The London Bridge Has Fallen - The Legacy of Queen Elizabeth II

[HouTex 1838]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I feel like the Irish, Indians, and Pakistanis may have something to say about that.

I did say "mostly".  But as far as the Indians and Pakistanis, the Brits (mostly my avatar) kept them as peace for decades via British rule.  When the split happened, of course, it was a disaster.  Up to 2 million died.

During one of Churchill's visits to the White House during WWII, at a dinner with the president, Eleanor and one of Eleanor's NY newspaper publisher friends, the friend meant to put Churchill on the spot about the UK's Indian policy.  She, the publisher, asked what Churchill intended to do about those pesky Indians.  Churchill replied "Which ones?  The ones in Asia that have thrived under British rule, or the ones in America that are almost extinct."  She was speechless.

[F250 28379]

22 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

a lot of vitriol from former colonies against the woman who has in the last 30 years or so, realized the mistakes of her country and worked to repair the pain, sufferinging and admitting fault and apologizing, and they want to dance on her grave.

 

In 1979 The IRA killed her favorite Cousin (as well as him being Phillip's Great-uncle and mentor),

Yet on her last trip to Ireland she made multiple symbolic concessions and apologized to the people of Ireland

 

she wasnt perfect and her historical family have a bad, bad reputation for empire building, and the chaos and destruction that goes with that... but she was legitimately trying to mend relations and yet folks want to celebrate her death.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with the Irish but they have a biological imperative to hold a grudge.

[Nicole44 21941]

RIP. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13267]

In term of caring about monarchies, one area to think about is history. Royal leaders is often a way to referring to periods of time. This goes back Egyptian and Roman times, and a fair amount of European royalty.  Japan's emperors and eras share the same name.

I was perusing some of her former titles. In Hong Kong, her former title was Boss Lady but in Cantonese.  She just missed out in being the Empress of India, but she was the monarch of Pakistan for the first few years of her monarchy.

[Wally Fairway 5465]

She's gone

 

[Js1 82355]

And just like that

[HouTex 1838]

The Queen is dead.  Long live the King.

[Nicole44 21941]

Damn. It must have taken all she had to meet with the final PM of her reign. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

2 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

She's gone

 

[F250 28379]

[Saint Tacky 1609]

London Bridge

['stache 21489]

So does the title pass automatically? Weird that there's a King now. Not so charming.

[Fudge Nuggets 18825]

4 minutes ago, HouTex said:

But as far as the Indians and Pakistanis, the Brits (mostly my avatar) kept them as peace for decades via British rule.

The policies of the fat fuck in your avatar caused two million Bengalis to starve to death.  Fuck him.

[LonghornSean 3892]

Damn. What a reign

[The Dog 42744]

1 minute ago, HouTex said:

The Queen is dead.  Long live the King.

[BrazilHorn 6552]

End of an era. Wow.

[Js1 82355]

Just now, 'stache said:

So does the title pass automatically? Weird that there's a King now. Not so charming.

Yes, "The King and Queen Consort" is mentioned in the announcement.

Wow, that is weird to read. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by Js1

[Surly Bevo 24247]

Brisket's flight of flatulence arrives in London and now this....

[BurntOrange&White 38710]

Will the new king try to take over the world?

[AUS-97HORN 11546]

Do we start a new thread wondering what name Charles will use as his official name?  Charles III?  or on of his other 20 names?

[Laxtonto 11764]

So who is left of the grand political figures of our youth?

 

Gorbachev died recently, QE2, Abe, both dead.

['stache 21489]

"Queen Consort" sounds like a prostitute. They seriously can't come up with a better title? 

[Brothahorn 10079]

So does the title pass automatically? Weird that there's a King now. Not so charming.

Do you think there is a tiny sliver of him that is kinda happy? Is he thinking to himself, "about bloody time"?

[LonghornSean 3892]

New PM's third day in office.

[Pato del Muerto 51914]

So is there anyone that assumes the duties of the monarch until charles’ coronation/ascension?

[Deej 76080]

19 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

In all fairness, cherry limeades are fucking delicious.

Especially if you have them poured over a Route 44 cup of soft serve. 

[Poe It Up 126]

23andMe recently told me I’m British, so this hits close to home. RIP

[Js1 82355]

I wonder how long some generic speech has been sitting in a desk at 10 Downing Street, passed down from Gordon Brown to David Cameron to Teresa May to BoJo to Liz Truss. 

[The Dog 42744]

 

[ChickenNuggets 1588]

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11486]

Will there be a literal coronation where chuck puts on a crown?   That’s pretty bad ass. 

[Sbbruin 21567]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Will the new king try to take over the world?

Who him?

 

[Deej 76080]

Charles:

[SimonBolivar 10648]

I welcome the new King of England

 

[Gene Parmesan 3951]

Will prima nocta be back on the table?

[Sbbruin 21567]

Just now, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Will there be a literal coronation where chuck puts on a crown?   That’s pretty bad ass. 

Yes but it won’t be for awhile.  He assumes the title immediately upon the Queen’s death, but the coronation will be some time from now after planning.

[gsoda3 3187]

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I was perusing some of her former titles. In Hong Kong, her former title was Boss Lady but in Cantonese.  

it's funny, the three literal words are "business head old woman".  not the most glamourous title one's heard.  

[Nicole44 21941]

I thought maybe she had died in her sleep last night and they were just gathering everyone together because…Charles taking over. Weird coincidence that Meghan and Harry happened to be across the pond. Most of us havent seen anything like this so it will be interesting

[AUS-97HORN 11546]

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So is there anyone that assumes the duties of the monarch until charles’ coronation/ascension?

its automatic,  however, its not official until the coronation.   Which by tradition  is usually in the Spring/Summertime

[conVINCEd 21468]

Just now, Sbbruin said:

Yes but it won’t be for awhile.  He assumes the title immediately upon the Queen’s death, but the coronation will be some time from now after planning.

Pretty sure the gameplan is done.

[HouTex 1838]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So is there anyone that assumes the duties of the monarch until charles’ coronation/ascension?

I'm pretty sure Charles is now the king.  The coronation is the ceremony.  Edward VIII was king until he abdicated and he was never coronated. 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1283823/Royal-shock-King-Edward-VIII-coronation

"While many people believe someone cannot become King or Queen until their coronation, the process is actually automatic.

King Edward became Edward VIII when his father, King George V, died on January 20, 1936."

[Js1 82355]

3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Who him?

 

The new monarchy

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

He was always a breath away from being King. That breath has ceased. 

[hayden_horn 11311]

damn. 

my dad was stationed in germany during the korean war. he got a furlough and went with a couple of army buds to london to get drunk and have themselves a time.

they get to london, and the city is packed. there's nowhere to stay. turns out they arrived the day before elizabeth's coronation. they stayed in a random family's attic and attended the event.

not so cool story bro, i guess.

[Al_4_ISU 12199]

8 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The policies of the fat fuck in your avatar caused two million Bengalis to starve to death.  Fuck him.

He was also instrumental in stopping Hitler, and one could argue saved more lives than that cost.  Legacies (and people) are complicated.

[Wally Fairway 5465]

1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

I welcome the new King of England

All Hail King Chuck

[SimonBolivar 10648]

With her death, I'm getting a lot of this feeling about the future of the monarchy...

 

[hornbri 1345]

3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Yes but it won’t be for awhile.  He assumes the title immediately upon the Queen’s death, but the coronation will be some time from now after planning.

10 days right?

[MoJames 8230]

RIP Queen Elizabeth, one of the few humans left that remembers the Texas aggy national championship run as she was 13 when it happened.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13267]

7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

"Queen Consort" sounds like a prostitute. They seriously can't come up with a better title? 

They have to deal with the touchy subject that some Brits felt that only Diana should have received the Queen title from marrying Charles. I believe the Royal Family has previously indicated that Camilla would not be named Queen. 

Charles can decide that for himself now.