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3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

It's like everyone forgets that the guy who mowed down 20+ Hispanics in the El Paso Walmart expressly said he did it in response to the president's constant theme of invasions and immigrants "poisoning the blood" of America. A direct fucking link there and here we are, being told that we're at war with "libruls" because a hateful asshat was murdered and we don't even know who did it and what their motive was at this point. Fucking infuriating.

The guy who shot up the 4th of July parade in a Chicago suburb a few years ago was maga. So was the Tree of Life synagogue shooter and the guy who shot up a grocery store in Buffalo. That’s just a few of the ones I remember off tbd top of my head.

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The guy who shot up the 4th of July parade in a Chicago suburb a few years ago was maga. So was the Tree of Life synagogue shooter and the guy who shot up a grocery store in Buffalo. That’s just a few of the ones I remember off tbd top of my head.

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The guy who shot up the 4th of July parade in a Chicago suburb a few years ago was maga. So was the Tree of Life synagogue shooter and the guy who shot up a grocery store in Buffalo. That’s just a few of the ones I remember off tbd top of my head.

Allen Outlets too

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46 minutes ago, austingirl said:

It's not debate if one side insists on their viewpoint regardless of evidence that says otherwise. 

So, like Surly?

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17 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Well now his wife can enjoy all that money with whatever new guy she shacks up with. 

 

her last husband was in the closet, she should find a straight guy 

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Just now, hookem2010 said:

This lionization of Kirk by even non-conservative politicians and media members is fucking disgusting and has to be incredibly insulting to gays, women, minorities, non-Christians and immigrants. Not celebrating the killing is obviously good, but this wasn't some hero that died. What the fuck

Democrats and liberal pundits will abandon marginalized people at the drop of a hat. They cannot be counted on to protect anyone, any more than you'd expect 6th grade "linemen" to protect a QB against an NFL defensive line and Micah Parsons.

This is why Democratic politicians have hemorrhaged support from communities of color. If you can't fight, get the fuck out of politics.

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Through the first dataset, the Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States (PIRUS), the researchers zeroed in on acts of extremism in the United States from 1948-2018. They found nearly no difference between the likelihood of an Islamist extremist and a right-wing extremist committing an act of violence; the probability of a violent act of extremism in the United States being committed by a left-wing extremist was found to be 0.33, 0.61 by a right-wing extremist, and 0.62 by an Islamist extremist.

https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups

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If we're being accurate about El Paso. The maga shooter probably only got a dozen of those 20. The rest were "good guys with guns" who got taken out by the cops when they rushed in looking to take out anyone with a gun

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Also Christianity has never been about some strict adherence to a written moral code. The main thing is training people from a very young age to believe in things that don't make sense.

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FB is wild. I can't post it but there's a new pic of him circulating holding the bible in one hand with the American flag draped over him with Mt. Rushmore in the background. Why is the racist, bigot, pro-2A dead guy getting memorialized?

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8 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Fake Christians like you are why we are in the terrible situation we are in. Your adoption of American “how many people can I hate in the name of Christianity” theology makes you the farthest thing from a Christian, no matter how much you insist that you are.   It is one thing to be trash like Kirk, and quite another to revere trash like Kirk.   But you do you.  Brother. 

To be fair, both are trash. 

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/survey-34-of-students-believe-in-violence-to-stop-campus-speech/vi-AA1Mmu0n?ocid=winp1taskbar
 

real good news for the future. Probably fits best on the youth intolerance thread but can go here as explanation and warning. 

Fuck it - we had a good run, but ...

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Hopefully someone can take away our nukes because not sure we should be trusted with them any time soon.

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11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I would rather have Cash from Tango and Cash or the ghost of Johnny Cash on this case than Kash Patel.  

Nothing would be more fitting to this racist, fascist piece of shit than for his killer to remain free. 

Also,  could cause the other hate spewing pieces of shit like him to peer over their shoulders and worry if they are next. That is a good thing. They should fear for their lives for spreading hatred and propaganda to their fellow citizens. They should be made to keep their heads down and quiet their destructive rhetoric. This last decade and a half of American history is text book case in how fascist governments that terrorize citizens are formed. Without the strength of leadership to stop it early it becomes this. 

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5 minutes ago, coachherman'sgrill said:

FB is wild. I can't post it but there's a new pic of him circulating holding the bible in one hand with the American flag draped over him with Mt. Rushmore in the background. Why is the racist, bigot, pro-2A dead guy getting memorialized?

Because a large portion of the USA are irredeemable ghouls who bought fully into the hate machine these maga lunatics promote. These are horrible people that walk amongst us. 

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For those who are scrambling to get caught up to speed on Charlie Kirk and what all this means and get a primer, I just read this and it's a great 5 minute recap of his background, political adventures and the fall-out as we know it so far (spoiled because it's long-ish):

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Kirk’s political journey began in 2012, when he was still in high school. He wrote an article for Breitbart about liberal bias in economics textbooks and then used the article as the basis for a speech at Benedictine University’s Youth Government Day that same year. Tea Party donor Bill Montgomery, impressed by Kirk’s speech, gave him money to start Turning Point USA. And at the Republican National Convention that year Kirk received even more funding for TPUSA and he was dubbed “the boy wonder.”

Kirk and TPUSA spent much of Trump’s first administration consolidating an audience on social platforms, building out massive YouTube and podcast operations. And in 2020, they were one of the early voices claiming that the election was stolen by Democrats. In January 2021, TPUSA chartered 80 buses to attend the January 6th “Stop The Steal” protest. Kirk then deleted his tweet advertising the buses, and pleaded the fifth when he was asked to testify about it. The convicted protesters who rode the buses would eventually call him a traitor.

As X user @OneWordPowerful wrote, “It’s hard to imagine a life more wasted than Kirk’s. Committing yourself as a teenager to spending your short time on earth producing mindless slop on behalf of old dying millionaires about Cracker Barrel culture war shit.”

But all of this is important for understanding where Kirk existed within the larger MAGA ecosystem. He positioned himself as a reasonable moderate, never veering too far into blood and soil white nationalism, focusing, instead, on laundering less extreme conservative values to young internet users, such as evangelical Christianity, the banning of gay marriage and abortion, fearmongering about black crime, free market liberalism, and, of course, open access to firearms.

Kirk’s whole schtick was best captured in his viral Jubilee debate, which was uploaded the same day Kirk was spreading the “Haitians in Ohio eating pets” conspiracy theory. Kirk’s refusal to fully embrace far-right politics made him a regular punching bag among more reactionary influencers like Nick Fuentes and his Gen Z extremist movement, the Groypers. But Kirk’s death has galvanized these disparate factions of Trump World. They clearly see this as their one big chance for blood.

(youtube.com/@jubilee)

Steve Bannon, on his War Room podcast last night, called Kirk “totally irreplaceable,” with co-host Jack Posobiec following that up with, “There’s never going to be another assassin to take out someone like the way they did because of what comes next will be swift, quick, and it will be retribution.” The Manhattan Institute’s Christopher Rufo was similarly careful not to go too far, writing on X, “It is time, within the confines of the law, to infiltrate, disrupt, arrest, and incarcerate all of those who are responsible for this chaos.” Andrew Tate, on the other hand, simply posted on X, “Civil war.” And far-right author Matt Forney said the quiet part out loud, writing on X, “Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire.”

Right-wingers are also now building large-scale doxxing campaigns. They’ve set up a website called Expose Charlie's Murderers, where they’re collecting information on liberals and leftists “supporting political violence online.” And Chaya Raichik, the mastermind behind Libs Of TikTok, is using X to direct the Trump-controlled FBI towards random TikTok users celebrating Kirk’s death. All of this buoyed by an army of bots calling for civil war and martial law.

Automated accounts with AI-generated avatars mindlessly are replying to anything on X about Kirk’s death with garbled demands for the mass execution of Democrats. And X’s Grok has also broken down, labeling videos of Kirk’s death a “meme edit” and telling users that he’s still alive. There are also plenty of conspiracy theories.

Beyond narratives that a crazed leftist killed Kirk, which, at this point, should be considered a standard response from the online right for literally everything, the major narrative that emerged this morning is that Kirk was murdered by Israel. This is being heavily promoted by figures like Info Wars host Harrison H. Smith. And clips are circulating on X claiming that Kirk was killed for promoting the conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein had ties to Israel’s intelligence community. That said, leftists on X are also remarking how odd it is that major members of the Israeli government are posting about Kirk nonstop. Though, this is likely explained by the fact Kirk was a staunch Zionist. A position that didn’t seem conflict with his antisemitism.

Users have also latched on to the genuinely strange details that quickly emerged after the attack. The professionalism of the single shot execution, carried out by a gunman at least 200 yards away, FBI Director Kash Patel’s completely bungled initial handling of the investigation, the multiple false leads and mistakenly-arrested persons of interest, including 71-year-old George Zinn, who was recorded by a panicked crowd of college students being detained after the shooting. According to The Salt Lake Tribune, Zinn is known in the area for protesting and disrupting events. There are also plenty of users poring over footage of Kirk’s death and dreaming up conspiracies about armed soldiers, private jets, secret hand signals, and crypto-funded kill markets.

There’s also the very weird coincidence of Jezebel hiring Etsy witches to curse Kirk last week. They’ve since added an editor’s note “condemning the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms.” That hasn’t stopped the Etsy witches from becoming very popular on Tumblr and TikTok.

Adding to the general unreality of everything, President Donald Trump posted a video to X declaring Kirk’s death an “assassination.” The video features a confounding edit around 20 seconds in that appears to be the result of splicing of two different takes together and using AI upscaling. But this has nevertheless inspired rumors that Trump is using an AI avatar.

Meanwhile, Vice President JD Vance, who Kirk was early in supporting as Trump’s running mate, wrote a very long post on X mourning him. Former other vice president Elon Musk has been slightly more reserved, however, writing on X, “He was murdered.” Musk is also sharing videos of random people, claiming they are connected to Kirk’s death somehow. Which is probably the best glimpse we have of what comes next. As we wait for a response from the Trump administration that is likely to be more ferocious than anything we’ve seen so far.

(x.com/wildbarestepf)

Kirk has already achieved martyr status among conservatives. Trump ordered that flags fly at half mast all weekend and Kirk will posthumously receive the Medal of Freedom. Which makes fears among leftists of federally-sanctioned street violence feel not all that hyperbolic. If you place Kirk’s murder along a timeline that includes Luigi Mangione’s alleged murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, both of attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, the quickly forgotten assassinations of two Minnesota legislators this summer, the accelerationist spree shooters connected to the 764 terror cell and the Com network that emerged this year, and the endless background radiation of political violence we’ve seen since the start of the COVID pandemic, you could argue that all of this actually started in August 2020. When Kyle Rittenhouse opened fire on streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin. Kirk’s death was simply the first one to be truly optimized for our new, fractured media landscape. Impossible to ignore in a world where it’s impossible to pay attention.

Every instance of political violence, no matter the side that is carrying it out, is a tragedy. Yesterday was no different, regardless of Kirk’s views. And there is assuredly more come violence to come. A fight broke out at a vigil for Kirk in Boise, Idaho, last night, as a crowd of his supporters swarmed a protester wearing a rainbow backpack. According to a spokesperson for the Democratic National Convention, Capitol police swept through DNC headquarters today after reports of a bomb threat. And half a dozen historically Black colleges went into lockdown today after reportedly receiving threats. Fox News host Jesse Watters told their audience last night, “The politicians, the media, and all these rats out there. This can never happen again. It ends now.”

Kirk spent his final days scrambling to drum up viral energy around the stabbing death of Iryna Zarutska. Kirk’s last post on X reads, “If we want things to change, it's 100% necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Iryna Zarutska because it was politics that allowed a savage monster with 14 priors to be free on the streets to kill her.” The Ukrainian refugee was allegedly killed by a black man named Decarlos Brown Jr. while riding the light rail in Charlotte, North Carolina. Kirk and his fellow right-wing influencers spent the weekend trying to transform the story into a national talking point. Desperate for something that could suck all of the oxygen out of the House Oversight Committee’s investigation in Trump’s ties to Epstein, the plan was clearly to use Zarutska’s death as a pretext for racial street violence and an increased federal occupation of American cities by the National Guard. And now Kirk has become the pretext he was so dutifully searching for. More content for his fellow influencers to share and comment on and monetize and fuel their endless culture war. A war that has just become a lot more literal.

 

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18 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I would rather have Cash from Tango and Cash or the ghost of Johnny Cash on this case than Kash Patel.  

I don't think you are properly accounting for the accompanying force multiplier that is Dong Mangina. 

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1 hour ago, Da Fino said:

1. Shoulder thing that goes up

2. Ghost gun

3. Barrel Shroud

4. What's the efficacy of banning these magazine clips?

5. This right here has the ability with a 30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. 30 magazine clip within half a second

6. bum stock

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18 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

For those who are scrambling to get caught up to speed on Charlie Kirk and what all this means and get a primer, I just read this and it's a great 5 minute recap of his background, political adventures and the fall-out as we know it so far (spoiled because it's long-ish):

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Kirk’s political journey began in 2012, when he was still in high school. He wrote an article for Breitbart about liberal bias in economics textbooks and then used the article as the basis for a speech at Benedictine University’s Youth Government Day that same year. Tea Party donor Bill Montgomery, impressed by Kirk’s speech, gave him money to start Turning Point USA. And at the Republican National Convention that year Kirk received even more funding for TPUSA and he was dubbed “the boy wonder.”

Kirk and TPUSA spent much of Trump’s first administration consolidating an audience on social platforms, building out massive YouTube and podcast operations. And in 2020, they were one of the early voices claiming that the election was stolen by Democrats. In January 2021, TPUSA chartered 80 buses to attend the January 6th “Stop The Steal” protest. Kirk then deleted his tweet advertising the buses, and pleaded the fifth when he was asked to testify about it. The convicted protesters who rode the buses would eventually call him a traitor.

As X user @OneWordPowerful wrote, “It’s hard to imagine a life more wasted than Kirk’s. Committing yourself as a teenager to spending your short time on earth producing mindless slop on behalf of old dying millionaires about Cracker Barrel culture war shit.”

But all of this is important for understanding where Kirk existed within the larger MAGA ecosystem. He positioned himself as a reasonable moderate, never veering too far into blood and soil white nationalism, focusing, instead, on laundering less extreme conservative values to young internet users, such as evangelical Christianity, the banning of gay marriage and abortion, fearmongering about black crime, free market liberalism, and, of course, open access to firearms.

Kirk’s whole schtick was best captured in his viral Jubilee debate, which was uploaded the same day Kirk was spreading the “Haitians in Ohio eating pets” conspiracy theory. Kirk’s refusal to fully embrace far-right politics made him a regular punching bag among more reactionary influencers like Nick Fuentes and his Gen Z extremist movement, the Groypers. But Kirk’s death has galvanized these disparate factions of Trump World. They clearly see this as their one big chance for blood.

(youtube.com/@jubilee)

Steve Bannon, on his War Room podcast last night, called Kirk “totally irreplaceable,” with co-host Jack Posobiec following that up with, “There’s never going to be another assassin to take out someone like the way they did because of what comes next will be swift, quick, and it will be retribution.” The Manhattan Institute’s Christopher Rufo was similarly careful not to go too far, writing on X, “It is time, within the confines of the law, to infiltrate, disrupt, arrest, and incarcerate all of those who are responsible for this chaos.” Andrew Tate, on the other hand, simply posted on X, “Civil war.” And far-right author Matt Forney said the quiet part out loud, writing on X, “Charlie Kirk being assassinated is the American Reichstag fire.”

Right-wingers are also now building large-scale doxxing campaigns. They’ve set up a website called Expose Charlie's Murderers, where they’re collecting information on liberals and leftists “supporting political violence online.” And Chaya Raichik, the mastermind behind Libs Of TikTok, is using X to direct the Trump-controlled FBI towards random TikTok users celebrating Kirk’s death. All of this buoyed by an army of bots calling for civil war and martial law.

Automated accounts with AI-generated avatars mindlessly are replying to anything on X about Kirk’s death with garbled demands for the mass execution of Democrats. And X’s Grok has also broken down, labeling videos of Kirk’s death a “meme edit” and telling users that he’s still alive. There are also plenty of conspiracy theories.

Beyond narratives that a crazed leftist killed Kirk, which, at this point, should be considered a standard response from the online right for literally everything, the major narrative that emerged this morning is that Kirk was murdered by Israel. This is being heavily promoted by figures like Info Wars host Harrison H. Smith. And clips are circulating on X claiming that Kirk was killed for promoting the conspiracy theory that Jeffrey Epstein had ties to Israel’s intelligence community. That said, leftists on X are also remarking how odd it is that major members of the Israeli government are posting about Kirk nonstop. Though, this is likely explained by the fact Kirk was a staunch Zionist. A position that didn’t seem conflict with his antisemitism.

Users have also latched on to the genuinely strange details that quickly emerged after the attack. The professionalism of the single shot execution, carried out by a gunman at least 200 yards away, FBI Director Kash Patel’s completely bungled initial handling of the investigation, the multiple false leads and mistakenly-arrested persons of interest, including 71-year-old George Zinn, who was recorded by a panicked crowd of college students being detained after the shooting. According to The Salt Lake Tribune, Zinn is known in the area for protesting and disrupting events. There are also plenty of users poring over footage of Kirk’s death and dreaming up conspiracies about armed soldiers, private jets, secret hand signals, and crypto-funded kill markets.

There’s also the very weird coincidence of Jezebel hiring Etsy witches to curse Kirk last week. They’ve since added an editor’s note “condemning the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms.” That hasn’t stopped the Etsy witches from becoming very popular on Tumblr and TikTok.

Adding to the general unreality of everything, President Donald Trump posted a video to X declaring Kirk’s death an “assassination.” The video features a confounding edit around 20 seconds in that appears to be the result of splicing of two different takes together and using AI upscaling. But this has nevertheless inspired rumors that Trump is using an AI avatar.

Meanwhile, Vice President JD Vance, who Kirk was early in supporting as Trump’s running mate, wrote a very long post on X mourning him. Former other vice president Elon Musk has been slightly more reserved, however, writing on X, “He was murdered.” Musk is also sharing videos of random people, claiming they are connected to Kirk’s death somehow. Which is probably the best glimpse we have of what comes next. As we wait for a response from the Trump administration that is likely to be more ferocious than anything we’ve seen so far.

(x.com/wildbarestepf)

Kirk has already achieved martyr status among conservatives. Trump ordered that flags fly at half mast all weekend and Kirk will posthumously receive the Medal of Freedom. Which makes fears among leftists of federally-sanctioned street violence feel not all that hyperbolic. If you place Kirk’s murder along a timeline that includes Luigi Mangione’s alleged murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, both of attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, the quickly forgotten assassinations of two Minnesota legislators this summer, the accelerationist spree shooters connected to the 764 terror cell and the Com network that emerged this year, and the endless background radiation of political violence we’ve seen since the start of the COVID pandemic, you could argue that all of this actually started in August 2020. When Kyle Rittenhouse opened fire on streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin. Kirk’s death was simply the first one to be truly optimized for our new, fractured media landscape. Impossible to ignore in a world where it’s impossible to pay attention.

Every instance of political violence, no matter the side that is carrying it out, is a tragedy. Yesterday was no different, regardless of Kirk’s views. And there is assuredly more come violence to come. A fight broke out at a vigil for Kirk in Boise, Idaho, last night, as a crowd of his supporters swarmed a protester wearing a rainbow backpack. According to a spokesperson for the Democratic National Convention, Capitol police swept through DNC headquarters today after reports of a bomb threat. And half a dozen historically Black colleges went into lockdown today after reportedly receiving threats. Fox News host Jesse Watters told their audience last night, “The politicians, the media, and all these rats out there. This can never happen again. It ends now.”

Kirk spent his final days scrambling to drum up viral energy around the stabbing death of Iryna Zarutska. Kirk’s last post on X reads, “If we want things to change, it's 100% necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Iryna Zarutska because it was politics that allowed a savage monster with 14 priors to be free on the streets to kill her.” The Ukrainian refugee was allegedly killed by a black man named Decarlos Brown Jr. while riding the light rail in Charlotte, North Carolina. Kirk and his fellow right-wing influencers spent the weekend trying to transform the story into a national talking point. Desperate for something that could suck all of the oxygen out of the House Oversight Committee’s investigation in Trump’s ties to Epstein, the plan was clearly to use Zarutska’s death as a pretext for racial street violence and an increased federal occupation of American cities by the National Guard. And now Kirk has become the pretext he was so dutifully searching for. More content for his fellow influencers to share and comment on and monetize and fuel their endless culture war. A war that has just become a lot more literal.

 

I had forgotten about his January 6th involvement.  I could totally see one of those convicted rioters turning on him.  That's as good a guess as any.

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1 hour ago, Hookah Horns said:

Had the same thought when I read that. Really dumb to release that. 

I am sure that moving the most competent agents to immigration enforcement had nothing to do with that bullshit.

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6 hours ago, Macklemore said:

C’mon - we all know what Covri’s intent was — that Charlie Kirk got what he deserved for his political opinions. Kirk stood in the arena and was willing to debate people about those political opinions. He was a hugely influential Gen Z influencer that helped elect Trump and the GOP. That’s enough background necessary for a DT thread. Y’all’s opinions about Charlie’s positions belongs in the cesspool where you can fling shit at each other. Judge Roybeanbag’s posts in the DT thread belong here. It’s ridiculous that my post calling out this bullshit gets moved to CR, a place that purposely I avoid.

You belong in a straight jacket. Maybe one that’s tailored.

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The most rage-y thing about the new GOP evangelism is the large number of prominent GOPers who engage in that while having no real belief in it (other than as a means to grift).    

It seems like American political leadership is looking back with fondness at the crusades.   It made no difference then who you slaughtered - or why you slaughtered them.  Facts were far less important than Feels.   But it created a huge market for religious icons.   The oligarchs got the peasants to pay to go on pilgrimages to venerate Saint Dilbert‘s Holy dehydrated penis.  Erbody made bank. 

How many hours before Trump is selling a commemorative Charlie Kirk digital coin?

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23 minutes ago, Blotto said:

I don't think you are properly accounting for the accompanying force multiplier that is Dong Mangina. 

Im old Gregg, I gotta mangina!

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50 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Fake Christians like you are why we are in the terrible situation we are in. Your adoption of American “how many people can I hate in the name of Christianity” theology makes you the farthest thing from a Christian, no matter how much you insist that you are.   It is one thing to be trash like Kirk, and quite another to revere trash like Kirk.   But you do you.  Brother. 

If it makes you feel better he'll be the first against the wall when the people he supports fully take over

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12 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Completely different. I was able to spend the day reading and fishing at Kailua. People just randomly stopped walking on the beach to talk about fishing. Being a full continent’s worth of miles away from the mainland is a nice feature of being here. @Orale can probably speak more to that since he has been here for several years. Hawai’i is the last place I will ever live in America before heading away at the end of next year. If you have the ability to do so make this place your home for a little while at least. It has definitely been amazing to reconnect so much with nature and the ocean here.

I’m here on the big island too. I’ve been able to mostly disconnect and no worry about the stuff on the mainland for a few days at least.
 

Did a 6:30am canoe paddle this morning and took part in a Hawaiian tradition of lifting up the sun and being thankful for the new day. We could all do with a disconnect to refocus on what’s important. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

A former HS friend who is now an elected official posted this on Facebook.  She definitely thinks she's a badass, but beyond that this reeks of indoctrination.  The weird thing is, she's very close with her sister who is a lesbian professor of architecture and who somehow didn't get infected with any political virus other than the kind, compassionate progressive bug.  I have no idea how they still talk.

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23 hours ago, Foosters said:

Quotes from this "unifier:

"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"

"I refuse to lie. I will not call a man or a woman a man like I refuse to do that. And in fact, I reject the entire premise of trans transgenderism. I don't think it really exists. I think it’s a mental disease."

Kirk went on a rant alleging that Jewish communities deny they are white and "push... hatred against whites". He also claimed that "some of the largest financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans".

 In 2023, Kirk claimed on his show that women should not be in military combat roles and that men should not be preschool teachers, arguing that denying the differences between men and women "creates moral chaos, panic, and confusion".

 

I think you, and everyone cheering, is missing the point.  I am not a Charlie Kirk fan but, in America, one is allowed to be stupid.  It is everyone's right to have opinions that are not the same as yours (or mine) without the threat of violence.

Charlie engaged in war of words.  If people are not capable of countering those words with words of their own, the answer is not to shoot the other person.

I hate the Left and the Right - while agreeing with some issues from both - and I should feel free to have those conversations / debate without fear of losing my life.

This shooting, and others like it, impact all of us negatively no matter what your beliefs are.  It should not be celebrated.

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Just now, caliHORNia said:

 

I think you, and everyone cheering, is missing the point.  I am not a Charlie Kirk fan but, in America, one is allowed to be stupid.  It is everyone's right to have opinions that are not the same as yours (or mine) without the threat of violence.

Charlie engaged in war of words.  If people are not capable of countering those words with words of their own, the answer is not to shoot the other person.

I hate the Left and the Right - while agreeing with some issues from both - and I should feel free to have those conversations / debate without fear of losing my life.

Cheering. Fuck off. Not once did I support the shooting, defend it, or excuse it. I was pushing back that he was some "unifier" and promoted peace. That was it. 

Missing the point, indeed.

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I think you, and everyone cheering, is missing the point.  I am not a Charlie Kirk fan but, in America, one is allowed to be stupid.  It is everyone's right to have opinions that are not the same as yours (or mine) without the threat of violence.
Charlie engaged in war of words.  If people are not capable of countering those words with words of their own, the answer is not to shoot the other person.
I hate the Left and the Right - while agreeing with some issues from both - and I should feel free to have those conversations / debate without fear of losing my life.
This shooting, and others like it, impact all of us negatively no matter what your beliefs are.  It should not be celebrated.

Is this a joke?


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