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The Democratic Party needs to clean house and bring in a whole new set of people who can figure out how to capture the right data, combat disinformation, establish the right campaign strategies, develop the right messaging, and execute that messaging. And that whole turnaround needs to start now and continue mercilessly for the next four years. Bang the messaging drum constantly for four years, just like the Republicans do. 

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9 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Find yourself a Bill Clinton that can lie and be a piece of shit when need be. It's what the people want.

100% this.

I wish that wasn't true.  Because Clinton is and always was loathsome.  But man, did people love him.  For similar reasons as Trump (vibes).  That's what it takes to win a presidential election in the US.  It's just the way it is.  We are a shitty people, so we insist on electing mostly shitty people.

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We need a straight, white, male, AOC. Instead of chasing an ever moving middle, go left. Run on Universal
health and tax cuts for everyone under $400k etc etc.

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5 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

We need a straight, white, male, AOC.

We need brain transplants for about 75% of our population. When you've got people saying they voted for Trump because "he'll save abortion", and huge spikes on election day in searches for "did Biden drop out?", you're in a different spot. Honestly I think name recognition did it. Everyone knows who Trump is. Half our fucking idiot population probably doesn't know who Kamala Harris is. 

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17 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

We need a straight, white, male, AOC. Instead of chasing an ever moving middle, go left. Run on Universal
health and tax cuts for everyone under $400k etc etc.

A 30 year old Mike Gravel

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31 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


Wait - are you bald or short? Gotta check all the TV boxes.

Apparently, being a shameless serial sexual predator is a pretty strong point in your favor.  Pussies are for grabbing, and shoving cigars into, apparently.  America: that's how we roll.

I'd say "sorry, ladies".....but enough women enthusiastically vote for that stuff that....yeah, I can't figure it out either.  Same reason I could never figure out how some gals I knew kept running from one abusive relationship to another.  But that's what they did, without fail.

So, we need an old white dude who is a sexual predator, and a good huckster with little regard for the truth.  That's how you win two terms in the White House.  The black dude?  What an anomaly.  And he broke our brains anyway.

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We need a straight, white, male, AOC. Instead of chasing an ever moving middle, go left. Run on Universal
health and tax cuts for everyone under $400k etc etc.

No. Just run on the economy. That’s the only thing that wins elections. After you win, you can literally implement any policy you want and history has shown Americans will shrug their shoulders and live with it. You just can’t run on any of that shit.
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I guess all of Trumps howling and disinformation spreading about the 2020 election being stolen and never actually admitting he lost worked very well in keeping him in power and in focus within MAGA GOP and kept him the presumptive nominee, couldn't move on even if they wanted to (they didn't) where as Democrats gonna forget Kamala exists even quicker than Trump forgot Pence existed...or had a right to be alive and not swinging from a rope...

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On 11/20/2024 at 8:30 AM, immamac said:

Lol as much shit as everyone wants to talk about the president-elect, I'm really surprised people haven't piled on more against Kamala. She's become completely irrelevant overnight. 

She always was irrelevant. A major loser in the 2020 primary who was DEI'd onto the Biden ticket and then selected by the powers that be to be the candidate. There was some brief attention paid to her because we had no other choice, but at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance or importance about her.

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I’m dead serious McConaughey could win the presidency in 2028.  
 

The Dems need one of the following: a younger version of Al Franken, Straight version of Mayor Pete, or White male version of AOC.  

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41 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

She always was irrelevant. A major loser in the 2020 primary who was DEI'd onto the Biden ticket and then selected by the powers that be to be the candidate. There was some brief attention paid to her because we had no other choice, but at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance or importance about her.

LMFAO thinking Harris lost / Trump won because of fucking policy.  
 

Dems played loser identity politics.  If they’d ran a white male under 80 who kept quiet about trans and brown people, they would have won.  

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40 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

LMFAO thinking Harris lost / Trump won because of fucking policy. 

What are you talking about.

I was talking about Harris's (ir)relevance as a player in politics, not her campaign against Trump.

Keep up.

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I still chuckle at least once daily at the poster - can't remember who it was but they crawled from the sewer as soon as the election results were known - who was trying to say we're all bad people for calling our dipshit-elect a dotard. They thought it was a combination of Donald and retard and really I cannot think of a better allegory for what is going on right now.

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5 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

LMFAO thinking Harris lost / Trump won because of fucking policy.  
 

Dems played loser identity politics.  If they’d ran a white male under 80 who kept quiet about trans and brown people, they would have won.  

First part I agree with.   The second part was that the DP put up women to run.  America allowed black men to vote in the 1870 but needed 50 more years to allow women to vote.    It had nothing to do with policy, qualifications, decency, or whatever.  

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5 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

What are you talking about.

I was talking about Harris's (ir)relevance as a player in politics, not her campaign against Trump.

Keep up.

wtf are YOU talking about?  Your comment literally said “at no time since her announcement in 2019 has she been the driving force behind any policy ideas or political shift. Never a whiff of substance”, bringing forward the idea that she lost because she wasn’t the driving force behind any policy ideas and substance, as if that fucking mattered.

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12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

This is some moral victory ass shit.

The writers seem to think that if they can convince enough people in media that Trump doesn't have a "mandate," that will somehow meaningfully restrain Republicans. To which the obvious response is, "have you ever met any Republicans?"

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10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The writers seem to think that if they can convince enough people in media that Trump doesn't have a "mandate," that will somehow meaningfully restrain Republicans. To which the obvious response is, "have you ever met any Republicans?"

I took it as a dumb ass attempt to get Team morale up

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On 11/20/2024 at 6:13 PM, DaysOff said:

Find yourself a Bill Clinton that can lie and be a piece of shit when need be. It's what the people want.

Starts with being white male, which isn't winnable by itself.  But it's very difficult to keep a coalition of different wants together.  Anglos can look back and say we want to go back to feeling like we're in power.  No other ethnic group can do that, and they all have different ideas about achieving their desired end goal.  Some of us said it's all about racism, and are seeing that unions ran against their interests based on anti tran and immigrant legislation. What platform can the Democrats rally around that promotes racism?  Their platform will have to come after the fact--some economic collapse that reminds Americans that it's cheaper and more stable to live together. 

Edit: The divide is the one that the rich created and continuously cultivate.  

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On 11/20/2024 at 8:30 AM, immamac said:

Lol as much shit as everyone wants to talk about the president-elect, I'm really surprised people haven't piled on more against Kamala. She's become completely irrelevant overnight. 

Weren't you the same person claiming on this very website that Kamala Harris ran a perfect and flawless campaign?

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On 11/25/2024 at 4:20 PM, Frank Drebin said:

Weren't you the same person claiming on this very website that Kamala Harris ran a perfect and flawless campaign?

There’s an easy to use search function here

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At least the spam emails begging for money from the Harris campaign that ended (checks notes) 3.5 weeks ago have finally stopped.

My lesson learned; never donate another fucking cent to any campaign.  Ever.

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8 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

At least the spam emails begging for money from the Harris campaign that ended (checks notes) 3.5 weeks ago have finally stopped.

My lesson learned; never donate another fucking cent to any campaign.  Ever.

You insensitive cad. You really expect 25-year-old Georgetown interns to go without their mid-afternoon soy lattes?

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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

You insensitive cad. You really expect 25-year-old Georgetown interns to go without their mid-afternoon soy lattes?

The interns are not the problem.  They work for free or next to nothing.

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I spoke to my friend who runs a PAC (along with 6 others I learned tonight). His PAC does GOTV nationally and they had money left over. Learned some stuff that was news to me. Sorry if some or all is common knowledge here.

Prior to June debate, internal polling had Biden with a small but consistent lead over Trump. The day after the debate, his PAC, including him, met with Biden campaign, and the campaign was insisting that everything was fine. The key data that convinced Biden to drop out was internal polling showing he was a huge drag on House races. Biden purposely waited to drop out to make sure Harris would be nominee. GOTV operation was underfunded in battlegrounds. He said only 1m was allocated to all GOTV in Philadelphia. He thinks Harris campaign spent too much on broadcast ads not enough on targeted ads and GOTV (not surprised by his bias re: GOTV). The counties he was personally responsible for in FL Harris mostly won or did better than expected.

The difference between internal and public polling is huge according to him. Internal polling has voter lists that they use to target calls. Internals are in the field longer and more persistent with call backs. They ask better, more targeted questions. They have a much larger sample size.

He was very disappointed, not a surprise. I was surprised by how much he wanted to talk.

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Didn't see this posted. Delete if it was.

Interesting read. I assume this has gained traction in the news?

 

https://substack.com/inbox/post/165658733?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election.

How Leonard Leo's 2021 sale of an electronics firm enabled tech giants to subvert the 2024 election

 

To most, Tripp Lite was just a hardware brand—battery backups, surge protectors, power strips. But in America’s elections, Tripp Lite devices were something else entirely.

They are physically connected to ES&S central tabulators and Electionware servers, and Dominion tabulators and central servers across the country. And they aren’t dumb devices. They are smart UPS units—programmable, updatable, and capable of communicating directly with the election system via USB, serial port, or Ethernet.

ES&S systems, including central tabulators and Electionware servers, rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware.

If Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could have gained root-level access to the host tabulation environment—without ever modifying certified election software.

In Dominion’s Democracy Suite 5.17, the drivers for these UPS units are listed as “optional”—meaning they can be updated remotely without triggering certification requirements or oversight. Optional means unregulated. Unregulated means invisible. And invisible means perfect for infiltration.

 

After the Tripp Lite acquisition, Eaton stayed under the radar. But in May 2024, it resurfaced with an announcement that escaped most headlines: Eaton was deepening its partnership with Palantir Technologies.

Let’s be clear, Palantir wasn’t brought in for customer service. It was brought in to do what it does best: manage, shape, and secure vast streams of data—quietly. According to Eaton’s own release, Palantir’s role would include:
- AI-driven oversight of connected infrastructure
- Automated analysis of large datasets
- And—most critically—“secure erasure of digital footprints”

The Digital Janitor: also known as forensic sanitization, it was now being embedded into Eaton-managed hardware connected directly to voting systems. Palantir didn’t change the votes. It helped ensure you’d never prove it if someone else did.

 

According to New York Times reporting, on October 5—just before Starlink’s DTC activation—Musk texted a confidant:

“I’m feeling more optimistic after tonight. Tomorrow we unleash the anomaly in the matrix.”

Then, an hour later:

“This isn’t something on the chessboard, so they’ll be quite surprised. ‘Lasers’ from space.”

It read like a riddle. In hindsight, it was a blueprint.

Let’s review what was in place:

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This wasn’t a theory. It was a full-scale operation. A systemic digital occupation—clean, credentialed, and remote-controlled.

 

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