’s bloody? Asshole. Gonna make me vote for RFK’s brainworm!

Yeah…so, I understand why so many of yall are trying to find a way to rationalize reaching out to and connecting with Trump voters. They are family members, they’ve been friends. It’s hard.
But by now, after nearly 10 years of this shit…it’s over. They’re trash people. All of them. Yes, all of them. They know. They know he’s horrible. They know he wants to be an authoritarian dictator and end democracy. They know that he sides with our enemies (Putin etc) over our allies. They know he’s pointlessly cruel. They know he’s misogynist. They know he’s racist - yes, even the idiot black and Hispanic voters who support him know. They are trash. They are poison. They cannot be saved and brought back into the fold - can one or two, here and there, see the light? Sure…but it’s a statistically insignificant number. Give up on them, and do what any body does with diseased parts: isolate them, encapsulate them, and kick them out to the extent possible.
Fuck your asshole uncle. Don’t avoid him at thanksgiving: exclude him from thanksgiving. Cut him out of your life. He deserves it. And you deserve better than to waste another second of your life trying to convince a total piece of shit not to be a total piece of shit.
I’m done with them. And you should be too.

 

17 hours ago, MrBig said:

Do Trump voters know Trump is a bad person though? MAGA believes MAGA talking points because there is not someone convincing enough on the other side to make them think otherwise. Not all Trump voters are MAGA, and I believe these non-MAGA types of people can be persuaded to vote against Trump if the right message can be delivered. 

This is why I am pushing so hard for a guy like Tim Walz because I think he can connect with voters who vote Trump but aren’t MAGA fanatics because he comes across as a regular guy we all know. 

I know some people have a hard time believing it’s true, but some Trump voters can be swayed to the other side with right type of messaging. I’m not talking about the MAGA voters who are flat earther die hard Trump cock riders, I’m talking about regular people who vote for Trump because they are influenced by their families or churches or workplaces that lean heavy into the Republican Party like military and police officers. 

All some people need is a regular dude who just tells them hey, Trump is a bad dude and he’s not helping this country come together to help us solve our problems. You may disagree with us, but vote for us so we can work together to fix what’s wrong instead of voting for Trump who has absolutely no plan for anything. All they hear is that Trump is an existential threat to our Democracy and should be stopped. The existential threat to democracy argument is not going to sway these people to vote against Trump even if ruining democracy is the strongest argument that can be presented. 

Cutting Trump voters off entirely is a great way to remove negativity from our lives, but it does little for bringing people together to solve our problems. The best hope we have is to fine tune our messaging with candidates like Walz to help people understand how voting against Trump is in their best interest without doing it in a forceful or dishonest way.

I finally have been able to develop my action strategy wrt Trump voters. I have them in the following buckets with the associated action:

1. Too Stupid To Understand - these are idiots who fall for all of the propaganda and are simply too stupid to educate. Who wants to be around stupid people? I cut them all out my life except for family that I have to see. I minimize all conversation with those that remain. I just ignore them for the most part. 

2. Tragically Uninformed - with these people I tell them straight out my thoughts on Trump in the harshest way possible. I then ask them if they’ve actually read and researched various issues on non-biased sources. None of them have. I tell them I have and they are victims of disinformation campaigns and their views are simply wrong. I don’t give shit if I make them mad or hurt their feelings. The only exception I make here is if they are important family or work related people. In that case I soft pedal my views by saying I’m an independent and don’t support Trump because of all the research I’ve done. This usually shuts up this group, and maybe just maybe causes 1 out of 10 to change their mind over months or years. 

3. The Selfish Anti-Americans - these are the wealthy or religious nut jobs who support Trump solely for their self interest anti-America views. Fuck them. I cut them out of my life unless I have to tolerate them. I don’t waste a second trying to change their minds because it will never happen. This is why Elon and I are no longer friends. Of course we never were friends, but still!

4. The Confused - this is the most difficult group to deal with. They are educated, fairly well informed, recognize that the Republican Party does have some decent policies, but they perceive most facts thru a biased lens. They don’t realize they are victims of disinformation campaigns and think they’ve figured it all out. And, they are correct in saying that some Democrats policies are not good and so they don’t want to vote Democrat. I don’t cut these people out. I gently and rationally talk with them, but not often, about real facts and what disinformation is going around. I chip away at these people over years. I’m pretty sure I’ve flipped a fair number of them, or they figured out themselves that Trump is a moron. The rest are the ones we have to worry about at the polls  

This is my game plan. I think it’s good and I think everyone should be implementing it. 

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18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You have an actual MAGA poster on this very thread blaming Biden and the Dems for....things like the Nikkei index taking a beating.  For you MAGAs out there, the Nikkei index is the stock index for Japan.  Also for you MAGAs, Japan is another country.  Also for you MAGAs, neither Biden nor any other dem is in office in Japan.

As a side note, neither Biden nor any other dem is in office in ANY of the numerous other countries where their stock markets are also taking a similar if not worse beating the last few days.

Although, if your point is that you believe that Biden and the dems are so damned powerful that they control the stock markets in every country in the world....don't we WANT giant badasses like that, who can control the whole world, in office?  I mean, that's a pretty solid sales pitch.

Of course Biden has nothing to do with the Japanese stock market. How could he? He's too busy rigging boxing matches in France to make sure Italian female boxers are getting hurt by men.

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45 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Based on what little I read the scope of the selloff is an overreaction and it's more related to interest rates than the jobs report. 

The Federal Reserve should've cut interest rates by now. They seem to have blinders on. 

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The Federal Reserve should've cut interest rates by now. They seem to have blinders on. 


they need a kick in the ass and modern leadership 

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

I live in one of about 8 districts that has a dem in the state legislature and a trump flag went up around the corner. Pretty disheartening, but i posted in 2020 after Biden won, a bunch of American flags went up on my street the following day, including my house. But in general, it really does feel that the full maga movement is far more muted this time around.

It's maga now. Like e e cummings.

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If the market was surging because it knew he was going to win, is this him admitting that the market now knows Harris is going to win?

Great thing about saying whatever you want, even when it contradicts earlier things you said. It doesn’t even matter.
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