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9 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

trumpkins everywhere

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Wouldn't that assume at least something close to awareness? so.....nah

 

 

9 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

I was expecting  the release of his new penis enlargement device called "The Trump Pump". Comes with a mold of Ivanka's mouth as an attachment.

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Wait.  These aren’t on the blockchain?   Are you serious??  I was at least going to give him credit for creating a commodity that could be traded up among the idiots and each trade would kick back some to him via smart contracts.  I also presumed he’d use the blockchain so they could launder money and back door campaign contributions to him. Holy shit.  It’s like he asked Elon “What would my Maga idiot followers fall for?”  “Sell them a jpeg and call it an NFT.  Sell them for $100 a pop.”  “No. $99. Then they think they are getting a deal.”

I go back and forth on whether Trump is trolling and self aware.  This one has me leaning toward yes.  

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More on this NFT shit

 

https://threats.substack.com/p/trumps-trading-card-grift-is-worse?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf

 

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When Trump posted his “big announcement” that he was selling his own NFT trading cards, the whole world burst out laughing. Members of the MAGA cult had thought he was going to declare his candidacy for Speaker of the House or maybe reveal the identity of his Vice-Presidential selection in his third run for the White House. QAnon cultists felt sure he was going to identify members of the Deep State, or the arrest and execution of Democrats, or that the military had installed him as President.

Nope. Trading cards.

 

 

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Funny, yes. But it is far, far worse than you think. And to understand why, we have to begin tracing the web of corporations involved in producing these worthless digital cards. They lead to some sleazy places, including some that make clear Trump is making sure no one can seize his money without piercing bank secrecy laws overseas.

 

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Trump himself is not producing the cards, any more than he has developed any real estate projects since 2010. Instead, he has reached a licensing agreement with a company called NFT International LLC. All his licensing agreements, dating back decades (Real estate, Trump Steaks, Trump University etc.) have all had the same terms: The licensor pays Trump a bunch of cash up front, then he gets a share of the revenue produced by whatever the grifty product is. That number has ranged from 10% to 50%, and there is no reason to expect that this time it is any less - in fact, it is almost certainly more.

So, let’s begin delving into the shady world of NFT International. Start with the simple part: NFT International is licensing Trump’s name and likeness from a company called CIC Digital LLC, a limited liability corporation formed just nine months ago and registered in Delaware. Many corporate entities and partnerships form in Delaware because the state offers unique legal protections that are not as well established in other states: Primarily, privacy is protected. Any business entity filed in Delaware does not have to disclose its officers and directors to the public or the state, which allows for complete anonymity. Even better for Trump, the state allows for a slimmed down corporate structure, where just one person to hold the role of officer, director, and shareholder. Trump has hundreds of LLC’s that were revealed in his financial disclosure when he ran for president, almost all of them created in Delaware and with him as the sole officer, director, and shareholder. If he has created CIC using his standard practice, that means Trump is completely in control of the partnership. This also creates a legal protection for Trump and his companies, because as a partnership, no one filing suit can “pierce the corporate veil” as the term goes, and reach Trump’s pockets or that of his company, the Trump Corporation.

The registered agent for CIC - the entity that registered the partnership with the state - is also hidden from view. It is called “National Registered Agents, Inc.” and its ownership is also undisclosed. However, it has registered and incorporated many business entities, including an Austrian aerial camera company, an Arizona computer security business, a dental partnership, a real estate partnership and scores more.

But the fun really starts with unraveling NFT International. It is spread out all over the place. Anyone who purchases one of the Trump Trading Cards (and perhaps feels like they have been scammed - which they have) would obviously reach out to NFT International through its contact listing on the Collecttrumpcards.com website. The address they will receive is 6300 Sagewood Drive, Suite 427, Park City, UT. But that's not where NFT International really is. In fact, there are no offices there. Rather, the address provided to purchasers as the contact site for NFT International is a mailbox at a UPS Store in a strip mall. A nice strip mall, but a strip mall, nonetheless.

 

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So where is NFT International? Not even close to Park City. Instead, according to its partnership registered (in Delaware of course), it is registered 480 miles away in Cheyenne, Wyoming, at the address 1712 Pioneer Avenue.

When I saw the Pioneer Avenue address, my mouth dropped. I know that address. I have seen it before. It is connected to some of the sleaziest entities to be found in this country, including international criminals.

NFT International was set up by Wyoming Corporate Services, a company that registers shell companies. Wyoming Corporate says it acts legally but has no idea who is running the secret entities that it registers. “We recognize that business entities (whether aged, shell or traditional) may be used for both good and ill,” the owner of Wyoming Corporate Services, Gerald Pitts wrote in an email to Reuters in 2011.

 

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Oh, but it gets worse. So much worse. The final address of NFT International - along with scores of other companies - is 2710 Thomes Avenue, Cheyenne, Wyoming. And here it is.

 

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Among the many companies based at 2710 Thomes Avenue and registered by through Wyoming Corporate Services at this tiny brick house are forty established by Pitts in which he is listed as a director, president, or principal. Those companies have been named as defendants in more than a dozen civil lawsuits charging that they had failed to pay taxes and engaged in both securities fraud and trademark infringement.

The companies registered by Wyoming Corporate at 1712 Pioneer, ending up with the final address at 2710 Thomes Avenue, includes a number operated by a rogue’s gallery of criminals. They have included a New Jersey company (strangely called New York Machinery) that sold military car and tractor trailer parts to the Defense Department. While NYM contracted to and confirmed it had sold the military parts conforming with Pentagon specifications, it didn’t. Instead, in more than three dozen military contracts, according to court documents, it provided parts produced by a Turkish company owned by Hace Galip Dedekarginoglu - also the owner of NYM.

The scheme cost the military about $160,000, which Dedekarginoglu agreed to repay in addition to other fines. He also agreed to a $200,000 fine to avoid a civil lawsuit. Meanwhile, another principal in NYM, pleaded guilty to wire fraud based on another tactic in the NYM scam. Through Kan, NYM bought parts from preferred Department of Defense contractors and then sent them to Turkey so they could be reproduced more cheaply.

Another man of sparkling character connected to the address of NFT International is former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, who was once ranked the eighth-most corrupt official in the world by watchdog group Transparency International. In 2004, he was sentenced to eight years in prison in California for money-laundering and extortion, a scam that used shell companies and offshore bank accounts to hide stolen Ukrainian government funds.

Another man linked to 2710 Thomes is Ira N. Rubin - just one more con artist. In 2006, the Federal Trade Commission went to federal court in Tampa, Florida and sued Rubin for fraud. According to the lawsuit, Rubin used at least 18 different front companies to hide his role as a credit-card processor for telemarketing scams. That business, the lawsuit charged, offered subprime credit cards that required an upfront fee debited from customers’ bank accounts, but the cards were never delivered.

Now, none of this means that NFT International is crooked. But think about it - Trump is the former President of the United States. He has already pocketed a bunch of cash from an entity that somehow chose to do business with an entity connected to international fraud and scams. You would think that Trump, supposed billionaire and onetime leader of the free world, would have enough ability to conduct a little due diligence on the companies he does business with, or at least would make sure he avoided dealing with one that travels through so many scummy trails.

Wait. We know Trump. He is the grifters of all grifters. There is no reason to think he would have done anything differently than he has.

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Wait.  These aren’t on the blockchain?   Are you serious??  I was at least going to give him credit for creating a commodity that could be traded up among the idiots and each trade would kick back some to him via smart contracts.  I also presumed he’d use the blockchain so they could launder money and back door campaign contributions to him. Holy shit.  It’s like he asked Elon “What would my Maga idiot followers fall for?”  “Sell them a jpeg and call it an NFT.  Sell them for $100 a pop.”  “No. $99. Then they think they are getting a deal.”

I go back and forth on whether Trump is trolling and self aware.  This one has me leaning toward yes.  

he did nft's like someone who doesn't understand how nft's work would do them.

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4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

he did nft's like someone who doesn't understand how nft's work would do them.

So much left on the table. I mean, if you are going to drift, grift right.  Perhaps the incremental costs of programming them to blockchain were just too much. Curious how they plan to limit them and uniquely identify them. 

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3 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

This makes no sense.  He’s grifted 100s of millions dollars and he’s broke? 
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He is broke. He has been broke for a long time and he will stay broke. Once again the guys asking for money on the subway here have greater cash flow than he does. Russia may be getting their backside handed to them by some brave Ukrainian farmers, but the people he owes money to in Russia are still there looking to collect and they won’t take no for an answer.

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5 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

This makes no sense.  He’s grifted 100s of millions dollars and he’s broke? 
not buying it 

With his entourage, plane, Mar-a-Lago, the few attorneys he actually pays, etc.  I can easily see him having pissed much of it away.  

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8 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I go back and forth on whether Trump is trolling and self aware.  This one has me leaning toward yes.  

How anyone can still make that mistake is beyond me. The man doesn’t know how to use a computer. Some other shady huckster pitched him an idea he doesn’t understand but it will make him money and flatter his massive ego by making him look like Superman. He doesn’t understand it at all. He doesn’t understand much. Remember, this is the same guy who thought that since disinfectants kill the coronavirus on countertops and doorknobs, maybe injecting them into our bodies would be an effective way to prevent infection. He’s a moron. It doesn’t take genius to be a grifter. 

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8 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

More on this NFT shit

 

https://threats.substack.com/p/trumps-trading-card-grift-is-worse?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf

 

 

 

 

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Trump himself is not producing the cards, any more than he has developed any real estate projects since 2010. Instead, he has reached a licensing agreement with a company called NFT International LLC. All his licensing agreements, dating back decades (Real estate, Trump Steaks, Trump University etc.) have all had the same terms: The licensor pays Trump a bunch of cash up front, then he gets a share of the revenue produced by whatever the grifty product is. That number has ranged from 10% to 50%, and there is no reason to expect that this time it is any less - in fact, it is almost certainly more.

So, let’s begin delving into the shady world of NFT International. Start with the simple part: NFT International is licensing Trump’s name and likeness from a company called CIC Digital LLC, a limited liability corporation formed just nine months ago and registered in Delaware. Many corporate entities and partnerships form in Delaware because the state offers unique legal protections that are not as well established in other states: Primarily, privacy is protected. Any business entity filed in Delaware does not have to disclose its officers and directors to the public or the state, which allows for complete anonymity. Even better for Trump, the state allows for a slimmed down corporate structure, where just one person to hold the role of officer, director, and shareholder. Trump has hundreds of LLC’s that were revealed in his financial disclosure when he ran for president, almost all of them created in Delaware and with him as the sole officer, director, and shareholder. If he has created CIC using his standard practice, that means Trump is completely in control of the partnership. This also creates a legal protection for Trump and his companies, because as a partnership, no one filing suit can “pierce the corporate veil” as the term goes, and reach Trump’s pockets or that of his company, the Trump Corporation.

The registered agent for CIC - the entity that registered the partnership with the state - is also hidden from view. It is called “National Registered Agents, Inc.” and its ownership is also undisclosed. However, it has registered and incorporated many business entities, including an Austrian aerial camera company, an Arizona computer security business, a dental partnership, a real estate partnership and scores more.

But the fun really starts with unraveling NFT International. It is spread out all over the place. Anyone who purchases one of the Trump Trading Cards (and perhaps feels like they have been scammed - which they have) would obviously reach out to NFT International through its contact listing on the Collecttrumpcards.com website. The address they will receive is 6300 Sagewood Drive, Suite 427, Park City, UT. But that's not where NFT International really is. In fact, there are no offices there. Rather, the address provided to purchasers as the contact site for NFT International is a mailbox at a UPS Store in a strip mall. A nice strip mall, but a strip mall, nonetheless.

 

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So where is NFT International? Not even close to Park City. Instead, according to its partnership registered (in Delaware of course), it is registered 480 miles away in Cheyenne, Wyoming, at the address 1712 Pioneer Avenue.

When I saw the Pioneer Avenue address, my mouth dropped. I know that address. I have seen it before. It is connected to some of the sleaziest entities to be found in this country, including international criminals.

NFT International was set up by Wyoming Corporate Services, a company that registers shell companies. Wyoming Corporate says it acts legally but has no idea who is running the secret entities that it registers. “We recognize that business entities (whether aged, shell or traditional) may be used for both good and ill,” the owner of Wyoming Corporate Services, Gerald Pitts wrote in an email to Reuters in 2011.

 

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Oh, but it gets worse. So much worse. The final address of NFT International - along with scores of other companies - is 2710 Thomes Avenue, Cheyenne, Wyoming. And here it is.

 

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Among the many companies based at 2710 Thomes Avenue and registered by through Wyoming Corporate Services at this tiny brick house are forty established by Pitts in which he is listed as a director, president, or principal. Those companies have been named as defendants in more than a dozen civil lawsuits charging that they had failed to pay taxes and engaged in both securities fraud and trademark infringement.

The companies registered by Wyoming Corporate at 1712 Pioneer, ending up with the final address at 2710 Thomes Avenue, includes a number operated by a rogue’s gallery of criminals. They have included a New Jersey company (strangely called New York Machinery) that sold military car and tractor trailer parts to the Defense Department. While NYM contracted to and confirmed it had sold the military parts conforming with Pentagon specifications, it didn’t. Instead, in more than three dozen military contracts, according to court documents, it provided parts produced by a Turkish company owned by Hace Galip Dedekarginoglu - also the owner of NYM.

The scheme cost the military about $160,000, which Dedekarginoglu agreed to repay in addition to other fines. He also agreed to a $200,000 fine to avoid a civil lawsuit. Meanwhile, another principal in NYM, pleaded guilty to wire fraud based on another tactic in the NYM scam. Through Kan, NYM bought parts from preferred Department of Defense contractors and then sent them to Turkey so they could be reproduced more cheaply.

Another man of sparkling character connected to the address of NFT International is former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, who was once ranked the eighth-most corrupt official in the world by watchdog group Transparency International. In 2004, he was sentenced to eight years in prison in California for money-laundering and extortion, a scam that used shell companies and offshore bank accounts to hide stolen Ukrainian government funds.

Another man linked to 2710 Thomes is Ira N. Rubin - just one more con artist. In 2006, the Federal Trade Commission went to federal court in Tampa, Florida and sued Rubin for fraud. According to the lawsuit, Rubin used at least 18 different front companies to hide his role as a credit-card processor for telemarketing scams. That business, the lawsuit charged, offered subprime credit cards that required an upfront fee debited from customers’ bank accounts, but the cards were never delivered.

Now, none of this means that NFT International is crooked. But think about it - Trump is the former President of the United States. He has already pocketed a bunch of cash from an entity that somehow chose to do business with an entity connected to international fraud and scams. You would think that Trump, supposed billionaire and onetime leader of the free world, would have enough ability to conduct a little due diligence on the companies he does business with, or at least would make sure he avoided dealing with one that travels through so many scummy trails.

Wait. We know Trump. He is the grifters of all grifters. There is no reason to think he would have done anything differently than he has.

 

 

 

While I admire the work that went into this, it’s just a bit superfluous. When he announced NFTs, you didn’t need to specify that they’d be half-assed even for NFTs and linked to some con artist paper company. All that shit is just part of it, you know it’s going to be that way, it can’t be otherwise. 

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I learned on Colbert last night that you don’t get to choose which trading card you’re purchasing. They’re selected at random. So I guess that could create a situation where you would be in a position to trade them with others. Clever solution to that little problem.

I’m not going to go to the website to review the fine print personally. I trust Colbert’s staff to have gotten it right.

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59 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I learned on Colbert last night that you don’t get to choose which trading card you’re purchasing. They’re selected at random. So I guess that could create a situation where you would be in a position to trade them with others. Clever solution to that little problem.

I’m not going to go to the website to review the fine print personally. I trust Colbert’s staff to have gotten it right.

They shared these:

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I would not be surprised that one card needed to complete a set will be available at the highest possible price for the idiot trump fan who has to have it.

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Trump was broke before he became President. Look at his tax returns. That's why he needed his job on the Apprentice. 

After winning election, he stuffed his pockets for four years (that's why he went golfing so often). If he's still broke after four years as President, then he's a worse businessman than any of us could have imagined.

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he's not doing this because he's broke.  he's doing this because he can.  he took hundreds of millions of dollars from his rubes over the last 6 years.  everything he is a part of is cordoned off in single asset LLCs.  any account that starts running in the red is just allowed to fail in that LLC and it touches nothing else.  

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3 hours ago, AnTiM said:

The best news is that the people who used to enjoy bragging on trump to my face now have all STFU.

Same with the Elon fanbois.

In the span of 24 hours, we saw Trump hawking shitty NFTs (is there any other kind) like some 1990s late-night infomercial huckster, and we saw Elon Musk publicly melting down and making up new rules to ban people he didn’t like.

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I learned on Colbert last night that you don’t get to choose which trading card you’re purchasing. They’re selected at random. So I guess that could create a situation where you would be in a position to trade them with others. Clever solution to that little problem.

I’m not going to go to the website to review the fine print personally. I trust Colbert’s staff to have gotten it right.

They shared these:

 

 

Typically, this is how NFTs work during a mint.  It's supposed to randomly generated and there is a baked in/manufactured  'scarcity' on how the traits are generated.  So kindof like a lottery and only a few get the 'rare' ones.  Rare traits can generally be sold on the secondary market for higher prices.

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1 minute ago, gyroprotagonist said:

Typically, this is how NFTs work during a mint.  It's supposed to randomly generated and there is a baked in/manufactured  'scarcity' on how the traits are generated.  So kindof like a lottery and only a few get the 'rare' ones.  Rare traits can generally be sold on the secondary market for higher prices.

TL:DR - it's just a gacha box for nerds with too much money

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12 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

So much left on the table. I mean, if you are going to drift, grift right.  Perhaps the incremental costs of programming them to blockchain were just too much. Curious how they plan to limit them and uniquely identify them. 

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This technological wizardry confounds MAGA 

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Soooo...

Let's say I collect the complete set of these Trump jpg's (not legally purchasing them, mind you....just from here, there and yonder) and I start to post them on Truth.  Will I get banned for sharing the pictures for free? Or will I get adored and saluted for having the complete set?

 

 

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they embarrassing quality of these things is surprising.  they expect to make millions off this and they can't even get a decent photoshop.  they just scour the web for generic costumes.  the trump head isn't ever positioned in a realistic way on the body.  they don't do blockchain.  it all feels like picking up plastic crap in chinatown.

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4 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Well, yeah. They have to come to terms with the fact that they backed an idiot-world jackass as the President of the US. @Johnny Sack has to face he is a chump. @Anastasis has to ignore, once again, why he cast his lot with banal evil. @fattyflattie has to remind himself that he will accept enormous harm to others so long as he has another boat at which to throw money. Soon enough, the rationalizations will assuage their consciences. But it’s rough for these folks, now.
 

Not one of the above posters, but another prolific right winger from this site called me from a bar one night, feigned a conversation, and then begged me to call the bar and give them my credit card number to cover his bar tab because he knew his credit card was over the limit and was going to be declined.

I declined, of course.  Sad.

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51 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

they embarrassing quality of these things is surprising.  they expect to make millions off this and they can't even get a decent photoshop.  they just scour the web for generic costumes.  the trump head isn't ever positioned in a realistic way on the body.  they don't do blockchain.  it all feels like picking up plastic crap in chinatown.

When you get your NFTs from Wish.

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Plus I'm pretty sure giving my credit card number to some MAGA dipshit is B1 on the bingo card.  See "click here to opt-out of recurring donations" in tiny fine print as the GOP fundraising bingo square.

Come to mention it, I would be amazed if this NFT scam didn't have recurring purchases as the default setting at checkout.

The O/U on how many twits buy one just to watch the technology trainwreck?

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1 hour ago, gyroprotagonist said:

Typically, this is how NFTs work during a mint.  It's supposed to randomly generated and there is a baked in/manufactured  'scarcity' on how the traits are generated.  So kindof like a lottery and only a few get the 'rare' ones.  Rare traits can generally be sold on the secondary market for higher prices.

I’m not really all that familiar with them. I had heard what they are but the first specific NFT I heard about being offered for sale was from Melania Trump and it was a digital painting of her eyes. They held an auction where the winning bidder got one of her hats, an actual painting of her, and the NFT. It appeared as though either she or whoever set up her NFT was the winning bidder. But there wasn’t a random chance to the NFT you’d get. It was just that one thing.

https://fortune.com/2022/02/16/melania-trump-nft-auction

But if they’re selecting NFT’s at random when you place an order and creating planned scarcity then it’s not really a sale, it’s a lottery. Hell, even trading cards don’t do that anymore. If you want to collect baseball cards, nowadays you can just go out and buy a complete set. (Or at least you could the last time I visited a store that sells those things. And they weren’t cheap.) I wouldn’t buy an NFT in the first place. But if they’re all just a grab bag then it’s even dumber than I thought. 

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