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You should have stayed there and pissed all over the place.   

Goddammit. Next time I’m here, I’m 1) going to hit an all-you-can-eat chili and chicken wings buffet, and then 2) saunter into that place, get seated at the DJT restaurant, 3) get up, and head to the men’s room to destroy their shitter, and then 4) walk out humming The Battle Hymn of The Republic.
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This is a pretty good analysis of Trump's popularity.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/2/24/24080974/south-carolina-gop-primary-results-2024-trump-haley-trumpism

 

"Trump’s celebrity charisma alone isn’t enough of an explanation. Otherwise, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would bestride the GOP like a colossus. Nor is Trump’s fawning coverage in the conservative media. Fox News has repeatedly tried to turn the Republican base away from Trump and toward figures like DeSantis, only to have to kiss the ring when the voters didn’t follow their lead.

The answer, at least as far as I can tell, is that Trump’s cult is the product of his unique ability to channel the cultural grievances at the heart of the current Republican party.

Again and again, social scientists found that the best predictor of Trump support among Republican voters is the degree to which they feel discomfort with the changing nature of American demographics and social norms. Trump has sold himself as the only person capable of fighting back against the alleged elite conspiracy behind these changes, saying things like “I alone can fix it” and “I am your retribution.” From these building blocks, he has created a full-scale political movement dedicated to reconquering America.

Trump’s appeal isn’t premised on delivering concrete policy goals, nor even “owning the libs” with high-profile stunts. It is about assuaging the sense of fear and resentment at their America being replaced: about achieving victories that assuage the sense of psychological assault created by things like mass immigration, a Black president, shifting gender roles, and a beloved beer brand cutting an ad with a trans influencer. Donald Trump, as a figure, represents the America they know and love. His victories are their victories, his defeats their defeats."


 

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19 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Donald Trump, as a figure, represents the America they know and love. His victories are their victories, his defeats their defeats."

His $130,00 hush money payments to porn stars are their $130,000 hush money payments to porn stars. 

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It’s all of the above and it’s the propaganda.  20 years of Rush, Fox News, and Alex Jones coupled with a vapid materialistic society that worships wealth and domination over the content of someone’s character.  Trump checks all the boxes plus he’s genuinely ignorant and uneducated which effectively resonates with the like minded.  

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

This is a pretty good analysis of Trump's popularity.

https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/2/24/24080974/south-carolina-gop-primary-results-2024-trump-haley-trumpism

 

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"Trump’s celebrity charisma alone isn’t enough of an explanation. Otherwise, former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would bestride the GOP like a colossus. Nor is Trump’s fawning coverage in the conservative media. Fox News has repeatedly tried to turn the Republican base away from Trump and toward figures like DeSantis, only to have to kiss the ring when the voters didn’t follow their lead.

The answer, at least as far as I can tell, is that Trump’s cult is the product of his unique ability to channel the cultural grievances at the heart of the current Republican party.

Again and again, social scientists found that the best predictor of Trump support among Republican voters is the degree to which they feel discomfort with the changing nature of American demographics and social norms. Trump has sold himself as the only person capable of fighting back against the alleged elite conspiracy behind these changes, saying things like “I alone can fix it” and “I am your retribution.” From these building blocks, he has created a full-scale political movement dedicated to reconquering America.

Trump’s appeal isn’t premised on delivering concrete policy goals, nor even “owning the libs” with high-profile stunts. It is about assuaging the sense of fear and resentment at their America being replaced: about achieving victories that assuage the sense of psychological assault created by things like mass immigration, a Black president, shifting gender roles, and a beloved beer brand cutting an ad with a trans influencer. Donald Trump, as a figure, represents the America they know and love. His victories are their victories, his defeats their defeats."


 

Thanks for posting something credible, but i think it's old political analysis. It's also blatantly obvious to those paying attention. Trump already captured the whole thing in his slogan. 

I take issue with Donald Trump, as a figure, represents the America they know and love. Applying notions of knowledge and love to Trump cultists is the height of lazy absurdity. In now world did any version of America known and loved allied with Russia since the end of WW2. No version known and loved shamelessly oppressed non white males as an open policy in the adult lifetimes of almost all Americans. The America of that period constantly congratulated itself for tossing crumbs from white hands to hands of color.

It's pure hate that sustains the cult. Hate of an illusory enemy. The cult won't break up if the current leader dies. There are still plenty of Moonies fucking things up all over the world.

@Neonmoon found the better analysis. I stopped reading after about 20 traits because it was clearly going to be apt through and through. And depressing.

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s all of the above and it’s the propaganda.  20 years of Rush, Fox News, and Alex Jones coupled with a vapid materialistic society that worships wealth and domination over the content of someone’s character.  Trump checks all the boxes plus he’s genuinely ignorant and uneducated which effectively resonates with the like minded.  

That Ted Koppel video of him with Sean Hannity is really on point for me. Something like --  "You are very good at what you do, which is make people care about ideology instead of facts."  20 years of that and no one cares if someone is hurt, or defrauded, dictatorial, is treasonous. Can I fit some act into my dozen boxes of "Things That My Ideology Likes"?  If so, then it is good.

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15 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

It's pure hate that sustains the cult. Hate of an illusory enemy.

This is the part that kills me the most.  It's not that we disagree on policy or ideas of how to build a society.  It's that they don't accept the same reality.  There is no way to fight that.

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24 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is the part that kills me the most.  It's not that we disagree on policy or ideas of how to build a society.  It's that they don't accept the same reality.  There is no way to fight that.

There is, but it involves raining terror and horror on them and their version of reality until the primal human desire to survive kicks in and forces them to choose a new reality, and I don't think we are going there just yet so for now it's all loss mitigation.  

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s all of the above and it’s the propaganda.  20 years of Rush, Fox News, and Alex Jones coupled with a vapid materialistic society that worships wealth and domination over the content of someone’s character.  Trump checks all the boxes plus he’s genuinely ignorant and uneducated which effectively resonates with the like minded.  

Also racism--lots and lots of racism.  Remember, their rights are infringed when Black, Muslims and Latino are given equal rights.   

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40 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

lot of easy-steppin' words in this sentence to dice it down.

Most Americans errantly perceived the lives of Blacks as far better than they actually were. Thus, self-congratulaion and "well, we're done!"  It's the word shameless bearing the weight. The rest of us white people, I think, feel at least some minute particle of shame even if we don't do enough.

But you're right.

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24 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Also racism--lots and lots of racism.  Remember, their rights are infringed when Black, Muslims and Latino are given equal rights.   

Right and that racism is exploited and cultivated through cleverly framed propaganda. Lee Atwater out front and all…

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25 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

"I came here to cheer on the compassionless eating of other people's faces, and now you eat my foreign-accented face and that of my special needs son !?!" 

 

 

 

Leopards eating well. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Thanks for posting something credible, but i think it's old political analysis. It's also blatantly obvious to those paying attention. Trump already captured the whole thing in his slogan. 

Just be glad he posted a link. 

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So a 300 pound, walking headcheese claimed street-cred to a room full of black people because he's been indicted multiple times and they told the headcheese they loved it.  But we don't live inside a computer simulation?  

Look, I'm Hispanic.  I don't like it when I get lumped in as some political monolith with Cubans and South Americans and the damn Portuguese.  I get there are conservative Black voters, it's cool I have a Black republican friend ;) 

But to sit there and hear him talk that way, how in the fucking fuck?  I get he gets Black votes, just the way politics are.  Totally understandable.  I get that they'd donate and even to show up to his SC event.  But to cheer more and more loudly the more and more offensive he speaks.  Da fuh?  I mean, I get it with redneck white people, but this is out and out insulting and he's not even being coy about it.  /judgeyrant

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1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

So a 300 pound, walking headcheese claimed street-cred to a room full of black people because he's been indicted multiple times and they told the headcheese they loved it.  But we don't live inside a computer simulation?  

Look, I'm Hispanic.  I don't like it when I get lumped in as some political monolith with Cubans and South Americans and the damn Portuguese.  I get there are conservative Black voters, it's cool I have a Black republican friend ;) 

But to sit there and hear him talk that way, how in the fucking fuck?  I get he gets Black votes, just the way politics are.  Totally understandable.  I get that they'd donate and even to show up to his SC event.  But to cheer more and more loudly the more and more offensive he speaks.  Da fuh?  I mean, I get it with redneck white people, but this is out and out insulting and he's not even being coy about it.  /judgeyrant

Solid take. And I should point out that there were probably more white people in attendance at the BBC than there were black people.

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Every citizen who graduates middle school should be able to articulate what that man is saying about tyranny and democracy. Not knowing those basic points which are not hard to grasp is part of our problem. 

You have to put a little effort into it. We don't like effort or education in this country much. We like stuff we don't need and constant self-congratulation.

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13 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Every citizen who graduates middle school should be able to articulate what that man is saying about tyranny and democracy. Not knowing those basic points which are not hard to grasp is part of our problem. 

You have to put a little effort into it. We don't like effort or education in this country much. We like stuff we don't need and constant self-congratulation.

What's funny is that Russia is still a totalitarian state, which is why communism has a bad rap; all the commie countries are dictatorships. 

But it's OK to be totalitarian as long as you aren't commies. 

Whatever. 

 

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LOL.  Trump being sued by the co-founders of Truth Social:

 

The co-founders of former president Donald Trump’s media company filed a lawsuit Wednesday, claiming that Trump and other leaders had schemed to deprive them of a stake in the company that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The case could complicate a long-delayed bid by Trump Media & Technology Group, owner of the social network Truth Social, to merge with a special purpose acquisition company called Digital World Acquisition and become a publicly traded company.
 
That merger deal, which could value Trump’s stake in the company at more than $3 billion, would offer the former president a financial lifeline at a time when he is facing more than $454 million in penalties from a civil fraud judgment this month in New York.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/29/truth-social-lawsuit-trump-media-founders/

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43 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

LOL.  Trump being sued by the co-founders of Truth Social:

 

The co-founders of former president Donald Trump’s media company filed a lawsuit Wednesday, claiming that Trump and other leaders had schemed to deprive them of a stake in the company that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The case could complicate a long-delayed bid by Trump Media & Technology Group, owner of the social network Truth Social, to merge with a special purpose acquisition company called Digital World Acquisition and become a publicly traded company.
 
That merger deal, which could value Trump’s stake in the company at more than $3 billion, would offer the former president a financial lifeline at a time when he is facing more than $454 million in penalties from a civil fraud judgment this month in New York.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/29/truth-social-lawsuit-trump-media-founders/

How dafuq is his stake worth $3 bil?

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11 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

How dafuq is his stake worth $3 bil?

Could is an important word there.  I could fuck Margot Robbie this weekend.  There is a non-zero chance of it happening, as we are both alive and I could procure a cheap Spirit plane ticket to LA, hang out at a few Hollywood hotspots, and shoot my shot if I happened to find myself within 500 feet of her.  But probably not.

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2 hours ago, Born to Run said:
2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:
How dafuq is his stake worth $3 bil?

He gets by the Truths he post.

Paid by the capital letters in the tweets er truths

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14 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

LOL.  Trump being sued by the co-founders of Truth Social:

 

The co-founders of former president Donald Trump’s media company filed a lawsuit Wednesday, claiming that Trump and other leaders had schemed to deprive them of a stake in the company that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The case could complicate a long-delayed bid by Trump Media & Technology Group, owner of the social network Truth Social, to merge with a special purpose acquisition company called Digital World Acquisition and become a publicly traded company.
 
That merger deal, which could value Trump’s stake in the company at more than $3 billion, would offer the former president a financial lifeline at a time when he is facing more than $454 million in penalties from a civil fraud judgment this month in New York.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/29/truth-social-lawsuit-trump-media-founders/

What’s Devin Nunes’ stake in all of this?

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