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while we wait for ramjet to chime in, something to chew on.....

spacex launched 83% of all orbital missions last year

the global market speaks it's mind .....

how does spacex control 83% of the global launch business ???

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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i only really started hating musk a couple of years ago but tolerated him for what he was doing to, yes, i will repeat it, make humanity a multi-planetary species

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4 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

while we wait for ramjet to chime in, something to chew on.....

spacex launched 83% of all orbital missions last year

the global market speaks it's mind .....

how does spacex control 83% of the global launch business ???

Go ask your SpaceX questions in the SpaceX thread.

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41 minutes ago, linux said:

Of course venture capital is not cool with throwing away money, that is why it is a failure in the long run.

Musk promised dreams of ultra cheap launches so much so that they conned space dreamers (like me, but I never fell for it), had he promised REAILITY aka just marginally cheaper launches than what the Soviets were doing in the 80s his cult would not be where it is today.

China is building maglev launch systems, venture capital failed Spin Launch which has pivoted to rockets, to get the morsels to survive 

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3303761/china-bid-challenge-giant-spacex-deploying-maglev-rocket-launch-pad-2028

Yeah if the species goes multiplanetary it will be Musk preventing it from happening more than thanks to him. Launch assisted should have been the only priority even before the Apollo project which in itself was a dead end.

I already explained above.

I'm very skeptical of the launch costs you cite. But beyond that, you're just ignoring purchasing power parity that would be driving lower costs for Russia/Soviet Union. Further, marginally lower costs wouldn't have completely disrupted the launch market. 

As to China, they are also heavily invested in replicating SpaceX's success with reusable rockets.  They have multiple projects going on simultaneously to do that, including some recent tests that were very similar to SpaceX's hopper.

Electromagnetic launching would be interesting and something that has been discussed for decades. As the Navy's recent attempt at fielding rail guns has demonstrated, they are a lot more difficult and expensive than expected. There is basically a 0% chance that entity successfully introduced a launcher in 2028. I'm confident that the cost required to get a rocket to supersonic speeds via electromagnetic acceleration would greatly exceed fuel costs, which are a small fraction of a rocket launch costs. Fuel costs for a Falcon 9 launch are on the order of a few hundred thousand dollars vs a launch price (not cost) of around $70 million. Spending billions upon billions in an attempt to save a portion of those fuel costs isn't great math. And then you'll also have to deal with hoping the rocket actually fires after being accelerated as apparently the plan for that entity is to assist the rocket rather than outright send something to to orbit entirely with electromagnetic acceleration. 

33 minutes ago, elfenix said:

 

 

can y'all take this to the spacex thread or the main elon thread? this thread is for elon and trump catfight

Fair, fair. 

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Good point, not the thread for it.
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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Elmo is going to say his account was hacked and he never posted shit. 

That’s fine, we can shit on him for the security at his companies then.

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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Alpha move. 

Its fascinating to me that these two dickslaps are constantly fellated as being such alpha males by the magtards, when they are two of the biggest pussies on the planet. 

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3 minutes ago, RamjetFDO said:

(filled with blind tribalism on all sides - the title of this post is sufficient proof)

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Elmo is going to say his account was hacked and he never posted shit. 

He is going to go to my college excuse “I was high as fuck and don’t remember what happened. Sorry!”
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52 minutes ago, RamjetFDO said:

Probably my only response in this forum (filled with blind tribalism on all sides

This guy posts here as “Anastasis.”

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1 hour ago, RamjetFDO said:

Probably my only response in this forum (filled with blind tribalism on all sides - the title of this post is sufficient proof).  I

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being blind does not mean you can’t find currency in the thread title.

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7 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Oh the one that everyone has known about for a decade and didn’t make one damn but of difference?  Neat

We say that, but my high school teacher who voted for Trump 3X and shares Republican agitprop on Facebook daily just saw it for the first time yesterday and seems genuinely troubled by it, after having spent the last 8 years talking about Clinton and Epstein. 

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1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:


He is going to go to my college excuse “I was high as fuck and don’t remember what happened. Sorry!”

If the Tesla board wasn’t a sham, they should demand that he check himself into rehab and go on an apology tour. That won’t happen, of course, because the board has zero independence.

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4 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

while we wait for ramjet to chime in, something to chew on.....

spacex launched 83% of all orbital missions last year

the global market speaks it's mind .....

how does spacex control 83% of the global launch business ???

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21 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Yeah, ok I should have known.

It looked like for a second something good was happening.

Musk was most assuredly high when binge posting. One of the few things Trump is not lying about.

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BREAKING: Trump Threatens Elon Musk Again - “He’ll Have to Pay the Consequences”

https://krassencast.com/p/breaking-trump-threatens-elon-musk?utm_source=substack&publication_id=1458862&post_id=165424362&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=3agz2m&triedRedirect=true

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Let’s not dance around it—Donald Trump just issued a threat. Not to a foreign adversary. Not to a criminal defendant. But to Elon Musk.

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Yes, that Elon Musk—the richest man on Earth, the owner of X, and someone Trump once courted like a prom date. Now? He’s in Trump’s crosshairs.

In a stunning statement, Trump said:

“If he [funds Democrats], he’ll have to pay the consequences for that. He’ll have to pay very serious consequences if he does that.”

Let’s pause right there.

Trump is threatening a private citizen for exercising a constitutional right: donating to the political party of his choice.

This isn’t a slip of the tongue. This isn’t Trump being Trump. This is authoritarianism out loud.

The President vs. the Presidency

Trump wasn’t done. He continued by painting Musk as some kind of national traitor, saying:

“He’s disrespectful to the office of the President. I think it’s a very bad thing, because he’s very disrespectful. You could not disrespect the office of the President.”

And here’s where it crosses into the surreal.

Because the only person actually disrespecting the office of the President... is Donald Trump himself.

This is the same man who called for jailing his political enemies. Who referred to members of Congress as “vermin.” Who refused to concede a fair election. Who incited an insurrection. Who’s currently facing nearly a hundred felony charges across multiple jurisdictions.

But Elon Musk funding Democrats? That’s the line-crossing disrespect?

A Warning We Shouldn’t Ignore

Trump isn’t just talking to Musk. He’s sending a message to every donor, every CEO, every citizen who dares to support his opposition: “You’ll pay for it.”

That’s not politics. That’s not leadership.

That’s a threat.

And no amount of gold-plated hotels, angry speeches, or Truth Social meltdowns can disguise it.

 



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