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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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Yeah the policies….are pretty horrifically awful too. That says a lot of what they’ll put up with for “lower taxes”

Pssst….they’re not “putting up with” the shittiness….they actually like it. The “lower taxes” bit is just cover for how shitty they really are.

That’s the thing that’s so hard for all of us to come to grips with: that 47% of our fellow countrymen, including friends and dear family members, are irredeemably awful human beings. We used to look at Nazi Germany and ask how could that happen, and now we know “oh….it happened because of people like my brother/father/mother/friend.”
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7 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

I'm the opposite of some of y'all. My complicated relationship w/ my 79 YO dad has improved slightly due to his hate from Trump. Full disclosure, when I was a 7 YO in '76 I asked him if he was voting for Carter or Ford (yeah, I was an advanced nerd at a young age). His response was "none of your damn business." That's when I discovered a valuable family tenet: you keep your politics to yourself.

I know his wife voted for W and Romney and suspect he followed suit due to being at the "I got mine, fuck you" stage of his boomer cycle. He's been retired in CO for 20+ years and bitches about legal weed and "those damn bicycle lanes they're putting up everywhere." So I was very pleasantly surprised 4 years ago when he offered up how despicable he thought Trump was and how important it was for Biden to win. 

Unfortunately, my oldest sister whom I've loved and admired my entire life seems to have been brainwashed after being married to an Air Force veteran for almost 40 years. Again, we don't discuss politics but she's dropped a few hints on occasion that make me cringe and fear that they might be more than just GOP, but GQP. We talk weekly but only see one another every few years or so. I'm turning a blind eye to that one because I don't want my worst suspicions to be confirmed.

What is it about the gotdam USAF that breeds fundagelical subgeniuses?  Is it AFA being in Colorado Springs?  Chicken, egg?

Is it something about the nature of combat flying?

It is my sense that naval aviators have less of this tendency and more aligned with the military generally. 

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

What is it about the gotdam USAF that breeds fundagelical subgeniuses?  Is it AFA being in Colorado Springs?  Chicken, egg?

There's nothing in the world like a USAF O5 (Ret.) 

11 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


Esp the crazy two-toned hair chick, with the “SOON” look. You know she gets a #1 ranking.

She looks like the other Lestrange sister. 

2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Um, you kept falling asleep during your own trial Dotard. 

3 hours ago, kevwun said:

My grandpa got his Purple Heart by having his hip broken by shrapnel from artillery.  He had to spend the night in a foxhole with 2 dead buddies until the medics got to him the next day.  So it’s really neat that Trump gave himself one.

Yeah, my cousin has two, one for taking a bullet in the Middle East and one after a training jump went sideways (actually upside down) and he had to cut himself free from a parachute line which had wrapped around his ankle.  He almost lost that foot.  But neither seems as horrific as a nicked ear, possibly by a bullet. /s

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What is it about the gotdam USAF that breeds fundagelical subgeniuses?  Is it AFA being in Colorado Springs?  Chicken, egg?

Is it something about the nature of combat flying?

It is my sense that naval aviators have less of this tendency and more aligned with the military generally. 

That's a damn good question. My sister's husband was an NCO and retired as a 1st Sgt after close to 30 years. He's not vocal about his politics at all and is a fabulous human so I'm still holding out hope for the both of them.

My wife's brother, OTOH, graduated from USAFA and retired as a--say it along w/ me--Lt Col and thinks Rush, Hannity, Trump, et al were put on earth by a divine being. He almost died due to COVID because he wasn't going to be forced by Southwest Airlines to get vaxxed. Again, he generally keeps his thoughts to himself but he definitely contributed to the brain mush poisoning of his parents. His twenty-something daughter and son have helped him  to temper his nutjob opinions some as they've made it clear that they're not following him down that path & if he wants to be part of their lives he needs to make better choices. Damn proud of those youngsters.

16 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

She looks like the other Lestrange sister. 

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8 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Wait! How the fuck does this coward award himself anything?

 

Who's going to stop him?

12 hours ago, TexArcher said:

It's been 8 years of this, and I know I ought to be well beyond the surreal shock phase, by my god, these people, man.  Nothing is off limits.  Nothing is sacred.  No one outside their circle matters.  And they'll do absolutely anything for power and money.

It's all so disgusting and embarrassing.  And people I used to respect have fallen for it.  God dammit.

My husband and I were just talking about this after seeing the video of tfg getting the Purple Heart. I’m so goddamned embarrassed of this fucker, I just can’t with his supporters. As soon as I know they are a supporter I lose all respect for them. I recently found out my nephew is leaning toward voting for him. I wish I didn’t know that. 

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

My husband and I were just talking about this after seeing the video of tfg getting the Purple Heart. I’m so goddamned embarrassed of this fucker, I just can’t with his supporters. As soon as I know they are a supporter I lose all respect for them. I recently found out my nephew is leaning toward voting for him. I wish I didn’t know that. 

I’m so glad my nephew doesn’t turn 18 until November 7 😂

41 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It is my sense that naval aviators have less of this tendency and more aligned with the military generally.

Easily one of my most liberal friends is an ex-Navy pilot

29 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, my cousin has two, one for taking a bullet in the Middle East and one after a training jump went sideways (actually upside down) and he had to cut himself free from a parachute line which had wrapped around his ankle.  He almost lost that foot.  But neither seems as horrific as a nicked ear, possibly by a bullet. /s

My Uncle Donnie, who was a bad ass in the joint Canadian-US First Special Service Force (the Devil’s Brigade was a unit that was trained in Alpine Mountain fighting, and as ski troops, paratroopers and skilled demolition men) was paralyzed from the waist down when shrapnel from a German 88 severed his spine at Enzio.  

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But I don’t think he ever suffered the horror of nicking his ear with his fingernail.   

My husband and I were just talking about this after seeing the video of tfg getting the Purple Heart. I’m so goddamned embarrassed of this fucker, I just can’t with his supporters. As soon as I know they are a supporter I lose all respect for them. I recently found out my nephew is leaning toward voting for him. I wish I didn’t know that. 

He is a man utterly without honor.

Seriously, imagine you were running for office, and some veteran offered you ANY of his decorations/medals. Isn’t the ONLY answer you could give be “I’m honored by your offer, but these belong to men and women like you who earned these in service to our country. You have no respect.”
20 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Who's going to stop him?

Reminds of that dip shit in somestan being cheered while he lifted a 10 pound pipe.

33 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Wait! How the fuck does this coward award himself anything?

 

Sorry. Didn't realize it was an actual veteran turning over his own purple heart to that absolute parasite.

Or was it staged? Who the fuck knows anymore.

46 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

That's a damn good question. My sister's husband was an NCO and retired as a 1st Sgt after close to 30 years. He's not vocal about his politics at all and is a fabulous human so I'm still holding out hope for the both of them.

My wife's brother, OTOH, graduated from USAFA and retired as a--say it along w/ me--Lt Col and thinks Rush, Hannity, Trump, et al were put on earth by a divine being. He almost died due to COVID because he wasn't going to be forced by Southwest Airlines to get vaxxed. Again, he generally keeps his thoughts to himself but he definitely contributed to the brain mush poisoning of his parents. His twenty-something daughter and son have helped him  to temper his nutjob opinions some as they've made it clear that they're not following him down that path & if he wants to be part of their lives he needs to make better choices. Damn proud of those youngsters.

The USAFA was overrun by evangelicals many, many years ago. It was widely reported.

The man I most respected in my life, (five DFCs, and he turned down his Purple Heart because he viewed his injury as a mere nuisance compared to those of his brethren,) graduated from the Naval Academy but served in the Air Force, because, as he told Eisenhower, “the runways are so much longer.”

2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Me too.  I saw the headline, and was about to send it off to my Vietnam Vet father (who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, though to be fair to my dad, he is voting for the R, not the guy behind it (never voted Dem, not even 1963)). I am working on him and my mom to either hold their noses and vote for Kamala (I would put that at a 5% chance) or to stay home (45% chance at the moment).  I do not have a lot of hope, and if they vote for Trump, that will irrevocably damage my relationship with them. For those that think this is a hyperbole, Trump hates women and was totally cool taking away our right to bodily autonomy. It is shocking to me that my dad, who told me growing up that I could be anyone I wanted to be, would vote for a misogynist like Trump, who is totally cool with relegating women to the same place they are in enlightened places like Afghanistan under the Taliban or Saudi Arabia (i.e. as little more than property).

Well to be fair, no one voted D in 1963.

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Around me the shift has been to "it's not the person, it's the policies". Oh, ok. The democrats' policies are so horrific that you just have to vote for a convicted felon who has promised to be a dictator. So horrific these last four years have been.... stock market up, economy improving every year, more jobs, unemployment down, crime down..... Can't risk more of that. Gotta vote for the evil conman. No choice.

I think it’s a good time to remind these “policies not person” people that we don’t live in a direct democracy; we have real people who are elected to represent us. Their character matters more so than a specific policy. Remember, it’s a “republic, not a democracy.”

Nevermind that if your values and policies lead you to this degeneracy, your values and policies are rotten to the core.

2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Me too.  I saw the headline, and was about to send it off to my Vietnam Vet father (who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, though to be fair to my dad, he is voting for the R, not the guy behind it (never voted Dem, not even 1963)). I am working on him and my mom to either hold their noses and vote for Kamala (I would put that at a 5% chance) or to stay home (45% chance at the moment).  I do not have a lot of hope, and if they vote for Trump, that will irrevocably damage my relationship with them. For those that think this is a hyperbole, Trump hates women and was totally cool taking away our right to bodily autonomy. It is shocking to me that my dad, who told me growing up that I could be anyone I wanted to be, would vote for a misogynist like Trump, who is totally cool with relegating women to the same place they are in enlightened places like Afghanistan under the Taliban or Saudi Arabia (i.e. as little more than property).

You CAN be anyone you want to be unless you wanna be equal.

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, my cousin has two, one for taking a bullet in the Middle East and one after a training jump went sideways (actually upside down) and he had to cut himself free from a parachute line which had wrapped around his ankle.  He almost lost that foot.  But neither seems as horrific as a nicked ear, possibly by a bullet. /s

How does one get a Purple Heart for a training jump?

The service member must have suffered a wound or injury as a result of enemy action, a hostile act, an international terrorist attack, or friendly fire. 

Just now, Macanudo said:

How does one get a Purple Heart for a training jump?

The service member must have suffered a wound or injury as a result of enemy action, a hostile act, an international terrorist attack, or friendly fire. 

I have no idea, ask him.

20 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

The USAFA was overrun by evangelicals many, many years ago. It was widely reported.

The man I most respected in my life, (five DFCs, and he turned down his Purple Heart because he viewed his injury as a mere nuisance compared to those of his brethren,) graduated from the Naval Academy but served in the Air Force, because, as he told Eisenhower, “the runways are so much longer.”

Yep, and they aren't pitching and rolling all over the place.

1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

There's nothing in the world like a USAF O5 (Ret.) 

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Son of a USAF 06 (Ret.) ex F-4 aviator here.

Luckily, he's harmless. He fits the Shane Gillis definition of a Fox News dad. Too late to deprive him of that. 

His wife, on the other hand, may have planted the pipe bombs on Jan 6.

17 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I also lived across the street from the firehouse on 30th street for 6 years and they were always super nice and helpful.  

 

I lived at Benchmark Apartments for a couple of years.  Great location except for when they tested the sirens early each morning.

2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

How does one get a Purple Heart for a training jump?

The service member must have suffered a wound or injury as a result of enemy action, a hostile act, an international terrorist attack, or friendly fire. 

By those standards my wife deserves a purple heart for nasal wounds suffered in the great dutch oven offensive of 2021.

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I have no idea, ask him.

He lives in Canada, I wouldn't know him.

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

He lives in Canada, I wouldn't know him.

Just like my super model girlfriend.

Just have to send her $1000 for her flight to get kidney surgery.

2 minutes ago, Goredho said:

By those standards my wife deserves a purple heart for nasal wounds suffered in the great dutch oven offensive of 2021.

Anyone of us who lived through the last few years of Mack Brown's tenure as well.

11 minutes ago, wood said:

Yep, and they aren't pitching and rolling all over the place.

As a PTSD vet of Top Gun on the NES, too soon too soon

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


Pssst….they’re not “putting up with” the shittiness….they actually like it. The “lower taxes” bit is just cover for how shitty they really are.

That’s the thing that’s so hard for all of us to come to grips with: that 47% of our fellow countrymen, including friends and dear family members, are irredeemably awful human beings. We used to look at Nazi Germany and ask how could that happen, and now we know “oh….it happened because of people like my brother/father/mother/friend.”

Yesterday I ran into a black woman who is one of those "Harris wasn't black until it was convenient to be". I knew they existed but I ha never seen one in the wild before. Anyway, she knew of Harris' background and still felt that way. I was dumbfounded. So you are going to vote for a known racist, who wants to be a dictator, because you feel like a person didn't own their blackness well enough from age 30-60? You simply cannot talk to these people. The most illogical people on the planet. Especially Black Trumpers. How many people do you need to see get mauled by wild animals before you back away from the cage?

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My dad had the Purple Heart.   Earned behind the lines on d-day.  Both he and my mom were fervent FDR democrats.  My dad could not believe anyone would vote republican - as they were the enemies of FDR.

4 siblings in our 60’s and up, all proud libs from day one.  Don’t know how that happened.  Luck.

Now, some in the next generation surprise me.  In laws, and what not.

25 minutes ago, immamac said:

I need to figure out how to sell shit to idiots for surly. There seems to be a lot of money in being a fucking idiot. 

I must be too smart then ... 

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29 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

My dad had the Purple Heart.   Earned behind the lines on d-day.  Both he and my mom were fervent FDR democrats.  My dad could not believe anyone would vote republican - as they were the enemies of FDR.

4 siblings in our 60’s and up, all proud libs from day one.  Don’t know how that happened.  Luck.

Now, some in the next generation surprise me.  In laws, and what not.

I disassociated myself from most of my Florida & Tennessee white trash family decades ago. I have little doubt the vast majority that are still kicking are fervent Trumpers. Fuck those motherfuckers.

Ok question about the Purple Heart thing. Context first though - my stepdad was the national commander for the Purple Heart organization for a few years before he passed away. Retired Army Colonel. So while I didn’t serve and certainly don’t have one, I’m somewhat familiar.

Looks like in that video the orange cunt accepted a vets giving over his Purple Heart under the idea that Trump getting shot at while making a speech qualified him. While there are clearly at least a billion things severely wrong with that scenario, I’m not quite following the narrative of Trump “awarding himself” a Purple Heart.

Clearly this is just another example of completely abhorrent and despicable behavior on this jackasses part. But it seems like the “awarded himself” narrative is a little off. What am I missing?

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Today on Facebook I learned from my former real estate agent neighbor in Houston that the reason Hurricane Helena happened is because BlackRock and the Democrats conspired to cloud seed clouds so that the hurricane would wipe out the Republicans before the election and BlackRock would then be able to steal their land full of lithium deposits. 

I’m not kidding. Dead serious. This is the level of intellect we have in the world today. Idiocracy was not a documentary. It portrayed people as too intelligent. 

5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Today on Facebook I learned from my former real estate agent neighbor in Houston that the reason Hurricane Helena happened is because BlackRock and the Democrats conspired to cloud seed clouds so that the hurricane would wipe out the Republicans before the election and BlackRock would then be able to steal their land full of lithium deposits. 

I’m not kidding. Dead serious. This is the level of intellect we have in the world today. Idiocracy was not a documentary. It portrayed people as too intelligent. 

I mean, I do believe there could be a business plan somewhere in BlackRock to pilfer mineral rights from resident landowners 

So here in Austin I saw a Trump bumper sticker above a little American flag sticker.  On the back of a Mercedes SUV, and not on the bumper but on the back.  I needed a “Buy American” sticker to slap underneath those.

Over on 38th Street east of Guadalupe, saw a big red Trump flag flying on a house next to an assisted living facility. They also had a big Longhorn flag on the door.  I can only imagine how much they hate the neighbors in that area. 

Current yard sign tally in my neighborhood has Harris at a two yards to one edge over dotard.  I’ve seen enough and am ready to call TX for Harris.

On 10/4/2024 at 8:30 AM, Thrawn said:

Is there a separate report with the number of black jobs created? I bet it was zero. Or at least that is what I'm sure we will hear from the orange shit stain later today.

200% of the jobs went to illegals

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